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NatBurner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:41 PM
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Republicans begin to highlight Clinton’s criticism of Obama
Hours before the polls closed Tuesday in the final two Democratic presidential primaries, the Republican National Committee began circulating a video of Hillary Clinton questioning Barack Obama’s qualifications to be commander-in-chief, and acknowledging John McCain has this important presidential credential.

“Senator McCain will bring a lifetime of experience to the campaign, I will bring a lifetime of experience and Senator Obama will bring a speech that he gave in 2002,” Clinton says in the one-minute video of CNN’s coverage of a news conference she held on March 8 – the day Obama won the Wyoming caucuses. “I think that is a significant difference. I think that since we now know Senator McCain will be the nominee for the Republican Party, national security will be front and center in this election. We all know that.

"And I think it is imperative that each of us be able to demonstrate we can cross the commander-in-chief threshold. And I believe I have done that. Certainly, Senator McCain has done that. And you will have to ask Senator Obama with respect to his candidacy.”

The RNC posted the video on YouTube early Tuesday afternoon, just as Obama was on the verge of locking up the Democratic nomination and speculation heated up about Clinton being his running mate.

read the rest here

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/06/03/republicans-begin-to-highlight-clinton%e2%80%99s-criticism-of-obama/
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BklynChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:41 PM
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1. I can never forgive her for that shit.
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Abacus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:43 PM
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7. I think Pelosi was right
That pretty much ended her chances of being on the ticket -- not out of spite, but because of contradiction.
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Meshuga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:47 PM
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16. Yep
And that's why I think it is a mistake to have her on the ticket. How can we have Clinton on the ticket when it is easy to find her quotes attacking Obama?
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:51 PM
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29. This is why she will NEVER EVER be VP.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 04:18 PM
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45. and Obama will never be president
the GOP wants to see him out there running on his own so they can launch an Atwater style smear campaign and leave the Dems with no viable candidate.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 04:23 PM
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47. Knowing that the party was smart enough NOT to heed the advise of the Clintons and instead moved
Edited on Tue Jun-03-08 04:24 PM by mod mom
toward a change agenda, I don't believe her words will hold much credence.

She has done damage to the party just like her husband. Let's hope the Clinton era is over and we see a Democratic Party that works for the people instead of the privileged. These words come to mind:

Al From, the DLC's founder and CEO, opened a freewheeling discussion forum by arguing that Democrat Al Gore made a huge tactical mistake by continually emphasizing that he would "fight for the people and not the powerful" as the nation's first president of the 21st Century.

-snip

http://www.progress.org/goredlc2.htm

LET'S MOVE AWAY FORM THE DLC!
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 04:24 PM
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49. LET'S MOVE AWAY FORM THE DLC!
Amen.

Isn't that kind of a no-brainer by now? Jeez.
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Abacus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 04:31 PM
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52. OH,
crackle

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Scriptor Ignotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 04:56 PM
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54. because they wouldn't have done that against Hillary?
it doesn't matter if we already know her baggage. They would just make some new shit up to use against her anyway.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 04:59 PM
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56. Yes. He will be president. The Republicans had better figure out how to
Edited on Tue Jun-03-08 05:00 PM by Window
clean up McWar's baggage.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 05:01 PM
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57. Your time here will soon be running out if you continue with your attacks
Edited on Tue Jun-03-08 05:01 PM by merh
on Obama, you do realize that, don't you? Please be very careful.

I don't want you banned, I want you around so I can be one of the first ones to pmail you or call your name when Obama wins in November.

:hi:



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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 06:02 PM
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63. Seven more days.. get this out of your system while you can.
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Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 04:22 PM
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46. And now the big headlines
Are "Hillary is ready to be the VP"! With all the crap she has said about Obaam, and the republicans will be using against Obama from now till the election, she is not helping now, she will not help him in the future!
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 05:07 PM
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61. He will lose without her help
That is a fact that you will just have to eventually come to grips with.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 05:06 PM
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60. You will thank her, once you realize what the vetting process is....
and how it works. You just cannot let go of your misery. That is OK, the admins will start banning people who keep it going once he is the nominee. I say, good riddance.
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panAmerican Donating Member (864 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 11:37 AM
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66. Me neither. She's a traitor.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:42 PM
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2. Predictable
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NatBurner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:44 PM
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10. of the republicans
they'll have more luck with this than putting grampy on camera, that's for sure

i don't think it'll hurt much tho

we've been there, done that
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:46 PM
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13. We haven't even BEGUN to see it. WE may have been there, done that,
but the Republicans are just warming up.
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NatBurner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:53 PM
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34. there's always this:
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 04:14 PM
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40. I think Hillary's statement is worse.
She used that line I think three times.

McCain was bullshitting, and he'll be called on it. But he never said a Democratic candidate was more prepared for the job than one of his Republican competitors.

I honestly don't think it could get worse than this.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:42 PM
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3. THIS is why she shouldn't be the VP. Period.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:43 PM
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4. Well, I'm sure that'll stop that once she's the VP choice...
:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:43 PM
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5. Kitchen Sink
Thank you Senator Clinton. You will not be missed.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:43 PM
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6. Exactly why she can NOT be the VP.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:44 PM
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8. Hillary has really harmed the party by that remark --
we'll be responding to it throughout the entire campaign. She should be ousted from the party. Along with Lieberman.

It's unforgivable!

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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:44 PM
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9. Thanks, Hillary!
:eyes:
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:55 PM
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35. +1
:eyes:
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:45 PM
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11. I'm sure Hillary's "bitter" commerical will be next
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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:45 PM
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12. That's a risky strategy...
...since you know the Republicans had equally juice comments about McCain.
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NatBurner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:50 PM
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28. right?
this is a sign of fear, imo

this is the best they can do
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:47 PM
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14. shit. I knew it.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:47 PM
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Clinton had the SAME BAD JUDGMENT as McCain - she voted for Iraq.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:47 PM
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15. But we Obama supporters better not criticize her for making this possible!
Oh hell no! We gotta pretend she shits roses so her dumbass supporters won't vote for McCain!

:puke:
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:48 PM
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18. yeah, I need a punching bag...
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:49 PM
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We risk offending white women on the Upper West Side!
They're oppressed, I tell you! Harriet Christian says so!
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:51 PM
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30. Yeah, I wrote a ton of posts trying to explain to Hillary supporters
why that comment put me into Obama's camp. Instead of trying to understand how the Repukes would use this, they just called me a new addition to the cult. I wonder if any of them will apologize. :eyes:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:53 PM
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32. Teh logic. It is like kryptonite!
:banghead:


And re: apologies... :rofl:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:48 PM
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17. We KNEW this was coming; bound to happen. nt
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:49 PM
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21. haha...
great minds think alike.
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:48 PM
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19. we knew this would happen as soon as we heard it.
I hope that she regrets those statements.
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Jazzgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:48 PM
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20. This is exactly why she will never be Obama's VP
running mate. There is too much material from her that the pukes can use against him. So sad she used such a scorched earth method.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:49 PM
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22. NO VP for JYOU!!
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:49 PM
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23. so they're playing the Clinton playbook? And where did that get Clinton?
:freak:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:50 PM
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27. They're playing to a different audience though.
A much, MUCH dumber one. :7
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NatBurner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:59 PM
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36. they ARE dumb, aren't they?
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SurfingAtWork Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:49 PM
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24. Her words are coming back to haunt her in the form of GOP attack ads?
Edited on Tue Jun-03-08 03:51 PM by SurfingAtWork
I'm just stunned with amazement. I didn't see that coming from a mile away. This will be the gift to the GOP that keeps on giving all the way to Nov.

:grr:
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Growler Donating Member (896 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:49 PM
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This is why she can't be VP!!!
Too many negatives, plus she basically wrote the GOP's playbook for them!
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:49 PM
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25. No more Clintons, No more Bushes, No more taking it in our tushes!!
Evah.
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reflection Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:49 PM
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26. No Way. You're Kidding.
Who would have EVER thought Hillary's kneecapping of a fellow Democrat while placing the Republican on a pedestal would be used by the Republicans in an ad.

:eyes:
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:51 PM
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31. And yet, Obama has to court her? NFW.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:53 PM
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33. If "assassination" talk didn't do it, will this *finally* shut down the VP speculation?
I hope so.

She deserves some blowback for this repeated comment.

Actions have consequences; she doesn't just get to slime Obama left and right and expect a consolation prize. She could have earned respect and she went to the gutter.
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NatBurner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 04:06 PM
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37. and now they have carter in on the act:
Minutes after a spokesman for President Carter confirmed reports Tuesday that he was officially endorsing Barack Obama’s presidential bid, the Republican National Committee sent reporters a two-year-old YouTube clip in which he said the Illinois senator was not ready for the Oval Office.

“I just don’t think he’s got yet the proven substance or experience to be the president,” Carter told PBS host Charlie Rose in a 2006 interview, when asked whether Obama’s effectiveness as a campaigner and enthusiasm he had generated on the campaign trail that year might make him a good presidential candidate this cycle.

Elsewhere in that interview, he added that he considered Al Gore the best-qualified presidential candidate, although if then-frontrunner Hillary Clinton was nominated, he would support her.

Carter has not explained spoken publicly about his decision to endorse Obama, but in earlier interviews has spoken approvingly of the response generated by the Illinois senator’s candidacy.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/06/03/rnc-points-to-earlier-carter-interview-skeptical-of-obama-qualifications/
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 04:08 PM
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38. Ugh. Thanks a lot, Hillary!
:thumbsdown:

Many of us predicted this. :mad:
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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 04:11 PM
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39. I don't think they want her as VP
They are probably worried that two nearly equally dynamic candidates would be up against a decrepit Republican Party. By discouraging Obama from choosing Clinton, it would increase their chances of victory. At any rate, this type of attack is extremely common and takes place in every election, but it's kind of transparent. I do not think Clinton's attacks on Obama will be much more than a footnote once the campaign beings in earnest.
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NatBurner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 04:15 PM
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42. that's the way i see it too
also, remember when that clinton ad came out after bittergate?

"the reason sen clinton's message is being rejected is because blahblah"

that was genius-

i can't wait to see how team obama turns this one
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Willo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 04:14 PM
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41. And that is just the beginning of her talking points.
Edited on Tue Jun-03-08 04:35 PM by WIllo
Obama will hardly get a word in edgewise and when he does, he will not be able to defend the things she has said without contradicting and crushing his own message. Together they will be made to look like fools.

“Senator McCain will bring a lifetime of experience to the campaign, I will bring a lifetime of experience and Senator Obama will bring a speech that he gave in 2002,” Clinton says in the one-minute video of CNN’s coverage of a news conference she held on March 8 – the day Obama won the Wyoming caucuses. “I think that is a significant difference. I think that since we now know Senator McCain will be the nominee for the Republican Party, national security will be front and center in this election. We all know that.

"And I think it is imperative that each of us be able to demonstrate we can cross the commander-in-chief threshold. And I believe I have done that. Certainly, Senator McCain has done that. And you will have to ask Senator Obama with respect to his candidacy.


The RNC posted the video on YouTube early Tuesday afternoon, just as Obama was on the verge of locking up the Democratic nomination and speculation heated up about Clinton being his running mate.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 04:16 PM
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43. There is nothing new under the sun, people!
Obama criticized Edwards. Edwards endorsed Obama.

Kerry criticized Edwards. Edwards criticized Kerry. Kerry chose Edwards for VP.
"Even Kerry once took a shot at Edwards' inexperience. "When I came back from Vietnam in 1969, I don't know if John Edwards was out of diapers then," Kerry quipped before the Iowa caucuses in January."

Gore criticized Clinton. Clinton criticized Gore. Clinton chose Gore for VP.

McCain criticized Bush. McCain endorsed and campaigned for Bush.

In EVERY SINGLE CASE, one person said they were more qualified than the other to be President.

This is totally insignificant. It happens in every election cycle.

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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:48 AM
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65. Yes, there is something new
A major Dem candidate saying that the REPUKE is more qualified than her Dem opponent. It would have been fine if she'd just said she was better than Obama and left if at that.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 04:17 PM
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44. IWR vote + aligning w/ McCain = HRC-Traitor
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 04:24 PM
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48. You knew this was going to happen. Thats why she won't be on the ticket
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 04:26 PM
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50. Great! That means they don't have any original material.
Maybe they can hire Harriet to scream at people.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 04:30 PM
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51. We saw this coming, so we just have to deal with it.
It won't help the Repubs if Obama handles it the way he handled it when Hillary did it. And I see no reason not to expect him to hammer them early and often.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 04:55 PM
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53. K/R.
:kick:
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 04:58 PM
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55. Michael Baisden said that she gave the GOP ammunition
with her opened to being VP comments.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 05:04 PM
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58. This video is what caused me to switch from Clinton to Obama
I can not forgive that. For her to promote a macabre nominee like McCain is a slap in the face to everything that has been tried to bring unity to the Democratic party.

If people want to know why we can't unite...it's the statemetn above. It is what pissed off Pelosi and so many others and it's what pissed me off so much I had to leave her camp.


McCain's attitude absolutely terrifies me. The thought of him as president scares the living day lights out of me because of his call for 100 years war and for his song "Bomb bomb bomb Iran." He has flip-flopped to oblivion but she promoted that. I am not denying his commendable service to his country, but his mindset is something very different.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 05:05 PM
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59. They've also picked up Clinton's race-baiting....
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2008/06/luckie-duckie-black-people-by-dday-it.html

"On the June 2 broadcast of his nationally syndicated radio program, while discussing Sen. Barack Obama's presidential candidacy, Rush Limbaugh asserted that the Democratic Party was "go with a veritable rookie whose only chance of winning is that he's black."


As one droll critic of the sort of race-baiting of Clinton and Limbaugh used and are using put it:

"Obama is going to become Blackazoid, the Nubian Avenger, here to right all the perceived wrongs black people illegitimately feel were heaped on them since we solved racism in 1963. Reparations? He wants them. Islam? Prepare to pay a prayer mat fee for your kids’ next school year. I can’t wait to hear the shit we didn’t even know was racist - did you know Obama wants to put elastic bands on all our pants? And ban straws?

Blackness is about to become the best privilege imaginable, and stories of disadvantaged white people the new currency of the Republican realm."
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 05:09 PM
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62. This is exactly why I was disgusted with her campaign
Thanks for making it easier for the Rethugs to make their attacks, Hillary.

You know what the Republicans are going to say when called out on it.

"Hey it's a Democrat who said it."

It's as sickening as it is predictable. This is why I'm pissed at HRC.

Regards
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 06:47 PM
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64. What pisses me off...
...is not that the pukes are running these ads, that was inevitible. Nor is it even that Hillary said them, that was short-sighted but no more so than usual. What pisses me off is that even if Obama loses, the Hillary fanatics will *NEVER* admit that Hillary's comments played any part in it. They'll insist that Hillary ran a whiter-than-white campaign that had no effect whatsoever on Obama's GE prospects and his loss would simply be proof that they were right all along.

If Obama loses, I can see the party splitting: The progressives go one way under Obama; the moderates and DLC faction go the other under the Clintons. And except for the four years of Bush Redux, that might be best for everyone involved.
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67. I think we warned everyone this would happen.
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