Would any woman as VP satisfy the strong Hillary supporters who feel the race was sexist?

[WA98070]

[Oregone]

1. No. Theyll say its a mysoginistic pandering to the females who are marginalized as merely votes...

he is trying to win.


Anything but Hillary is sexist (despite not wanting Hillary is an urge that has no sexist foundation). I wouldn't personally want anyone who campaigned like that.

[papau]

21. True - every Hillary supporter I've observed would see it as an insult if woman wasn't Hillary

[Fredda Weinberg]

2. Nope. We don't need affirmative action. My gender had the stronger

candidate this time ... next time we'll play by Chicago rules.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

5. The "Chicago rules" of strategy and not blowing all your money?

[Fredda Weinberg]

8. I'm delighted w/what I contributed so far and will no doubt add more

I started a decade ago ... in fact, I'm personally hoping to see Governor Clinton soon.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

10. Maybe you can give her your resume.

[Fredda Weinberg]

36. I wouldn't swap my career for a political job for anything ... had the chance

many times - if you knew DU history you'd understand.

But the Big Dog's office is in Harlem and I will be back @ the 70th Precinct as soon as this financing is finished. Sorry they have to wait, but the campaign kept 'em busy.

My partner snuck into a Clinton Foundation function - talking about microloans and such. You know ... important stuff. So, enjoy silly season. I'm having a great work day, as usual.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

42. Like your race riot-fearing self would be anywhere near Harlem.

:rofl:

[Fredda Weinberg]

43. That's silly ... I worked for years in a former crack house, teaching local

kids. The cops weren't always there. The day the stabbing victim dropped by ... I mean literally ... I showed no fear. I had 50 kids depending on me!

Laugh your ass off dear. I made the evening news, so your portrait is your impression. Sorry you're so shallow, but I got past my problems in my adolescence. Need help?

[Starbucks Anarchist]

44. David Berkowitz made the evening news, too.

And don't lie about your many posts fearing race riots. I could easily pull them up right now.

[Fredda Weinberg]

45. Lie about what? Hate crimes are up and Crown Heights is again seeing

demonstrations by Orthodox Jews. Shit, man ... you need to remind me that Berkowitz was adopted by a Jewish couple?

You've got real problems, dude. Berkowitz was killing girls like me while I was out with my boyfriends. Good thing it ain't a button you can push anymore.

Heck, I even got over the little Black boy who tried to hurt me. Just like you ... he was filled with hate that had nothing to do with me.

Take your threats elsewhere - you got nothin' on me. I'll be fine here in Brooklyn ... better than my father who survived Hitler.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

46. Black boy?

I hope he's an actual child, because otherwise, that is a horrible thing to say.

And what threats? I swear to God, you have the biggest martyr complex I've ever seen. Not everything is about you.

[Fredda Weinberg]

47. An actual child with an actual shoe to my actual head in '68

But MLK was dead, so all my mother could do was weep. I was quite calm, despite the pain. Thing is, I didn't need a doctor ... the subdural hematoma resolved w/o blood clots.

Horrible? I was 8 ... dealt with it much later when I understood history.

Go find all the posts you want. I'm not afraid ... my father was a victim, not me. I lived through a riot, yes ... but it wasn't about Jews, this time. We just stood in for ... wait for it ... Whitey.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

48. Ah, Shoegate.

:eyes:

[Fredda Weinberg]

51. Tell you what ... let me send you PM. You'll see Chad Grover, who

grew up to be a handsome gentleman. Then you'll never wonder about me and Black kids again, OK?

[Starbucks Anarchist]

52. I don't want to see a PM from you.

And the fact that you worked with black kids doesn't cancel out your constant race-baiting/fear-mongering posts.

[Fredda Weinberg]

54. Then let everyone judge your reaction to a friendly gesture n/t

[Starbucks Anarchist]

57. No, I don't want a "friendly" gesture from a race-baiter.

[Fredda Weinberg]

58. As a first generation American who grew up w/ghosts of Holocaust victims

I find your reaction troubling. If I'm not angry and bitter ... what in Hades must have happened to you?

Or maybe I just had support systems to get past the trauma of reality - seems you're stuck somewhere dark and unfriendly. Never mind - I last saw Chad myself after my mother passed away ... he came to pay his respects.

What you think really isn't important ... as I noted, my work has been officially recognized. As for fear, well ... that would amuse anyone who knew me IRL.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

59. What does your family tragedy have to do with this?

I'm very sorry it happened, but you keep bringing it up in every one of your posts, regardless of the subject matter.

[Fredda Weinberg]

60. Well, I have these reliable stalkers, you see ... who bring up previous posts ...

then complain when I respond. Well, I don't put anyone on ignore, but this has taken too much of my time. Tata.

[hokies4ever]

25. She won't be able to cry her way to the governorship

:rofl:

[Fredda Weinberg]

38. Better than someone who got the job 'cause his daddy handed out

patronage jobs. The current governor is known for being a "sugar daddy", which I find personally revolting. YMMV, but you've probably never been hit upon by a machine operative @ 15. Sucks, man.

Cry? Not me. Told the precinct captain what he could do with his offer and now I'm a CTO. HRC is senator of my state and if we need her, our next governor.

Not bad for a world that, in general, sucks.

[democrattotheend]

30. I don't think she's interested in being governor

I thought Governor of NY might be a good role for her but I read that she is not that interested in the political scene in Albany. DC is her town and this is where she is established and has potentially more power to get things done. I like the idea of Senate Majority Leader, as long as she and President Obama could get along well enough to get things done.

[Fredda Weinberg]

37. It would be my personal preference, that's all. She's responded to

our call before, so if the need arises - I know she'll do the right thing again.

[democrattotheend]

53. Well, if she did decide to run for governor I'd be happy about it

I don't live in NY so I can't vote for her, but I think she would do a great job in that role. Maybe I'd even send a donation.

[Fredda Weinberg]

55. Hurray for our side! n/t

[Yes We Did]

9. Apparantly not... or she'd be the nominee.

[Fredda Weinberg]

41. That's not the way life works for women. We've accepted so far, but this

campaign is about us kickin' back. Burning bras? This is more substantial but just as futile. After all, some women need support.

[snooper2]

3. Your not going to get them to respond to this...

too hard to wrap their minds around right now...

[paulk]

6. another ray of sunshine

from the folks at hope, change, and unity (TM)

[JVS]

4. No. They're hopelessly bitter.

[polichick]

7. I've heard several talking heads suggest they'd be insulted.

[WA98070]

29. Wouldn't these same people be insulted by a VP offer?

[George_Bonanza]

11. Hillarists are not really feminists

They only look out for their own.

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[uberblonde]

17. Well, aren't you sweet!

You're probably unaware that women aren't interchangable, like car parts. Of course you didn't know that, a young thing like yourself. After all, you've probably never seen a naked woman.

And if you don't grow up soon, you probably never will.

[Independent-Voter]

20. Hardly young, but thanks! Watch this clip and let me know what you think about Hillary's base

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KACQuZVAE3s


Typical HRC fan.

[Marrah_G]

12. The media is sexist- they will continue to be no matter who the nominee is

For me it would have to be a woman who inspired confidence. I wouldn't vote for someone just because of Gender or color or religion, etc etc

However, I would be thrilled at the opportunity to vote for a woman I had confidence in.

[helderheid]

15. I sure appreciate this response.

:hi:

[hokies4ever]

27. What about Kathleen Sebelius as V.P.?

The biggest knocks on her are that she's a little too pro-choice and that some Hillary supporters may not want to see another woman offered a V.P. position. She's my favorite to be V.P. right now. The biggest question is how angry some Hillary supporters are, and would they throw Sebelius under the bus because of that anger.

[WA98070]

32. I am a white progressive male and recognize that I'm NOT a minority but my wife....

and daughter (25 year old law student and die hard dem since Dukakus) are Native American.

Neither of them has seen the sexist or racist media.... Sensational-definitely. When someone from either campaign made something the MEDIA could run with they did as SENSATIONAL if it happened to play into sexism or racism they played that but for the sensationalistic reasons. Just like rehashing Bill's infidelity whenever possible.

The odd thing is when Repubs say the same thing the response is "So?"

[burythehatchet]

16. Raise your hand if you give a flying crap about satisfying Hillary's athletic supporters

Nobody OWES them ANYTHING.

[papau]

22. burythehatchet - take your 50% of the party and run with it - with my blessing and love

[hokies4ever]

28. Bitter are we? The Hillary smackdown is almost complete.

Brace yourself for the superdelegate flood! :rofl:

[CaptJasHook]

35. And what is with his name? I thought burying the hatchet meant calling a truse.

[Umbram]

49. So, every person who voted for Clinton is as insane as the worst of her supporters? Wow. (nt)

[Eurobabe]

18. I highly doubt it. It's personal now.

[MyNameGoesHere]

19. If Obama picks a woman other than HRC

it is going to be harder than it already is to vote for him. I hope he has a little bit of decency and thinks on this first. To have HRC come so close and then give a VP spot to a woman that did not put herself o the chopping block as HRC did? Yukk a bad taste indeed.

[Adelante]

23. Nope - there is no woman but Hillary nt

[joshcryer]

24. If Obama were to pick anyone but Hillary he would alienate her base. This is a fact many here...

...simply don't get.

[LisaM]

26. Women aren't interchangeable.....

If Obama chose another woman as a sop to disaffected Hillary supporters, does he really think that we won't see through it?

[SoCalDem]

31. Janet Napolitano.. She's actually qualified ON HER OWN

and if the Hillary-minions REALLY want a woman president, Janet at 58 after two-terms as veep, COULD be the ONE..

and would DESERVE it..

and with Janet, we might snake Arizona away from Mccain in November :evilgrin:

[lojasmo]

33. If so, then they are sexist. EOM

[stillcool]

34. No. For the most part...

I think the gender card has been a fabricated wedge issue used as a campaign strategy, and an excuse for those who will not vote for Obama for other reasons.

[eissa]

39. I don't think anything will satisfy them right now

and I would personally not support it, and yes, I'm a woman. I voted for the best candidate -- I didn't base that vote on race or gender. I expect that candidate to do the same. I can't see how someone who has been championing change could settle for someone who doesn't share his vision.

[Beacool]

40. NOOOOOOO!!!!

[Lilith Velkor]

50. They're not supporting "any vagina will do," they are supporting a specific woman

Your premise is sexist. Fail.

[ORDem]

56. Hmmmm, what do you mean by "satisfy"? ;^)