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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 06:59 PM
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Poll question: Better VP pick to draw the rural, white males: Hillary or Edwards?
Hillary's pitch for the VP slot is that she will draw blue collar whites better than Obama, but if that's what's needed, wouldn't Edwards fit the bill without bringing all the baggage?

I realize there are other choices out there, but this is assuming the goal is sewing up that one demographic.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 07:01 PM
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1. If we wanted the rural white male vote, we really should have nominated a Republican.
Dems haven't won the bumfuck vote since FDR. We'll do fine without them.


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Fox Mulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 07:02 PM
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3. Agreed.
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 07:08 PM
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16. The west is different... don't confuse us with Appalachia or the South
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newfie11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 07:10 PM
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21. OK My husband is a rural white male
and while I call him names some times I really don't think he would qualify as a bum-fuck. He was for Hillary and now will vote for Obama. We also have friend in this rural area of Nebraska (farmers). The rural white males in the bunch are voting democratic and were for hillary.

Don't write us country bumpkins off!!
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 07:12 PM
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23. The only ones who qualify as bum-fucks are those who won't vote for a black man.
Actually, "bumfuck" is too nice for them.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 07:01 PM
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2. I don't remember her being some kind of working class icon in the nineties
She only glommed onto the working class when she had pissed off every other demographic and alienated them beyond supporting her.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 07:34 PM
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31. she didn't seem to care too much about them as a Walmart board member.
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Melancholic Toaster Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 07:02 PM
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4. How about....
Claire McCaskill (sp?) she's from Missouri, is a low-key good lookin lady, and has been debated as one of his choices for a female VP.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 07:04 PM
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I haven't been that impressed with Claire.
Maybe I just caught her at bad times, but she really hasn't struck me as VP material.
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Melancholic Toaster Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 07:07 PM
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11. yeah
She's kind of bland and uncharismatic IMHO, but Obama's the main show, so he needs someone that'll be a good second fiddle, not necessarily someone that would make a good main man themself.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 07:08 PM
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17. He needs someone who a) could reasonably be president if the worst happens and...
b) could potentially bring more voters to the ticket.
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Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 07:23 PM
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26. I agree with
the VP has to be someone who could take over if needed, and who would carry on the goal of making the changes that this country needs. That could be anyone, but not Hillary!
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 07:02 PM
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5. Katherine Sebelius. nt
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 07:08 PM
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15. She'll be a great Senate candidate in Kansas. nt
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New Dawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 07:04 PM
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6. Definitely John Edwards.
BTW, I live in Nebraska.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 07:04 PM
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7. Jim Webb
Edwards is so unpopular in his home state that Obama LOSES support vs McCain with him as running mate, based on polling.

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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 07:42 PM
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32. Based on WHOSE polling?
I live here and have never seen any such thing.
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 07:05 PM
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8. Neither - Brian Schweitzer is better than both
He is the real deal.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 07:12 PM
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24. you had me until the bidenesque ''real deal''
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 07:05 PM
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9. Brian Schweitzer.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 07:28 PM
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29. I love everything I've read, seen and heard about him! Good pick.
Edwards for Attorney General!
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Yukari Yakumo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 07:06 PM
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10. Neither, Brian Schweitzer. {nt}
uguu
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 07:07 PM
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12. Hey... I'm a rural white elderly male and, along with all of my friends,
I'm voting for Obama!!!
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 07:13 PM
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25. I didn't mean to insult rural white guys, just wanted to point out a hole in Hillary's case
that you could drive a combine through.
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KSCFAN Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 07:07 PM
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13. Bill Gates
That would be great. Tons of money and a very rational person. Perfect to put against the anti-science types.
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 07:09 PM
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19. But you would automatically lose the Mac/Linux vote
:(
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KSCFAN Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 07:12 PM
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22. Why?
Just because you use a Mac or Linux doesn't mean you hate Gates. Or does it?
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 07:28 PM
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28. Doesn't mean you "have to"
But a lot of them do.

Hell, I know Windows users who hate Bill Gates. I did, for a while when I had a PC with Windows ME on it.
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 07:07 PM
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14. Edwards would be, but he's better suited as Attorney General
Edited on Tue Jun-03-08 07:08 PM by newmajority
Because he wants to rip the corporations a new asshole, and the Veep can't do that.

Obama/Richardson 2008
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 07:09 PM
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18. Why not pick someone who actually won an election on rural whites?
I'm not sure about Edwards but I doubt Hillary won her New York Senate race on the rural White Vote.

I wonder how Sebelius and Napolitano fare in this regard.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 07:10 PM
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20. Well, Edwards did help Kerry to win, oh wait,,,n/m!
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Stop Cornyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 07:26 PM
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27. I think John Edwards or Tim Kaine or Jim Webb would all appeal to that demographic
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 07:30 PM
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30. Webb would do it on resume alone--decorated Vietnam vet, Reagan's ass't SecDef...
Edited on Tue Jun-03-08 07:33 PM by yurbud
nuff said.
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