Clinton campaign seems to be issuing veiled threats pushing her to be VP...

[ExPatLeftist]

After it came out a few minutes ago that she had said that she is open to being VP, I have seen and heard clips of Terry McAuliffe and 2 other Clinton campaign reps mentioning the dissatisfaction of some Clinton supporters with the Obama campaign and the process and that, according to one rep, not making her the VP candidate would be "at <Obama's> own peril". Talking about the likelihood of some Clinton supporters defecting, and then saying that the best way to avoid that scenario would be to name her as the running mate.

On this historical day, continued gaming, threats (even subtle ones), and attempted limelight thievery are, IMO, not only disgusting but also show how out of touch she is with anyone outside of her own. She obviously has an inability to see the bigger picture of the significance of Obama's nomination as she instead chooses to keep the pressure and division going, rather than backing off for even a minute to allow for some unity to manifest.

The division must stop - Hillary, please allow the nominee his one night as the victor before you continue the threats and demands.

[C_U_L8R]

1. That's reason enough to tell em to take a hike.

They offer nothing so give them nothing.

[loves_dulcinea]

15. touche'

[roguevalley]

26. I doubt they could survive the vetting process. Bill would have to

open up all his records including the donors to the library and she would also. they couldn't survive that so they are history as vp IMHO.

www.americablog.com has a story:

The vetting process entails a rigorous schedule of interviews focusing on everything from politics to potential embarrassments -- Did they ever employ a nanny on whose behalf they did not pay Social Security taxes, for example; did they experiment with drugs or people in college? -- and potential candidates are required to give the search team access to their tax returns and other financial records. This sounds pretty rigorous -- and the potential V.P. nominees have to comply.

Hillary always claims she's fully vetted, but that's not true. And, the vetting process includes the spouse.

Basically, this means Obama's vetting team would have access to all the Clinton's records -- all the stuff that hasn't become public. The Clintons would have to open up the library funders and foundation donors. They'd have to name everyone who has paid Bill Clinton to speak or do any other work. They'd investigate all of Bill's dealings with Ron Burkle, for example. And, for sure, they'd have to investigate a lot of other rumors that swirl about.

The Clintons can keep their own secrets when they run the show. But, this won't be their show. They won't have Howard Wolfson and his team stonewalling reporters who are asking prying questions.

If the Clintons want the V.P. job, they can't say no to any question asked. And, it's pretty clear that Jim Johnson knows what questions to ask. That seems like a risky proposition for the Clintons. Sure would be fun to be a fly on the wall during those interviews.

this guy is doing the vetting:

Johnson, a former CEO of Fannie Mae who is currently vice chairman of Perseus LLC, a merchant bank, also vetted vice presidential candidates for Walter Mondale, whose campaign he chaired. On the eve of the convention in 1984, Mr. Mondale was set to choose Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California, only to find irreconcilable political problems with the business dealings of Ms. Feinstein's husband, Richard Blum. Mondale chose Geraldine Ferraro instead. Ironically, questions about Ferraro's husband, a real estate developer, would dog her throughout the general election campaign. Mr. Johnson said later that the experience if 1984 had taught him to start much earlier and vet much more thoroughly.

[Skwmom]

2. And the GOP will say if Obama can't stand up to the Clintons, how can he stand up to the terrorists?

By her doing this, he'll probably have to make his VP pick BEFORE McCain. He should pick Schweitzer. That would be such an exciting ticket, and that VP pick would favorably define Obama to the American Public by reinforcing all of Obama's strengths.

I was so excited about celebrating tonight. Now she has to pull this crap.

[gateley]

10. I'm all about Schweitzer! nt

[Skwmom]

32. It would be such a POWERFUL ticket. No matter who McCain picked, even if he picked Hucklebee

he would not be able to overcome the excitement of that ticket. I SO HOPE, someone is making this case to Obama.

Schweitzer would be able to hammer the Republicans while not acting like your typical politician.

This would define Obama as a true agent of change,not a typical politician and like Schweitzer very likable.

The GOP will not be able to attack Schweitzer as weak on national security, look at the man. Plus, if Obama were to tap a military man this feeds into the GOP meme that you need to have military experience like McCain to be strong on national security. JUDGMENT, which Obama and Schweitzer has in spades is what's needed. Plus Schweitzer will appeal to older women and rural voters.

Schweitzer on the campaign trail with his dog would gobble up the rural vote and reflect VERY FAVORABLY upon Obama. Schweitzer would be able to deflect any of the stupid attacks on Obama (about his patriotism, etc) as just plain stupid.

I'm from the Ohio, PA, WV area. Schweitzer will deliver those votes to Obama.

[gateley]

35. I think Schweitzer would attract votes across the board.

He may not have military experience, but he speaks the language fluently and UNDERSTANDS the culture. Obama has several very impressive military people he could gather round him.

I can't think of ONE SINGLE negative about Schweitzer -- except maybe he wouldn't want the job. EVERYTHING about him is positive and would be an incredible asset to our ticket and to Obama.

[nebula]

13. Hillary is a terrorist herself

trying to terrorize him into submission.

[WA98296]

3. She deserves to be shown the door, now attempting to bully her way on the ticket.

[TahitiNut]

4. She shot herself in the foot. Now she's holding her other foot hostage and making threats!

(It bears repeating.) :silly:

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

*

Truly :silly:

But I'm laughing.

[underpants]

25. Don't MAKE ME!!!!

:grr::mad:

[IsItJustMe]

5. Obama would be under constant extortion threats if he picked her.

[AspenRose]

9. Exactly

*nodding*

[AspenRose]

6. Well, as my dad used to say

"people in hell want ice water."

Come on, Obama....don't fall to the pressure.

[styersc]

7. When the United States Constitution was first penned the VP was

the candidate who came in second in the General Election.

It makes perfect sense that the second ranked candidate within a party, particularly one who lost by such a tiny margin (in an asterix year without Michigan and Florida) would be chosen to be the VP.

Obama/CLinton is a landslide ticket. If Obama is so arrogant and frightened by a strong woman that he cannot offer the spot to Clinton, then the hopes that he will have a successful administration is slim.

[ExPatLeftist]

11. He's not afraid of a strong woman: Michelle

It's not about "woman" or "man" it's about Hillary Clinton. And I think that picking her would be a mistake, particularly under threats.

There are other women on the potential Obama short list. It's not about her gender, it is about her.

[AspenRose]

12. He MARRIED a strong woman

So no he's not arrogant and frightened by strong women.

I look forward to seeing a woman as president someday. Just not HRC.

[Growler]

14. the more likely reason he won't offer the VP spot

is she brings nothing to the ticket besides unnecessary drama, and huge negatives.

If he picked Hillary he would show he is frightened. NOT picking her shows maturity and wisdom.

[gateley]

16. It might be a "landslide" ticket according to the Dems,

but the Reps will be mobilized to come out and vote AGAINST Hillary. Their dislike of her is well known and strong.

[Adelante]

29. I don't think it gets that far

The Clintons will have to be vetted. They won't want that. Obama's camp will insist.

This isn't happening, imo.

[gateley]

36. I pray you're right --

and if I calm down I agree.

I was just thinking -- after all these cliff hangers during the primaries "just two more weeks and she's done" x HOW many? Now we'll be wrecks until he announces his VP choice.

[gateley]

8. Threats? That's what this has come to? nt

[jsmirman]

17. Say NO to extortion. And tell Terry McCauliffe that he is terrible at everything he does

and that he can go fuck himself.

[cynatnite]

18. I'm starting to wonder how much of this is corporate media stoking the division...

It's in their interest that the Dems not win the WH.

[ExPatLeftist]

24. I have no doubt a lot of it is, but...

these were actual Clinton campaign reps making these particular statements, not just MSM talking head pundits. So obviously the Clinton campaign is doing their fair share of the stoking as well.

[cynatnite]

31. People make comments all the time that are just observations...

and not worthy of the attention. When they say 'campaign reps' I wonder if it's just some workers on the low end of the totem pole saying what they think.

Just seems like corporate media loves to emphasize the drama to such a degree that folks jump on it and it adds to the infighting.

[ExPatLeftist]

33. I agree in general, but McAuliffe was one of the reps. n/t

[Why Syzygy]

19. Those "supporters" are motived by hated for Obama. She won't change that by fucking up our ticket.

[loyalsister]

20. So-

She thinks she can be the VP that "gave" Obama the presidency?
I have a friend who has been saying all along that he felt like it would be taken away from him somehow.
That would pretty much do it. The glory would be reduced significantly.

[CakeGrrl]

21. The Clinton campaign can go fuck itself. Seriously.

Thuggery and threats 'til the end. Is anyone surprised?

Obama doesn't need this, she's a drag on the ticket and frankly I think she's a threat to his safety in the long term, and I'll keep faith that he's smart enough not to bite. Clinton's mouth-foaming subdemographic can be replaced.

[Celebration]

22. Before the reference to the Robert Kennedy assassination

It might have been possible. Honestly she just creeped me out too much with that statement. He needs to offer her some juicy cabinet position where she will not be in line for the presidency.

[geiger]

23. see my post just a few minutes ago; similar reaction

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6245586&mesg_id=6245586

[ErinBerin84]

27. one point that a couple of reporters have confirmed about the Obama camp

(at least, Chuck Todd and Jonathan Alter, on separate occasions) that if they offer her VP (even though a lot of people in his camp are not too enthusiastic about it because they think it conflicts with his message), they won't be forced into it- that Obama thinks if he could be forced into it, then (or at least, the perception would be) he's too weak to be president anyways, or something like that. I'm not really communicating this in the right way, but has anyone seen this point reiterated a couple of ways by reporters? Feel free to express it in a more eleoquent way than I have, my brain is fried right now.

[indimuse]

28. ThIS IS A LIE!

!!! MORE SMEAR !! Don't LQQK, Obama is getting his ASS handed to him in SD! Oh...noooooooo....

[ExPatLeftist]

30. Hello :) Troll or jokester? ;)

[EFerrari]

34. This is the poster that is "concerned" that Obama is a Black Panther.

I'm sure only our good is at stake.

[eissa]

37. This is ridiculous

The person who emerges as the party's nominee has earned the right to pick their own damn VP. Why are people trying to take that away from Obama? If he picks HRC, fine, if not even better IMO. All this threating rhetoric of "he better pick her or......" fill in the blank with "I'll vote for McSame" or "he's a sexist pig" is so aggravating.

[ExPatLeftist]

38. Update: She didn't. allow him his night She tried to divide even more.

She needs to go away so we can win in November.