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kwenu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:13 PM
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Can Hillary regain the esteem of the Democratic Party?
It is now clear that Hillary's own top people had to organize help from congressional leaders to push Hillary to concede in the best interests of the party. Many congressional leaders expressed outrage that Hillary has failed to be gracious in conceding and supporting the nominee.

I am disheartened that after years of being a Clinton supporter we have come to this. I hope Hillary can work hard and tenaciously to support our nominee as it will take at least that for her to return to the Democratic fold and regain her esteem.
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wileedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:15 PM
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1. Its going to have to be one hell of a concession speech
The skies might have to open and everything
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BostonMa Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:15 PM
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2. Yes
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pbca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:15 PM
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3. She's not dropping out
From another thread

link to AP story: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=91...

The former first lady told House Democrats during a private conference call Wednesday that she will express support for Barack Obama's candidacy and congratulate him for gathering the necessary delegates to be the party's nominee.

"Senator Clinton will be hosting an event in Washington, D.C., to thank her supporters and express her support for Senator Obama and party unity. This event will be held on Saturday to accommodate more of Senator Clinton's supporters who want to attend," her communications director Howard Wolfson said.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:30 PM
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9. Page not found...
Yes, it's over and she'll say so on Friday.
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pbca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:36 PM
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10. See Below
Clinton Denies Plans to Concede Race to Obama

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=9110605
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:42 PM
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13. Page still not found...
She is conceding on Friday and will endorse Obama. It's accepted fact by pretty much everyone.

Your links aren't working for some reason.
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WillyToad Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 11:52 PM
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21. You just can't let go, can you?
I will never understand how some people find comfort in negativity
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Mezzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:16 PM
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4. I think you need to ask if the dem party can regain the esteem of Hillary's voters.
since there happen to be more of them than there are of Obama's.
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qijackie Donating Member (238 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:21 PM
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6. Agreed. Plus she never lost the esteem of the "Democratic Party" - just because
some supporters of Senator Obama decided she is Satan doesn't mean much in the world outside of DU.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:48 PM
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15. Yep. nt
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:22 PM
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7. 59 million people voted for John Kerry in the 2004 election
17 million voted for Hillary in the primary, and 75%+ of them before Super Tuesday was over (with 40% of California votes being mailed in advance).

You can do the math, no?

If not, raise your hand and someone will stop by and help.
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kwenu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:58 PM
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17. All the more reason for a gracious and speedy exit in support of a unified party.
She should not have to be dragged into it by Democratic leaders who have screamed enough. Hillary is one of those leaders and she has obligations to the party that are bigger than her. That is what is sticking in my craw. It's becoming about her and NOT the best interests of the party.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 12:09 AM
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25. It has always been about what is in it for her.
*sigh*
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:39 PM
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12. Not really
each pledged delegate is representative of roughly the same number of GE voters. That is how they are allocated.
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kwenu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:23 PM
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18. The party is moving on. It would be nice to have Hillary with us.
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BlueJac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:20 PM
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5. An era has ended, and it is a good thing to move forward....
for a better America.
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:28 PM
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8. The Democratic Party has never been unified. The wings were @ war
and I'll call it silly season. BTW, it ain't over 'till the ballots are cast @ the convention ... I stood for office once and know well how it goes.
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kwenu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:37 PM
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11. When it's for the presidency the presumptive nominee damn well better be the nominee.
To fail to do so destroys the party.
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 08:08 AM
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27. Have you ever seen a nominating convention before?
There's a reason we haven't convened a constitutional convention either ... these things have their own dynamic and no, you cannot at this time predict what will happen. True drama, indeed.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:46 PM
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14. She hasn't lost it. DU ain't the party. Half the votes cast were for her.
Edited on Wed Jun-04-08 09:46 PM by onehandle
I didn't support her, but millions of others did.
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x-g.o.p.er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:50 PM
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16. She never lost it
I think this campaign did more damage to the Big Dog than to her. Like someone else said, DU isn't the party. And most of the party greatly admires and respects her for what she has done nad accomplished, but they just preferred another candidate, be it Edwards or Obama.

She might take a hit if she fights this all the way to the convention, but campaigning to the last primary with a chance at the nomination doesn't diminish her. Yes, it would have been difficult for her to overtake Obama, but stranger things have happened in American politics.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 11:33 PM
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19. What portion of the party?
Edited on Wed Jun-04-08 11:33 PM by Beacool
The Obamanation or the weasel party leaders who would sell their mother to be on the winning side?

As for the vast majority of Democrats, at least almost 18M of them, she doesn't need to do a blessed thing because she hasn't lost her "esteem" as far as we are concerned.
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 11:46 PM
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20. Perhaps someone else, but not her.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 11:55 PM
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22. Yeah. Obviously
She is an incredible woman.

And she has helped our nominee rather than hurt him.
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Pisces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 12:08 AM
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23. I don't think so. She sabotaged herself. Tues. speech was the nail in her coffin. If she had
just expressed some graciousness, and not incited her followers with false hope and go to my website b.s. But she is then only one who derailed herself.
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LordJFT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 12:09 AM
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24. yes
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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 12:17 AM
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26. I still adore her.
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