If Hillary had given Bill a script, she wins. Am I right or wrong?

[DB1]

Without Bill's mess ups maybe they keep Kennedy's and Richardson's support.

[my2sense]

1. She would have had a much better shot.

I started off on her team.....

[jenmito]

2. Wrong. Hillary ran a pretty bad campaign all by herself. She changed her persona too many

times and got caught changing positions, lying, and not being able to admit mistakes.

[rurallib]

4. pretty much my thought.

Actually I don't think Bill inflicted nearly as much damage as Hill did herself.

[jenmito]

8. Yup.

:hi:

[pdxmom]

3. I think she started out behind with a lot of people because of her

vote on the IWR. I think she'd have done much better if she'd totally disavowed herself of that vote.

[underpants]

5. I don't think Bill wanted another President in the house

Just saying

[Jersey Devil]

6. Problem was not confined to Bill - add Bill's friends

Just how exactly do you pull off calling yourself a candidate of "change" with the likes of the all time parsing club of Lanny Davis, McAuliffe, Ickes and Carville on your team?

She needed fresh, new faces like Debbie Wasserman-Schultz as spokespeople, not old hacks from Bill's administration.

[jgraz]

7. She should have hired Obama to run her campaign

Too bad he was otherwise engaged.

[billyoc]

9. Night Of The Living Bad Accents

is what did her in, her old man could have run naked down Broadway and it wouldn't have damaged her campaign as badly as that bullshit.


*edit* Oh, I see he DID run naked down Broadway, my bad. :rofl:

[VolcanoJen]

10. It was, and will always be, her IWR vote, and her "establishment" candidacy in a year of change.

Maybe if she would've keyed into that, signaled regret for the IWR vote, and reinvented herself. But for what it's worth, I just don't think it was her year.

[Lerkfish]

11. there were a lot more problems with her campaign than just bill

[union_maid]

12. Very possibly

If she'd just gotten him to leave the country it would have helped. Not hiring Mark Penn would have made a world of difference, too.

[JerseygirlCT]

13. Sure wouldn't have hurt

But I think her campaign was just badly run, period. And there are a good number of other people involved with loose lips. Including sometimes, the candidate herself.

[BklynChick]

14. he hurt but he also helped her with reminding everyone she was married to him (some of the WV and KY

voters still love Bill). That said, her campaign, her message, her staff, are all her responsibility and her fault if they failed.

[whatchamacallit]

15. Wrong, most of us simply feel Obama is a better candidate.

[DB1]

16. Me too, I was wondering if it was closer than it seemed to me.

[loyalsister]

17. It's always multiple variables

But, I think he was a pretty major liability.
I think he has that potential if she were VP, as well.
There is no way to predict what he may do. And, I am not convinced that he could be or even should be "muzzled" or scripted without volunteering for it. He's a grown up. He should be trusted. Hillary and everyone else should be able to trust him to not behave as if he has no sense of what is appropriate or reasonable.

[damntexdem]

18. Wrong. Obama would still have won.

And, anyway, Slick Willy wouldn't have stuck to the script.

[EFerrari]

19. Well, he didn't help but her campaign managers were horrible.

We can't blame Bill for their stupid @ssed decisions and behavior.

[theboss]

20. She still would have been out of money after Super Tuesday

Hillary did not lose because of what Bill said in SC.

She lost because Obama won 12 straight contests after Super Tuesday.

If she wins, like, three of those....she is probably the nominee right now.

[Radical Activist]

21. The idea that all she needed to win was the right message or spin is why she lost.

People want someone with conviction who stands by what they believe in, not someone who has the latest tired poll-tested line.