Chuck Todd is making a great point on MSNBC right now..

[tridim]

He's saying that Hillary is trying to make tonight all about her, when in fact it should be all about Obama, the first black nominee in American history. That is the story, not Hillary's loss.

As usual, he's 100% correct.

[Poll_Blind]

1. It's true. And it speaks to her overwhelming White Privledge Issues that she's doing it. n/t

PB

[papau]

4. It is all about "white" ever since Obama played the race card

[cliffordu]

7. Going, going.....

[Lerkfish]

9. cool! more self-destructive crash and burn!

:popcorn:

ooooh

aaaaah

[nadinbrzezinski]

16. Here, have a drink with that popcorn

I fear we will be doing quite a bit of popcorn washing to day

:toast:

[Lerkfish]

18. it would appear so!

I'm going to try to not throw gasoline on myself (I"m not perfect, though), but hey, if they're self-dousing, I"m getting out the marshmallows.

[nadinbrzezinski]

25. Now I should be checking the trauma kit

burn kit... to be specific

we will have to pick up the pieces...

What we are seeing is classic stages of grief

Some folks are still in the anger stage, a few in the bargaining... even less in the depression stage

Fortunately we have more folks who are truly in the acceptance stage

[MindMatter]

44. Why don't you have that poster on ignore already?

I don't know who it is, but they obviously can't contribute anything helpful here, and have no intention of doing so.

[Lerkfish]

48. I've got everyone off my ignore list for this last week.

[JackORoses]

14. enjoy your last hours here, pappy

[SoFlaJet]

29. it's time for all good democrats

to start alerting the mods on this type of divisive behavior

[grace0418]

41. Actually, I agree with you. It's not about race.

It's more about Hillary herself. What Hillary wants, consequences be damned.

[TheWraith]

19. Not "white privledge." Just massive, unfathomable ego.

She doesn't think she's better and more entitled because she's white. She thinks she's better and more entitled because she's HER.

It's a sad side of the Clintons to see, but some people get changed by exposure to power.

[Poll_Blind]

27. Based on her choice of words and her lack of distancing herself from very hurtful racist rhetoric...

...it's difficult for me to be completely convinced otherwise. However, the bulk and parcel of this is her ego. The White Privilege Issues are a subordinate part of that.

PB

[TheWraith]

36. I think that she's just kissing up to the racists, and hoping to convince SDs a black guy can't win.

I could be wrong, but that's my guess.

[loyalsister]

42. white privilege, DLC, etc etc.

She wants to magnanimously "give" it to him rather than allow for an appearance that he won.

IOW, she may want to maintain power by transforming the Jr. Senator's glory and "victory" into to a team win which would not have happened without her help.

"Freedom is never voluntarily given by the opressor. it must be demanded by the opressed."
- Martin Luther King Jr.

This election will have an interesting analysis considering history. The civil rights movement, and the women's movement had both causes in common. There were a number of northern white women abolitionists Black women and white women were working together for abolition. There was conflict during intellectual discussions about how to proceed politically, because there was fear that their suffrage movement would cause problems.

After the civil war, the first wave feminists\white women began to push for their rights. They did not challenge the ongoing institutional slavery or racism. The movement faltered and eventually gained steamed first wave feminism of the 20s was finally successful. They were only lukewarm to the inclusion of Black women in their cause.

"Freedom is never voluntarily given by the opressor. it must be demanded by the opressed."
- Martin Luther King Jr.

Women's studies scholars will have interesting discussions and analyses, as will Black studies scholars.

I think that full historical context without bias will be interesting as well.

[LaurenG]

2. How sad. She can't take it away from him and he'll be a perfect gentleman and

let her take the bows and bow out.

[MarjorieG]

13. It's more than numbers. Grace under pressure, temperament, leadership, tenacity.

Obama has shown it all...

[WeDidIt]

3. Yep, it shows the difference between the style of the candidates

and proves why the choice that was made was to put Obama in as the nominee.

[goclark]

30. This is but another example of why Primaries are important

I have followed politics since I was 21.

Can someone please name a campaign where the "experienced" candidate acted in this manner?

This Primary has demonstrated the way that staff is selected, budget,consideration of the voters, appropriate statements about the candidate of their OWN party etc. etc., etc. is handled.

Obama has handled all of the above with grace and dignity.

This is what we as Americans would be going through day after day after day with HC in the WH.

[AllentownJake]

5. Meh

The next 5 months than the next 8 years are all about Obama. She can have her bitter party tonight.

[Shakespeare]

6. Spot-on. I almost posted as much earlier.

I :loveya: Chuck Todd.

[VolcanoJen]

8. He's right! I was cheering him as he said it!

And Andrea Mitchell broke news at the top of the hour... that DOZENS of congressional superdelegates will endorse Obama in the NEXT FEW HOURS.

This night belongs to Barack Obama, the Democratic Party, and our great nation. We have much to be proud of tonight!!!!!!!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[crankychatter]

10. I heard that, he was dead on the money and frankly.... thinking about it now?

that really SUCKS ASS

I think I'm going to celebrate like she's not there... right here on DU

[progdog]

11. This is why she

can't be VP.

[JVS]

12. Actually that's a refreshing stop to Hill and Bill's constant attempts to hang a negro sign on him.

[Eurobabe]

15. Screw them.

GOBAMA!

[dionysus]

39. i like the obama smiley!

[berni_mccoy]

17. Chuck Todd has been spot-on this entire campaign. Good for him.

[WA98296]

20. Chuck Todd is a real asset to NBC, and the viewers.

[TwilightGardener]

21. Yep--that's why it's "Will I concede? Won't I? South Dakota is an important swing state!"

All about her, as usual.

[tishaLA]

22. I've been feeling that Obama has been campaigning with

one hand tied behind his back for the past month, when it became obvious he had this thing locked up specifically so she could have her time in the sun before he won the nomination. He could have campaigned in some of those states. closed the gaps, and earned more delegates than he did, but he chose instead to be gracious and look toward the general election instead.

This is the thanks he gets--

[Enrique]

23. how does he know what she's going to say?

[tridim]

26. History. nt

[RooferDem]

33. He was on just after a Clinton surrogate told Mitchell

that tonight was all about the incredible journey that Clinton took to get here.

[question everything]

24. Hatred and dismissal from MSNBC (and Newsweek and NBC). This is news? (nt)

[tridim]

28. Care to elaborate? How is what Todd said "hatred and dismissal"?

He's just stating the obvious, which is a rarity in the MSM.

[RooferDem]

31. Not quite, and I'm sorry you're angry.

Chuck Todd said that "the Obama camp" can't understand why tonight is all about Clinton. I frankly agree with them.

[City Lights]

34. I missed the "hatred and dismissal" part. Can you fill me in, please? nt

[Doityourself]

32. It's OBAMA TIME!!!!

[zulchzulu]

35. If HRC wants to make it all about her, that's fine...because...

...it's all about her... LOSING.

I wish I could just fast-forward to tomorrow.

The analysis that will follow on what happened to her cammpaign will certainly not paint her in a positive light. She can have the Orwellian glory to drop out tonight for all I care.

[pompano]

37. I'm popping....

popcorn because the best candidate we have to beat McSame in the fall gets the nod tonight. Race and gender are frankly immaterial to me.

I would have rooted for a green alien that are both male and female simultanously at the same time if they/he/she were the best candidate out there.

Hillary lost my nod with her lies and nasty campaign tactics. Obama won mine with his vision for America, and an uncanny ability to unite all Americans in a qwest to make a better future for our children, and their's. Either could have come wrapped in any color paper of of any gender. Couldn't matter less, to me.

Now, my friends, it on to McCain. We'll have our fun and celebration tonight. Then get busy on beating McCain. Time is not on our side.

[stray cat]

38. Chuck Todd is one of the few I respect and listen to

[AtomicKitten]

40. Obama's spectacular, ground-breaking campaign has been down-played to not hurt HRC's widdle feelings

Democrats are 29 delegates away from electing our first African-American nominee and we are stuck still kowtowing to the Queen of Appalachia.

[City Lights]

46. +1

:toast:

[AtomicKitten]

47. it's like taking a band-aid off ever so slowly

aaarrggghhhh!!!

:toast:

[busymom]

43. What is she doing specifically?

I'm just curious. What is she doing that will detract from his big win tonight? The media outlets are making a choice to cover this story like this and I'm sure that she is not at all thrilled with the "HRC to step down/not step down" during the middle of the final two primaries that is all over the new today.

She will get her speech covered and he will get his celebration covered. Anything else right now is just speculation about what the media is going to cover. Neither HRC nor BO have that much control over what will be played.

[FlaGranny]

45. I just wish Hillary

would stop jerking the chains of her supporters. She's making them crazy - not to mention the rest of us.

[BklynChick]

49. I refuse to focus on her... it's all about HIM tonight!

[dana_b]

55. it is, but we're all going to watch her speech tonight though, right?

Todd said the next 48 hours are Hillary's and then the rest of the election season is Obama's.

[TexasObserver]

50. That's the problem with Miss Thang. She thinks it is all about her.

[Onlooker]

51. It's a ridiculous and stupid point

Concession usually precedes declaration of victory. Haven't any of you ever watched an election?

It's Clinton's place to offer some sort of concession before Obama declares some sort of victory. He already indicated he would respect Clinton's decision to continue the campaign, so that implies he won't declare victory until Clinton has a chance to concede.

[tridim]

52. Well, you completely missed his point then.

I've watched every election since 1988 and the Primaries have never come down to the last day with one candidate going over the top on that day. This is uncharted territory from here on out.

When Obama wins tonight he will say so, regardless if Hillary concedes or not.

[Onlooker]

54. Obama cannot win tonight

He can be the presumptive nominee and that position will be significantly strengthened if Clinton makes some sort of concession. Otherwise, those who support Clinton will point out various counts that show Obama may not yet have enough superdelegates, Clinton's option of appealing the rules committee decision, and the fact that superdelegates can change their minds. By making some sort of concession, Clinton paves the way for Obama to declare some sort of victory. But, his victory will not come until the Convention, and it's for that reason that he will save his main victory speech for that event. I wonder if Clinton and Obama will appear together in the next day or two. I think so.

[high density]

53. We'll see if she finally figures out that she has lost

She could've ended this weeks or months ago.