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Yes We Did Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 12:28 PM
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Don't Blame Hillary... It's REALLY not her fault.
I really can't blame Hillary for dragging this thing out, even though she has had path to victory since... well... Texas. As I said in past entries, this has been driven by the media.

They went back and forth doing anything to keep this thing going. And for what? Money.

Plain. And. Simple.

Now that it's over, I am curious as to how they are going to cover the general election. Only time will tell, but I'd bet my last dollar (and that's all any of us have thanks to Dubya) that they do the same shit all the way until November.


Cable networks thrived on lengthy primary campaign

NEW YORK (Hollywood Reporter) - If the long Democratic nominating process does in fact end this week, one couldn't have asked for an odder weekend of coverage to top off what has been a surprising six-month run.

"You're asking for a fair reflection of a flawed primary," Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., told Clinton advocate Harold Ickes on Saturday afternoon. Not exactly Ronald Reagan's "I am paying for this microphone, Mr. Green!" in the annals of political history.

"It's been an amazing ride that we never thought would happen, these primary nights," says David Bohrman, CNN's Washington bureau chief. "We've done 16, 17, 18 primary nights, which is probably 15 more than we thought we'd do if you had asked me a year ago. But it's been great drama, and I think we've done really well at it."

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUKN0331031020080603?virtualBrandChannel=10112
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 12:29 PM
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1. She took a leadership role with the DLC. It IS her fault.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 12:37 PM
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4. the DLC proposals are evil while O's proposing ideas that in private he says he won't do is OK?
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 12:42 PM
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6. You betcha. I know that Obama has DLC advisors, too.
The DLC leadership must be destroyed from the top down.
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 12:32 PM
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2. It's now the media's fault that Hillary used Bush/Rove tactics to try...
to steal the primary? The media forced her to insult OBama supporters and African-American voters? To pander to bigots? To lie about being under sniper fire? To use Bush/Rove pig-slop politics?

That is patently absurd.

The Clintons have treated this campaign like their own private outhouse, and it is now time for them to reap what they have sown.
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Yes We Did Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 12:36 PM
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3. It's the media's fault for giving her voice for so long.
That is all I'm saying.
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 01:10 PM
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9. No, it's not. It is Hillary that kept making news. Her campaign WHINES...
if the press ignores her. In fact, a study showed that overall press coverage of Obama and Clinton campaigns had been largely positive, until Hillary's campaign started whining that they were picking on her, at which point the coverage of Obama turned more negative.

The press sensationalizes stuff, but they don't make it up from nothing. The Hillary campaign has acted in an astoundingly bad way, and you can't blame the press for covering it.
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Beregond2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 12:39 PM
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5. Oh, please.
No one made Hillary's decisions but Hillary, as I am sure she would be the first to say. She strikes me as having a lot more pride than her husband, who is always willing to blame anyone but himself.
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 01:05 PM
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7. Bullshit
The Clintons never accept responsibility for their actions. They never accept blame or fault. It's always triangulation and spin.

It IS her fault. She has whipped her lunatic fringe up into a frenzy and it is her responsibility to talk them down off the ledge. She has lost the primary campaign and refuses to concede, or suspend. She continues to push illogical arguments about "popular vote". She continues to try to take pledged and unpledged delegates from Obama.

She is a fucking nightmare. Her only hope of salvaging anything of her once respected reputation is to suspend her campaign and work her ass off to see that Obama receives the support of all Democrats.

Will she do the decent thing? Unlikely. But that's no surprise...
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WillyToad Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 01:11 PM
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10. Your hate is duly noted...
The big question is, will Obama supporters like this be able to turn off the hate when he is officially the nominee?

Spittle almost flew out of my monitor from your post.

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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 01:36 PM
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13. Once it's over, it's over.
When she concedes, you will not see me say one more negative thing about her because she will be IRRELEVANT to me and anyone else with any sense.
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WillyToad Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 01:06 PM
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8. Democracy isn't a corronation...
...and if the shoe was on the other foot, we would be seeing the exact same thing, in reverse.
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Yes We Did Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 01:15 PM
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11. So that's the excuse? Wow.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 01:16 PM
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12. Has she conceded?
:shrug:
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