NPR: Hillary says not so fast--no concession, and not on Friday

[dailykoff]

NPR is reporting that Hillary just changed the script one more time -- she won't concede, but simply acknowledge Obama's delegates; she'll do it on Saturday; and she's not ready to surrender her delegates.

Good grief! :wow:

link to AP story: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=91169851

The former first lady told House Democrats during a private conference call Wednesday that she will express support for Barack Obama's candidacy and congratulate him for gathering the necessary delegates to be the party's nominee.

"Senator Clinton will be hosting an event in Washington, D.C., to thank her supporters and express her support for Senator Obama and party unity. This event will be held on Saturday to accommodate more of Senator Clinton's supporters who want to attend," her communications director Howard Wolfson said.

[WilliamPitt]

1. I'm eating my own face.

If a link comes along, I'd be grateful if you posted it.

Argh.

[Muttocracy]

10. CNN:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/04/democrats.wednesday/index.html

[Muttocracy]

27. However, MSNBC has this new breaking twist:

Breaking news update: NBC - Clinton will endorse Obama, won't waive right to have name placed in nomination
:eyes:

[sfam]

34. She's trying to eak yet another day here...Bottom line, if she continues..

the train will fully leave without her. Everyone will make publicly clear what a piece of shit response her actions have been. Her campaign staff will be sending resumes to Obama, all of her supporters will distance themselves from her, and Hillary will lose all cred in the Senate.

[blonndee]

51. If she's after what it seems, then let her do it!

If she doesn't do the right thing, she SHOULD be publicly called out for it and shunned.

[yourguide]

93. She'll still have penn and ickes

even though they hate one another.

not sure about wolfson.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

110. can;t resist. eke

[Frank Booth]

152. Can't resist. Can't

[Mike L]

" Never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of

honour and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy. "

William Churchill

[Spider Jerusalem]

133. That's WINSTON Churchill, not William.

And honour and good sense, if Hillary possessed either, would tell her it's over.

[Kool Kitty]

168. Okay, I will admit that I don't know lots of stuff, so here comes what

may be a silly question. What does "...won't waive right to have name placed in nomination" mean?

[papau]

11. "suspend" is standard - concede is not - endorse should be enough - don't eat your face! At today's

AIPAC she said Obama "will make a great friend of Israel"

What the hell more does the DU Obama fan want? A bit more "grovel"?

[Windy]

43. suspend is fine. She should do it like Edwards did however...with class and decency and not holding

her delegates over the nominees head.

Her behavior continues to astound me.

[NotThisTime]

116. Agreed, the word and practice of Suspending is very common,It also gives them

It also gives them an additional 30 days of fundraising to pay off their debts if I am not mistake

[Why Syzygy]

91. She also referred to herself as a "senator from New York".. that's progress

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6274601&mesg_id=6274601

[laugle]

115. It's really amazing that

people here still spend time bickering about nonsense, while the the RW will spend the next few months trying to destroy Obama and his wife, people need to get a clue and try to focus on the big picture. McCain is now the opponent, not Hillary! Now, we are in the GE!

He is the "presumptive" nominee, unless the RW comes up with some damaging info that makes him unelectable. That's why the next few months are so important.

As a Hillary supporter, I'm not holding my breath, but, like they say, "in politics, anything is possible and 2 months is a longggggg time!"

Instead of people being so cocky, they should remember, this was a very close election. Obama did not win by the people, he was installed and choosen by the SD's. Hillary will suspend here delegates and be there if the party should need her!

Obama, will not only have to fend off attacks from the right, he will have to unify this very divided party. This will be a very tall order, indeed................

[ShortnFiery]

161. HRC stated that she WILL NOT ENDORSE. She has NO morals. NONE! NADA! n/t

[dailykoff]

30. here's the link:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=91169851

[Oleladylib]

85. Happy chewing..!!!

[roguevalley]

87. let her. she will end herself by her own hand. the more people see

her as a troll, as a selfish dead ender, the better.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

107. You. Are a funny dude !

[Shakespeare]

119. I know the feeling.

Hillary, please get your ass out there and do the right thing. :banghead:

[David Zephyr]

131. This pattern began before the Texas Primary. Keep kicking the can down the road.

I wasn't fooled. I don't believe a fucking word this couple says anymore.

They are monsters and they prey upon the goodwill of people and then always screw them.

They betray everyone.

I'm surprised they didn't eat their own child at this point.

[Owl]

138. I'm trying to hold on to any respect I've left of Hillary, but it's quickly slipping away....

[Muttocracy]

2. dragging.................. it............... out......................

[AZBlue]

3. This concerned me: "leaving her options open to retain her delegates and promote her issue agenda"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080605/ap_on_el_pr/obama_clinton

What the heck is going on?

[Radical Activist]

24. That's not uncommon.

Kucinich and Jerry Brown did that. Usually, people who stay in to promote their issues are people who genuinely care about issues and don't change their core message from week to week.

[AZBlue]

31. I'm ok with the issues - but I'm concerned about the delegates.

I guess in the end though she really can't control them.

[Changenow]

79. OK, but why is Hillary doing it?

Money, sabotage or RFK, I suppose.

[housewolf]

128. "Leverage" - it's not unusual

A candidate with has some delegates but not a majority has leverage going into the convention. She can hold on to her delegates and they will have full voting rights on the Platform Committee and other committees at the convention. She can use that to "tune" the party's platform towards issues that she cares about.

[Cha]

"Her issues" are hilary and I can't

wait until there's no more fucking talk of her and her issues.

[JerseygirlCT]

36. Seriously, that's what confuses and concerns me

It's not as if her issues aren't the same issues Obama has spoken about. It's not like he's got a radically different view of things. They have very, very similar positions on most issues.

So what is it really that she feels the need to promote?

[AZBlue]

46. The limelight?

I really don't trust her.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

111. the only thing is mandated health care. Hell, give it to her !

[housewolf]

130. Her delegates give her leverage going into the convention

Her delegates will have full voting rights in the Platform Committee meeting and other committee meetings. She can use their votes to "tune" the platform towrds her issues, among other things.

She may have lost, but with the number of delegtes she has, she still has leverage and some power. It's not unusual for a losing candidate who has delegates to hold on to them until after the first vote.

[JerseygirlCT]

178. I do know that

the question is what fine-tuning are we talking about? Truly, their positions are not very different. That's what I'm saying - this isn't like two candidates with radically different views. They basically agree. So, in essence, she's already got what she says she wants.

[Occam Bandage]

49. That means she wants to keep her delegates so she can affect the party platform. Common practice.

[guruoo]

66. The rookies won't get it.

[AZBlue]

70. I wouldn't consider myself a rookie.

I just don't trust Hillary Clinton.

[Occam Bandage]

78. Edwards did the same, as did Romney, as did Huckabee. Common practice.

Candidates only totally drop out if they're so embroiled in scandal that their delegation's presence at the convention would harm the party--or if they don't have any delegates to lose.

[AZBlue]

90. I just worry that given her track record, she will try something at the convention with

"her" delegates. I'm just paranoid, I know. But that's what happens when you deal with crazy for so long I guess!

Thanks!

[Occam Bandage]

100. It's an understandable concern, but she can't really do anything with a minority.

Obama will control the floor (meaning he decides who talks and what gets voted on), as well as a majority of delegates (meaning he controls how the important votes turn out), so she quite literally can't do anything but sit down and clap nicely.

[AZBlue]

177. Looking forward to that!

It will be a first for her. ;)

[Meshuga]

102. Edwards released his delegates

Hillary is keeping them. I don't trust her either and I can't see her fully supporting Obama when she holds her delegates. There is no difference in platform between Hillary and Obama for her to do this.

I am scared she might create a fuss at the convention. She is only doing this to get the VP spot. But she won't be his VP.

[MindMatter]

121. And stopped campaigning for the office

[MindMatter]

122. And gave an unambiguous endorsement

[guruoo]

141. ...

[ShortnFiery]

160. I did not think that I could distrust a democratic politician as much as HRC.

To me, HRC IS as evil incarnate as our current pResident. :nuke:

[SoxFan]

165. Tsongas did this in 1992

He held on to his delegates until the actual nomination vote in order to push for several platform changes dealing with deficit reduction and fiscal policy.

Hey, it got me a floor credentials, so I can't complain!

[guruoo]

140. Well OK then

[Oleladylib]

89. You realize the 8 out of 10 Duers do not get that!!!

[housewolf]

125. In 1992, Jerry Brown took his campaign all the way to the convention

And didn't release his delegates until after the first vote. He never quit the race.

Everyone knew Bill Clinton had won the nomination, but a candidate going into the convention with delegates has leverage others don't have. It's not so rare or unusual for multiple candidaates with delegates to not release them until after the first vote at the convention. There is precedent for what her doing so.

[City Lights]

4. What?

:crazy:

[truthisfreedom]

5. We're going to have to gnaw our own leg off to get out of this.

Gawd, what a piece of work.

[Fridays Child]

176. It sounds like she asked for the VP slot, through back channels, but was rejected.

Now, she plans to hold the party hostage at the convention. But "why" is the question. Surely, Obama will have picked his VP by then.

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[WA98296]

42. Gee, I always get deleted when I say that, so may I simply second that!

[Raine]

59. word nt

[Mike L]

65. Sexist profanity again from Obama supporters. em

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[ShortnFiery]

154. Grow UP! You shame us women who have paved careers competing with men. Women who preform and

DO NOT WHINE like HRC and her supporters do at every DAMN OPPORTUNITY.

HRC and her surrogates USE "gender" as a fucking blunt forced instrument.

You hurt the hard working class woman who doesn't have the "status" to whine and DEMAND SYMPATHY.

HRC is PATHETIC ... unworthy of holding the office of dog catcher much less President.

[Willo]

75. agreeing & rec'ing this post nt

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[WA98296]

7. Are we all getting tired of getting jerked around by the Clintons?

[rodeodance]

103. op was wrong. It was un-scoursed aids and the media who played up a little story

[dailykoff]

105. It's an AP story and the quoted source is Wolfson.

Link in OP.

[ShortnFiery]

156. No, look in the fucking mirror, would ya? HRC's die hard supporters remind me

of the rabid right wing ... many of whom are my beloved extended family members I visit each summer.

Both the RIGHT WING and "Clintonite adorers" always blame SOMEONE ELSE for their problems.

They don't EVER take personal responsibility ... admit mistakes or take corrective action.

What a sad existence it must be ... comfortably numb in self-righteous indignation?

[JVS]

8. What an asshole.

[cottonseed]

9. I knew it.

I haven't been able to fully enjoy this yet. I doubt that any of us will for a long long time.

[PretzelWarrior]

she's convinced me she would be worse than Bush

just awful. something snapped in the Clintons between 1998 and now. just not the same people.

[mcctatas]

12. I'm such a dumbass...

I've been posting "I believe Hillary will do the right thing" and other such nonsense all nite, friggin fooled again!!!!! :nuke:

[polichick]

13. Please tell me this is a VERY BAD joke!!!

[dailykoff]

33. No joke. Wolfson is putting it out:

"Senator Clinton will be hosting an event in Washington, D.C., to thank her supporters and express her support for Senator Obama and party unity. This event will be held on Saturday to accommodate more of Senator Clinton's supporters who want to attend," her communications director Howard Wolfson said.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=91169851

[Recursion]

14. I think my spleen just imploded

Uh...
I...
:nuke:

[Botany]

15. Oh for the love of Dog

Guess i will pass out cupcakes in the mean time.

[DevonRex]

16. Oh. My. God. The woman is just... I have no idea what to call her. nt

[Spider Jerusalem]

132. loathsome?

[sniffa]

17. NPR is RW radio

Why listen to, or trust them!?

[PretzelWarrior]

21. WTF? hoping you're not serious

it is Israel Radio a little too often for my taste....but other than that, no.

[sniffa]

25. I think I'm known as quite the serious DUer

:D

[redqueen]

180. *snort*

:hi:

[Muttocracy]

39. I think they're centrist these days - I wish they'd ditch Fox's Juan Williams. nt

[musette_sf]

96. i am series about it

seriously, i have lost a good deal of respect for NPR in recent years. these days it's about the equivalent of reading Newsweek. MSM all the time.

[dailykoff]

48. Looks like it's from an AP story, and the source is Wolfson.

Yikes.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=91169851

[muryan]

60. If NPR is right wing

that puts fox news so far off the right side of the spectrum that its unfathomable.

[FatDave]

114. That doesn't really bolster your argument regarding NPR.

:evilgrin:

[JohnnyCougar]

67. I agree. NPR has gotten really bad lately.

Obviously they have a lot of liberal shows, but every now and then, when it's important, a piece of conservative propaganda slips through and all liberals believe it because it's NPR.

[TexasObserver]

18. Lucy, you got some 'splainin' to do!!

[Ichingcarpenter]

19. Oh crap....... It says suspend on NBC, but then it says

It says she will discuss steps this Friday with her supporters

[havocmom]

20. OK, now she is playing the stereotyped overbearing TV mother-in-law

who will not go back to her own home and stop making your life hell.

[Geek_Girl]

22. Well it just Says Sat instead of Friday

They game still the same the date just got pushed back one day.

[rocktivity]

23. She's decided to have a private event at her home on Friday

which I hope she decided to do in response to the anniversary of RFK's death, particularly after the remarks she made about him earlier.

Then there's supposed to be a public event on Saturday where she'll formally endorse Obama and call for party unity. And don't worry about her not surrendering her delegates--the reason for this sudden turn of events is that she's been warned that THEY will surrender HER if she doesn't get it together!

:headbang:
rocknation

[AZBlue]

26. CNN: It will be Saturday and she's throwing a party for supporters.

Question: who's paying for that party?

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/04/democrats.wednesday/index.html

[Generator]

28. She's burning her bridge to the 21st century

She's enlisting time traveling bunnies-I knew she would!

[DevonRex]

29. She will acknowledge his delegates? What the fuck does THAT

mean? I mean John Frickin' McCain can acknowledge his delegates.

[dailykoff]

40. Apparently she's planning to "retain" her delegates:

Hillary Rodham Clinton has decided to end her historic presidential campaign while leaving her options open to retain her delegates and promote her issue agenda, a campaign official says.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=91169851

[DevonRex]

53. Is it the elected delegates she's retaining? Or is she also not

officially releasing her superdelegate backers?

[dailykoff]

63. Not terribly clear, but it sounds like both:

"An adviser said Clinton and her lieutenants had discussed various ways a presidential candidacy can end, including suspending the campaign to retain control of her convention delegates and sustain her visibility in an effort to promote her signature issue of health care."

[FlaGranny]

169. I don't understand -

the 23 congresspeople and 8 senators ASKED her to concede and release them. Is she just going to ignore them and start jerking their chains too? Unbelievable. She is doing everything ass backwards if she really wants to get what she wants.

[Why Syzygy]

92. She wants to keep the hornets nest alive, despite senior advisors begging her not to.

[HeraldSquare212]

41. It's a decompression thing - it takes a while to get back to a full engagement with reality.

[DevonRex]

55. I think there's an unfixable short going on in that head of hers. nt

[BklynChick]

32. she needs to just do it tomorrow. what the fuck. this is not her story anymore. why does she need

more people around her. this is about OBAMA now, not her. i hate hate hate the clintons.

[rocktivity]

38. Well, she can still legally take donations until Saturday.

Good politicians are SUPPOSED to be fiscally responsible.

:headbang:
rocknation

[woolldog]

35. Showing her true colors.

And what a god awful President she would have made.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

37. I don't want nor need a concession.

I'll be perfectly happy if she simply endorses Obama. Congratulates him on his campaign and suspends her own campaign. That's all. Nothing more.

[grasswire]

44. it's the same thing John Edwards did

And if you read ABC and NYT stories, you'll see that they used the word "suspend." Not "concede."

So stop bashing her.

[Windy]

47. suspend is fine but why all the additional drama? Edwards did it with class

Frankly even the mitters did it with class...

She can't do that!

[grasswire]

54. Edwards didn't have to consider the feelings of almost 18 million supporters.

The PTB wanted him out, pronto. Early. Before 18 million people's hearts were on the line.

[Windy]

58. Feelings? she is not the nominee. If she truly cared about the country, she would start the healing

That is a ridiculous argument especially after the last 8 years! The country's problems are much bigger than Hillary.

[Carolina]

86. 18 million voters' hearts are NOT on the line,

many have buyer's remorse!

Just another bullshit Clinton talking point and lie.

Fuck Hillary. She's a disgusting, power mad, limelight crazed POS.

[Mme. Defarge]

167. Many are Republicans who won't

vote for any Dem. in the GE.

[lumpy]

127. Most Clinton haters don't know the meaning of class.

x

[rainbow4321]

144. Because...

[99th_Monkey]

45. I'd given her until Friday, and all would be forgiven. Fuck that now. Screw her.

Why anyone would want this graceless, petulant & self-serving whiner to run the country is way beyond me.

[Mike L]

50. No release of pledged delegates means it ain't officially over until the convention.

Maybe HRC knows something about the alleged Michelle tape.

[dailykoff]

56. Sounds like a non-endorsement.

I don't think this is going to stand. She's already gotten taken to the woodshed earlier today for not endorsing last night.

[DevonRex]

57. Oh STFU. nt

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

52. I'm sorry to say I'm not surprised at all by this.

It would be surprising if she actually suspends her campaign and endorses Obama by Saturday. This news doesn't surprise me one bit given her past behavior. She's just not ready to give up the attention yet.

Unfortunately for her, the Obama train has left the station and she's stuck there in a cloud of blowing newspapers.

[Fox Mulder]

61. I just fucking knew she'd drag this shit out until the goddamn convention.

:grr: :grr: :grr:

[thewiseguy]

62. Relax. She will concede on Saturday.

[Skip Intro]

64. perpetual outrage

She'll suspend her campaign and acknowledge that Obama has the necessary delegates to win the nomination. I think it's a smart move. She'll have some leverage over the platform to see that universal health care is a stated goal of the party (aaaaaahhhhhh!!!1!).

In 1980, Edward Kennedy took his campaign to the convention, despite Carter's having won enough delegates to get the nom. He pushed for the pledged dels to be released from their pledges. Hillary had that option, and it would not have been without precedent. I'm kinda sad she didn't. Yeah, yeah, we lost in 80, but that had nothing to do with Kennedy. Carter had the hostage situation in Iran that he failed to resolve, the botched rescue attempt, and a screwed up economy with long lines for gas against him. And in the final debate, he implied he gets advice from his then nine year old daughter Amy on nuclear proliferation. He also had a very charismatic opponent in Reagan, who was fond of saying there was no gas shortage. Kennedy didn't lose Carter reelection, Carter lost Carter reelection. And that makes me wonder, as much as I admire the guy, if he really is someone to be giving out advice on how to win an election at this point.

Having said all of that, I know the outrage will continue because Hillary doesn't say the words some demand, when they demand it. She refuses to be a puppet. And I admire her even more.

[faithfulcitizen]

72. she's perpetually outrageous.

[juajen]

163. She's perpetually savy and smart! NT

[Poll_Blind]

68. Goddamn it! THIS IS LIKE THE ENDING FROM CARRIE!

PB

[bicentennial_baby]

74. See this! :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C50gj5CDrU

[Poll_Blind]

83. Oh my god, I DID see that a few days ago. And it freaked the shit out of me.

  I'll admit it!

PB

[billyoc]

104. Who's the little creature, Carville?

:rofl:

[Poll_Blind]

113. It IS! I wasn't expecting that. My mind just snapped after seeing that, lol! n/t

PB

[gateley]

147. OT --

That got me hooked! I watched all the episodes on YouTube. Very creative and extremely talented folks! Thanks for posting the link!! :hi:

[Poll_Blind]

150. That Carville chest-buster blew mah mind! n/t

PB

[Pisces]

69. Rachel Maddow is right again. She nor I will believe it until we see it and hear it.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

71. Might I suggest people actually READ THE F-ING ARTICLE!

A senior Clinton adviser said the candidate and her lieutenants had discussed various ways a presidential candidacy can end, including suspending the campaign to retain control of her convention delegates and sustain her visibility in an effort to promote her signature issue of health care. This adviser spoke on condition of anonymity because officials were not authorized to discuss the conference call Clinton held with her congressional supporters.

The other options include freeing her delegates to back Obama and ending her candidacy unconditionally. The official stressed that neither Clinton nor her inner circle had decided specifically what course to take other than to recognize that the active state of her bid to become the nation's first female president had ended.

On the telephone call with impatient congressional supporters, Clinton was urged to draw a close to the contentious campaign, or at least express support for Obama. Her decision to acquiesce caught many in the campaign by surprise and left the campaign scrambling to finalize the logistics and specifics behind her campaign departure.


Or would you all rather just continue to go off on one snippet which doesn't reflect reality?

[Ichingcarpenter]

82. I'm Glad She Chose Saturday rather the anniversary of RFK's Death

Which would be Friday.



Good its over.......... I hope

[Lone_Star_Dem]

97. You know I didn't realize that was on Friday.

This year is flying by too fast.

You're right. It's better it be on Saturday if for that reason if no other.

[Willo]

88. The problem is I did read

and I see plenty of Clinton-style interpretational loopholes.

I'm having a FL/MI deja vu moment.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

95. Have a cup of Valerian tea, or a beer, or a glass of wine or bong hit or a xanax.

Whatever it takes for you to relax.

It's over. Really, it is. Saturday she'll endorse Obama and make a bid for unity. If she doesn't the other party leaders will be fitting her for a pair of political cement shoes. Either way, it's done.

Edit: because even I don't know what a "bot" hit is. :rofl:

[Willo]

123. LOL

What she's going to say is something that will take 20 people to decipher because the actual won't cut it.

Friday and Saturday expect the usual "What she meant was..."

:)

[DevonRex]

179. Valerian is nasty smelling stuff. I cannot imagine drinking it. nt

[AlabamaBrightBlueDot]

73. As I said in another thread...

I need to lower my expectations.

[Clear Blue Sky]

80. She is floating all sorts of rumors and scenarios.

Keeps her on the news and the center of attention. Typical Clinton...

[Exilednight]

81. She will not concede, she will suspend in order to pay off her campaign debt. n/t

[Raine]

84. She's making an ASS out of herself. nt

[Why Syzygy]

94. When NIXON resigned ..

I was ignorant of many things political. My mother was up in arms because she feared he might NOT resign, and tell us to all go to hell. Meet the new Nixon, who actually follows through.

[MindMatter]

120. It is pretty bad when you are outclassed by Nixon

and when Nixon outclasses you by a mile, well . . .

[Poll_Blind]

98. Is anyone else reverse-engineering these stories back to, say, yesterday morning?

  It's just nuts. It's like they're at open war in her own campaign about what to do and each of the sides calls the press and tells them something different. Which, in turn, is reversed a few hours later by another member of the campaign.

  From McAuliff's (sp?) comment about her conceding if she didn't get enough votes to his "correcting" his statement and more than one source from the camp saying she will DEFINITELY not concede.

  Then in her speech last night in which she tastelessly refused to admit defeat OR even congradulate Obama for winning the nomination. Her queer call for e-mails from supporters instead of money. And then the comment that she would not make any decisions (last night).

  Reports today that she's going to concede this Friday (from MSNBC, CNN) on the anniversary of RFK's death, then a burst of information from sources inside the campaign saying that essentially an intervention has taken place with SD's and senior staffers to convince her to concede this Friday.

  And then MORE, this time from NPR, which indicated that she would NOT be conceding but suspending...and on and one as more stories come out, contradicting each other across American media.

  I mean, it's fucking bugnuts!

  Public. Meltdown. (and it ain't over!)

PB

[rodeodance]

99. it was unsoursed aides with the last report and the media added and played it up

[dailykoff]

109. The AP story quotes Wolfson. Link in OP. n/t

[HCE SuiGeneris]

124. she has lots of soused aides

[DeschutesRiver]

101. "I am ready on DAY ONE!!" "Maybe DAY TWO!!"

"Wait. I didn't mean that. Depends on what the word ready means. Depends also on how I feel when I get up in the morning. Or if anyone has an intervention scheduled. Or if I need some fucking space people or time to figure out what the hell I am supposed to be doing. Watch the hand - I am feeling pressured. I don't LIKE feeling pressured..."

Yeah, she was definitely the candidate with the experience we need in this country. She STILL isn't ready to concede the obvious. She is a fucking lunatic, and that is now an established fact.

No one will ever take her seriously again. No one. Her political future just went dark for good. I am actually glad to see this being played out in a public forum. Radioactive monster.

[symbolman]

112. Here here!

You Nailed it.. Thank you for that, it needs to be said, and Lunatic IS the Operative word. :)

[Binka]

146. Depends On What Is Is.....Remember Bill?

Samantha was right....MONSTER. Deranged power mad assholes on crack. Will this delusional trailer trash family get lost? They are the definition of FUCKWITTAGE.

[cascadiance]

106. The corporate fascists must be paying her REAL well!

[Fly by night]

108. Does anyone have a net big enough to capture Hill's ego ...

... and put us out of our misery?

This is beginning to feel like "Fatal Attraction".

I think I'll let my Bunnies sleep in the bed with me tonight. (I wish.)

Enough already.

[wvbygod]

126. Try using the clue sheets

instead of the nets. It's a much softer landing.

[Fly by night]

136. What's a "clue sheet"?

That's a new one on me.

[wvbygod]

143. It's like a cue sheet for a play or other acting role

The nets can be metaphoric for the internet and the circus net.

[Binka]

148. Oh You Silly Pretender

The net will trap you nicely as your circus is about to send in the clowns. Sad faced clowns. Poor little pretender. Was it fun for you here? BAAAAAAHHAAAAAAAAA! Jesus you are so obvious.

[wvbygod]

155. I'll have some of what you are smoking

It's not obvious what you are trying to say so please just say it. I'm not up on all the "in" jokes.

[Binka]

170. Oh You Are A Riot! n/t

[Fly by night]

185. Agreed. WTF is he talking about?

[MindMatter]

117. "Expressing support for Obama's campaign" I can't wait

I have an advance copy of her speech.

"Thank you all for coming to see me, Hillary Clinton 2008, today. I know some of you have heard the news that my opponent announced that he has accumulated enough delegates, for now, to win the nomination, assuming those delegates are not assassinated between now and convention time. I think that would be terrible, but you know, things like that have happed throughout our history.

Anyway, you know, I'm here to acknowledge that my opponent made that statement, and I want to be completely unequivocal about this. I fully support his right to make that statement.

Now let me explain to you why I am the best candidate for President ..."

[wvbygod]

118. She is taking the high road. No reason to get excited

At least she is not being rancid and disgusting like daily kos, huffington etc who are
trashing her. She is showing decor and respect for Obama as she should. She can close
out her campaign exactly as she desires to do.

It's the knuckle dragging lowlifes crapping on her and behaving like spoiled children that deserve scorn.

[Binka]

151. Bullshit Sweetheart

Taking the high road would have included acknowledging his victory last night on HIS night. She is lower then a pregnant snake beneath the wheels of an 18 wheeler.

[wvbygod]

158. Damn, that's slicker than a minnow's dick

I believe she did congratulate Obama last night. She will close up shop in her own way.

[ShortnFiery]

162. What "the Clintons" fail to grasp is that THIS is not about THEM. Arrogant TWITS!

I hope they continue to misbehave ... totally trash The Clinton Legacy.

It would be so nice to feel half assed confident in NO FUTURE in the NOTION of a President George P. Bush NOR a VP "Princess Chealsea" Clinton. :puke:

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[wvbygod]

172. First one to resort to personal insults loses

I am not sorry for your loss however.

[ShortnFiery]

164. Bullshit! HRC is "low crawling" through the sewer. HRC refuses to formally ENDORSE.

HRC's lower than whale shit. SNL in their last skit was spot on: HRC: 1) a sore loser; 2) her supporters are often racist; and 3) she has no ethical standards.

[wvbygod]

173. She has not refused...she is doing it differently than you wish

I am sorry you get your "facts" and life lessons from a SNL skit. Getting to know people and
why they hold the beliefs they do can be rewarding. First you must put away the bigotry.

[David Zephyr]

129. I wasn't fooled. I won't be fooled. She's a goddamned liar out to destroy our chances in 2008.

Any Democrat that hopes to win should really be getting sick of this shit.

She's fucking evil.

[Iggo]

134. Whatever. It doesn't matter.

It's Democrats against republicans now.

Obama's running against Grampy McSame...not Hillary Clinton.

That fight is over. The real fight has begun.

[cynatnite]

135. She Is ending her campaign on Friday...That article you posted says so...

a campaign official said she has decided to end her candidacy now that Obama has more than enough delegates to win the long primary race. She scheduled her announcement for Saturday.

[dailykoff]

137. Wolfson: "This event will be held on Saturday"

"Senator Clinton will be hosting an event in Washington, D.C., to thank her supporters and express her support for Senator Obama and party unity. This event will be held on Saturday to accommodate more of Senator Clinton's supporters who want to attend," her communications director Howard Wolfson said.

Nothing about Friday in the article. :shrug:

[cynatnite]

139. Oops...my bad...Saturday not Friday. :) n/t

[IDemo]

142. She's the presumptive concedee

[SoCalDem]

145. So she OWNS them?? Seems to me that a lot of them ARE leaving her

:rofl:..

a modern day "slave-rebellion"?

Better lock the door, Mizzz Hillie, they's 'scapin'..:sarcasm:

[tyedyeto]

149. What the Fuck!!! She LOST as of yesterday.

So, now she wants to draw this out several more days. Is that egotistical or what? Who or what is telling her what to do these days? Mark Penn still? The Repug shill?

[ShortnFiery]

153. Shame on HRC, she won't even *endorse* ... just merely *suspend* her campaign.

HRC's character is lower than whale shit. :puke:

[Arugula Latte]

157. Okay, just when I'm ready to play nice, she's back to Psycho Hillary.

Jesus! :banghead:

[Born_A_Truman]

159. OMG, she has written her own SNL scenes

You can't make this stuff up.

[wvbygod]

174. It would be an improvement over what SNL is doing now

I swear they have hired bigots and hateful staff to run their putrid show now.

[helderheid]

182. I can totally picture an SNL skit where Obama is swearing in and she sneaks up and puts her hand on

the bible and starts whispering along.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

166. What's the difference if it's Friday or Saturday?

n/t

[wvbygod]

175. It gives the Hillary haters an extra day to release their bilge

Their love is all used up on themselves.

[LucyParsons]

181. That's not how I read that article at all.

You're being hyperbolic. It's irresponsible.

[momto3]

183. My understanding was that if she "suspends" her campain, she can still raise money to pay off her

debts. she cannot do this if she concedes. Can anyone correct me if i am wrong? Thanks!

:hi:

[weezie1317]

184. It's standard to suspend and endorse rather than concede. HRC is doing fine here. Let's let her be.