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Tue Jun-03-08 01:41 PM
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I continue to wait for Clinton to reject and denounce Harriet Christian's racist remarks |
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I continue to wait, and I can wait a long time.
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Tue Jun-03-08 01:42 PM
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1. forget about it. she's not about to start appologizing for anything |
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and we should only have to suffer for a few more hours
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Tue Jun-03-08 01:43 PM
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2. When has she REALLY apologized for ANYTHING? |
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She won't even properly apologize for her OWN remarks, why would she apologize for any of her supporters?
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Tue Jun-03-08 01:44 PM
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3. I didn't find the comment racist at all. It's what you don't want to hear n/t |
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Tue Jun-03-08 01:45 PM
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An "inadequete black man"? |
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Tue Jun-03-08 01:46 PM
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6. Is it racist to point out the Barak is black? |
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Because I'm almost certain he knows that by now.
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Tue Jun-03-08 01:48 PM
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11. what relevance does it have to the point. |
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Edited on Tue Jun-03-08 01:49 PM by onenote
He's also a Christian, a six footer, right handed (?)...why weren't those included in the description?
You can't wiggle out of this.
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Tue Jun-03-08 01:58 PM
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19. Actually, I think he's a lefty. |
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Tue Jun-03-08 01:59 PM
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21. In fact, I AM a lefty... |
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Politically and otherwise
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Tue Jun-03-08 01:48 PM
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12. How about we say "inadequate person with a vagina"? |
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Seriously, if you don't see a problem with the way this was worded, then I weep for the future.
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Tue Jun-03-08 02:06 PM
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Pointing out the obvious isn't racist. Saying that he's "inadequate" is insulting (how many delegates has Harriett won?) but screaming racism at anybody you disagree with dilutes the inherent evil in REAL racism.
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Tue Jun-03-08 02:11 PM
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27. Then answer my question |
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Would it be ok to refer to Hillary as an "inadequate person with a vagina"? Word placement and structure is key to getting the meaning of those highly charged words. As a white person, I am outraged by the words "inadequate black man".
Sorry your candidate lost and ran a pathetic campaign. Doubly sorry that it brought out the worst in people.
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Tue Jun-03-08 02:19 PM
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29. I'm an Obama supporter... |
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And I too am sorry that this campaign has brought out the worst in people.
For example, the need to pick at the scab just to make it bleed just a little bit longer. Let it go.
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Tue Jun-03-08 02:23 PM
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31. Pick at the scab? Your analogy is flawed |
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This just happened - I'm not dragging something out of the closet that happened months ago.
I'm not willing to give a pass to overtly racist comments of people that represent Hillary's campaign.
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Tue Jun-03-08 02:25 PM
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She doesn't "represent" Hillary's campaign any more than I represent Obama's camppaign. She's a loud-mouth, pissed-off supporter and what she said is not a reflection on Hillary or anybody else -- except perhaps some poor upbringing on the part of her parents.
We won. Let it go.
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Tue Jun-03-08 02:17 PM
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28. Why defend the racist comment the woman said? |
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She emphasized "inadequate black male" to further the same notion that Geraldine Ferraro and other Clinton supporters have perpetuated-- that Obama wouldn't be winning if he were not black.
She herself tried to qualify her racist comment and assuage her (likely) resulting guilt by saying something to the effect of "There, I said it!" as if she new damned well it was the wrong thing to say (or think, even).
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Tue Jun-03-08 02:21 PM
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Do you expect Hillary and Obama to jump in front of a camera every time a supporter says some damned fool thing? For Chrissakes, just based on what's been posted on DU alone, neither one of them would have had time to conduct their campaigns. They'd be apologizing and denouncing every fucking minute of the day.
Grow a thicker hide.
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Tue Jun-03-08 02:34 PM
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38. I never said that I thought Hillary should respond or be responsible for this woman |
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I am only responding to your defense of the woman's racist comment, or denial that her comment was racist.
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Tue Jun-03-08 02:36 PM
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I see Hillary supporters haven't corner the market on faux outrage...
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Tue Jun-03-08 02:31 PM
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36. It's silly season ... that's all folks! n/t |
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Tue Jun-03-08 01:46 PM
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7. Replace the word 'black' for 'Jewish' and then get back to us. n/t |
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Tue Jun-03-08 01:49 PM
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14. No problem. Have a great day. n/t |
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Tue Jun-03-08 02:25 PM
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Tue Jun-03-08 02:41 PM
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40. I get the feeling you are not being honest with me |
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Tue Jun-03-08 02:24 PM
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33. ROFL! CLASSIC Fredda! |
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Tue Jun-03-08 06:11 PM
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Tue Jun-03-08 01:45 PM
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4. Is there ever going to be a comment on Obama's lack of experience that isn't racist? |
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Tue Jun-03-08 01:47 PM
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8. does his being black make him inexperienced? |
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If not, what relevance would it have to the characterization?
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Tue Jun-03-08 02:28 PM
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35. No, it makes him "inadequate". Inexperienced is code. |
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Harriet let the mask slip. Many here will do the same in the coming week.
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Tue Jun-03-08 01:45 PM
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5. If the tables were turned, and this had been an Obama supporter |
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saying something equally rash and racist, I have the strong feeling that M$M and the Clinton Camp would be calling on Obama to reject and denounce it.
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Tue Jun-03-08 01:47 PM
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Edited on Tue Jun-03-08 01:48 PM by dems_rightnow
Should she be expected to apologize for the comments of a loon that had no relation to the campaign, and that she'd never even heard of before? It's asking a bit much to ask her to be responsible for everyone on earth.
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Tue Jun-03-08 01:50 PM
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15. Just like Obama shouldn't have been responsible for father Pflegger's comments |
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Tue Jun-03-08 01:50 PM
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16. Well for starters Obama apologizing for Father Pfleger remarks |
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that he had nothing to do with.
Clinton's connection to this batshit woman was a lot closer than Obama's connection to Pfleger.
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Tue Jun-03-08 01:47 PM
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10. Don't hold your breath |
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You can't wait that long.
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Tue Jun-03-08 01:49 PM
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13. Has Hillary ever done anything to acknowledge any type of connection with this woman? |
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Tue Jun-03-08 01:50 PM
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17. HC (Harriet Christian) for VP! |
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Tue Jun-03-08 01:59 PM
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Tue Jun-03-08 01:58 PM
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18. Before or after Obama denounces his pastors racist and sexist remarks? |
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Everybody is in a hurry to wait.
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Tue Jun-03-08 02:06 PM
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24. pfleger isn't his pastor. n/t |
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Tue Jun-03-08 02:09 PM
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26. And being the bigger person he has already done this |
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He wasn't my pastor and I wouldn't have done it but it shows that he's a bigger person than me.
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Tue Jun-03-08 02:45 PM
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41. He already called Hillary personally and apologized |
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Tue Jun-03-08 02:33 PM
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37. I would say Phleger ridiculed HRC. Was it racist? White privilege? |
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Now the crying jag was over the top theater...
But talking about white privilege is racist?
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Tue Jun-03-08 02:03 PM
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23. If an Obama supporter had said |
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that they felt there was no way an "inadequate woman" should be elected, the Clinton camp would have been shitting bricks.
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Tue Jun-03-08 02:23 PM
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32. And I continue to wait for her big speech |
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on women's rights, women's issues and.... sexism! And maybe an endorsement of the ERA even.
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