Thom Hartmann just said..

[butterfly77]

that some superdelegate senators are saying they will endorse Obama if he makes a deal to put Hillary on the ticket as VP..

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

1. Thom has been flogging that pony for weeks...

I don't buy it.

[Ichingcarpenter]

12. Every single Day he leaves about 5 mins. to say the same thing for weeks

I love Thom but he has beaten that horse to death.

[NightWatcher]

2. he's been pushing Hillary as VP for a while now

no deals Obama

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

27. those super delegates must be first to sign up as "Food Tasters for Obama"

I don't think they would be willing to do that.

[Poll_Blind]

3. Full O Poop. n/t

PB

[TwilightGardener]

TH is full of shit.

[olkaz]

13. That's a bit strong.

Thom's drawn out pimping of the dream ticket has gotten nauseating at times, but for the most part, he is a strong, intelligent progressive voice, and deserves respect.

Wait, do you even listen to him?

[shraby]

4. If Obama keeps getting endorsements today

they will become moot.

[gateley]

5. Fine - let them endorse Hillary.

I'm guessing the number won't make a difference to Obama's clinching.

[Thrill]

6. This is the problem I have. No one tried to make Kerry or Gore choose anyone

Why is Obama being treated differently

[butterfly77]

24. Exactly..

[LisaM]

34. Actually, I'm not sure that's true. My memory from 2004 is that

Kerry wanted Gephardt, and that he WAS pressured to take Edwards, that he wasn't his first choice.

This article confirms that somewhat: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1626498,00.html, though it doesn't go as far as what I remember, which was that Kerry really, really wanted Gephardt.

(edited for typos)

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

37. Because Harriet says that he's an inadequate black man who apparently can't win

without the little ole white lady! It's so appalling!

[TornadoTN]

7. Thom pushing his own agenda

It might happen and it might be true, but its very tough for me to put much merit to it because he's been on this kick since Obama started looking like he was going to be the nominee back in February.

[butterfly77]

26. I've been listening ...

and the msnbc,and cnn have been pushing it for days now..

[TornadoTN]

28. Yes, they have - but Thoms been on that train since February

He's just a little more passionate about it than everyone else and his reasoning is a little flat.

[Faygo Kid]

8. Too late. That dog won't hunt.

No deals.

[Skwmom]

9. Nothing like blackmail.

[newmajority]

10. Ken Salazar (DLC - Colorado) is the one pushing this

Another desperate grabbing at straws from the corporatist wing of the party.

[TornadoTN]

16. Like launching a lifeboat from the Titanic

Their just trying to save what they can to keep their dream alive in some form.

[rocktivity]

29. When a pair of financially strapped, not well-regarded ad agencies announced they were merging

The line went around, "That's like the Hindenburg merging with the Titantic."

:rofl:
rocknation

[butterfly77]

11. I want to know who..

these senators are..

[Lucky 13]

14. They are going to have to get used to disappointment.

[thoughtcrime1984]

15. Well, then they can endorse Hillary, if that's true

Why in the hell should our near-nominee be pushed by a few people to make a decision that should be his own. Ridiculous, if true. If he wants her, fine, but the more pressure he gets over this, the less likely he will be to put her on the ticket. Why would he want to appear willing to kowtow to pressure?

[VolcanoJen]

17. I think the freight train of supers today is gonna push Obama over the magic number...

... even without the holdouts. :-)

[Shakespeare]

18. Hartmann REALLY needs to un-fixate about that.

It's NOT going to happen.

[NightWatcher]

19. Obama doesnt need THAT many supers. NO DEAL

[babylonsister]

20. I read that this a.m., and Salazar is trying to spearhead it. I truly

hope he doesn't get his wish. Here's the link:

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/06/senators_failed_to_reach_endor.php

[butterfly77]

30. Salazar needs to shut up..

I have been watching him before and after he won for the first time and he votes with republicons a lot.

[redqueen]

42. No surprise, cause DLCers are Republican Lite infiltrators.

I'm done sugar coating this crap.

[redqueen]

41. Fuckin DLC.

DIE, DLC! DIE!

[TornadoTN]

21. Anyone listening to this Hillary partisan on the line?!?!

She won't answer the direct question about the Supreme Court should McCain win the election if she conducts her Hillary write in campaign.

Unreal.

[DainBramaged]

22. I call bullshit

No way, after how she has run her campaign, Obama might as well select Ronald McDonald as his VP, at least he wouldn't say anything bad about anyone.

[MindMatter]

23. Fortunately for all of us, that isn't necessary

Obama will have 150 delegates to spare.

[rocktivity]

25. Some, perhaps

but very likely not enough.

:headbang:
rocknation

[Stop Cornyn]

31. Not enough of them to matter. He'ill clinch the nomination with or without their endorsements

[seafan]

32. Thom Hartmann is badly misguided on his stance of a so-called 'unity' ticket.

Here is what he referred to... apparently Senator Ken Salazar was in a private meeting with a handful of uncommitted Senate superdelegates, and they were kicking around withholding an endorsement for Obama unless Hillary was on also the ticket.


Now THIS is appeasement. And it's also cowardice by certain Senators.



C'mon, Thom. Get with the program. There's been too much water under this bridge.

[crankychatter]

33. I don't think he needs them or her - mho - nt

.

[bdamomma]

35. isn't that blackmail, that they will endorse Obama

only if Hillary is named the VP. Only in the USA.:shrug:

[WA98296]

36. If that happens Obama better be ready to lose his own supporters.

[butterfly77]

39. That is what I have been thinking ...

the media wants us to believe that Hillary supporters are the only ones who are angry. Obama supporters have tried to be nice to a certain extent but,I refuse to say I will support this woman...I will only watch and wait for her bill,and her minions to start the sabatoge.

[KoKo]

43. Are you saying Obama Supporters would vote for McCain rather than have Hillary on Ticket?

Wow...where have I heard that strategy before. :eyes:

[dana_b]

38. I respect TH but ultimately it's Obama's decision.

I don't think he'll be bribed like that.

[redqueen]

40. Suuuuuuuuure they are.

:eyes:

[AspenRose]

44. Screw that noise....

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