Why should Hillary get the VP spot?

[mudesi]

She has

- Pandered to racists
- Hypocritically accused him of plagiarism
- Mocked him and his supporters
- Told him to be ashamed of himself
- Praised http://youtube.com/watch?v=ou4JnWQsxKw">John McCain in order to attack him
- Exploited his bitter remark
- Expressed what she really feels about the liberal base
- Played the fear card
- Invoked assassination

And now she begs to be his vice president?

Sorry, Hillary. What goes around comes around. Had she run a different campaign, I'd have been all for an Obama/Clinton ticket. She squandered that privilege and has nobody to blame but herself.

Don't do it, Obama. She is not worthy.

[El Supremo]

1. To get her votes?

I smell a rat.

[nebula]

4. While losing much of his own supporters in the process.

[TheDebbieDee]

7. So, you're saying you won't vote for him if Hillary is the VP?

[nebula]

8. Obama, the candidate of hope and change

He is suppose to be the anti-politician. Picking Hillary would prove to me beyond doubt that he is anything but those things. It would be for purely political reasons over merit when there are much better qualified choices. That is not anti-politics, hence remove any justification I ever had for supporting him.

[RaleighNCDUer]

10. It's safe to say that most here will vote for him no matter who he picks,

but she would lose him any number of anti-hillary dems in the real world, as well as huge numbers of independents and crossover republicans.

Thus, lose him the election.

[Prophet 451]

27. Not about us

I'll support the Democratic nominee regardless but think about this for a minute: About half the country said they wouldn't vote for Hillary under any circumstances before she'd even started campaigning (in fairness, most of that had little to do with her) so presumably, selecting her as VP loses Obama any potential voters in that camp. Most of Hillary's sane supporters will vote for the Dem nominee in November anyway (even if they have to hold their nose to do so), it's only the fanatical partisans who insist on Hillary on the ticket or they'll vote McCain/stay home. So the question is, who has more numbers, the fanatical partisans or the outright Hillary haters?

Of course, we're assuming the fanatics would be happy with Hillary getting teh VP slot and wouldn't vote McCain/stay home because Hillary wasn't at the top of the ticket.

[damntexdem]

2. Easily answered: she shouldn't.

[rock]

3. New to politics are we?

Anyway, the answer is politics.

[WA98296]

5. Spot on. On top of that NO ONE can control Bill, what a mess that would be.

[chill_wind]

26. Cannot be emphasized enough, ALONG with all else.

The ongoing coverage of the Vanity Fair story-- and now his reactions-- going on this very day of days (MSNBC) is ample evidence of that.

[Bigleaf]

6. What? You don't trust her? You wouldn't want her backing up Obama?

:evilgrin:

[truebrit71]

9. She shouldn't. Next?

.

[bunnies]

11. She cant even concede.

She needs to stfu about VP anything until she does that. :mad:

[adoraz]

12. Good summary, can anyone think of any others?

[ForeignSpectator]

23. How about the whole muslim business, "as far as I know" and the circulated

pictures of Obama in that Kenyan dress-up...

Also exploited the Rev. Wright "thing" with statements like "he would never be MY pastor" ( when in fact he came to the WH in the '90s because of marital crisis )...

[AspenRose]

13. That just proves she's tough enough to handle anything thrown at her.

Seriously, I've seen that argument here before....

:wow:

[yourguide]

14. You forgot trying to attach him to Farrakhan and Hamas at that shitty ABC debate.

[jgraz]

15. She's not begging. She's deigning to consider it.

I feel so privileged. :puke:

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

16. When she picked up the kitchen sink to throw it at Obama, she dropped it on her own foot.

She ran a totally classless, clueless, negative campaign. She endorsed McCain over Obama.On a side note, Bill is just an out of control mess lately. I think he should go back to doing the great work he is doing in Africa, make piles of money speaking in Dubai, and enjoy living the unscrutinized life. He can reclaim some greatness if he tries hard enough.

If she had run a classy, high road campaign based on issues, I bet she would have ultimately prevailed. It was her choice to traverse the low road that brought her down.

[WillTheGoober]

17. Nobody's begging...

And your list is opinion -- not fact.

She has 17 million + voters, that's why.

He didn't win this by a landslide. Sorry.

W.

[hokies4ever]

18. You can't "earn" a V.P. spot

By the way, the V.P. has very little official power. Obama doesn't even have to give his V.P. an office in Washington. So it doesn't make sense to force a V.P. on someone. JFK and LBJ comes to mind. Our country went through the Cuban Missile Crisis and our President kept the V.P. out of the loop because they didn't govern well together. It was JFK and RFK (the attorney general) solving that crisis. Forced vice presidencies make little to no sense. If Hillary thinks she should be V.P., then she should make her case to Obama.

[mudesi]

19. My list is opinion?

You might need a dictionary because I don't think you know the meaning of the word "opinion".

The list links to video evidence of her actions.

[hokies4ever]

21. Will's been shilling for Hillary all day long

Pay him no mind. Just upset that his Messiah went down in flames. Looking to crap on our parade as a result. :rofl:

[Prophet 451]

29. The vast majority of whom will vote for the Dem anyway

It's only the fanatical partisans who will refuse to vote Dem when Obama's the nominee.

[ConservativeDemocrat]

20. *** Because What It Would Say About Him ***

It would say:

#1 He is not vindictive.
#2 He can work with people he's previously disagreed with.
#3 He's a "safe" pick to be President.
#4 He recognizes and appreciates powerful women.
#5 He has the ability to turn enemies into friends.

Full disclosure - I was a HRC supporter until Feb., when she started talking about cheating in Florida and Michigan. Then, disgusted, I switched to Obama.

Please take this from a Democrat who comes from a rural, very conservative, section of America: picking Hillary - despite everything she's done - would be the #1 way for him to change minds among real swing voters.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

[Prophet 451]

31. All good reasons but...

...a lot of people just plain hate Hillary and would never vote for any ticket that included her (in fairness, the reasons for that usually have little to do with her personally). Hillary's rational supporters will vote Democratic whoever Obama picks for VP so if Obama picks Hillary (and as you said, there are good reasons to do so), he only gains the fanatical Hillary supporters (assuming they'd be satisfied with a VP slot) and loses the Hillary-haters. I have no idea which group is bigger.

Personally, I'd rather his VP pick wasn't Hillary because I think there are people far more deserving and far more capable (then again, I could say the same about Obama as the nominee, he was my fourth choice).

[jespwrs]

22. Great OP!

I hope he doesn't pick her. Please God...
Bad idea.

[burythehatchet]

24. Because George Bush wants a quiet, indictment-free retirement.

[TBF]

25. I think Obama knows a career-limiting move when he sees one.

He'll take some time and do this right.

[RC]

28. I don't think very many people realize just how career-limiting picking Hillary for VP

would be. Hillary could very well finish out Obama's first term. I think Obama is smart enough to know this.

[Zavulon]

30. Recommended.

I have never been in stronger agreement with any post anywhere on DU.

[NorthCarolina]

32. She shouldn't

PERIOD "."

[erebusman]

33. ill give you a few more

1) Shes too old. By the end of 8 years of President Obama she would probably be too old to run for office. I would like to see someone 10 years younger as vice pres. Someone still old enough to bring "experience" to the ticket but young enough to give us a great candidate to put up in a few years.

2) Bill Clinton. I just can't see how President Obama would deal with that situation and the negative media coming from both Hillary and Bill in the GE and afterwards.

3)Since Hillary thinks McCain would make a better president than Obama he should have her be his VP candidate yes?

peace

PS: Only half of the above is in jest and half in sarcasm. Some parts are both, some are neither.