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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 12:15 AM
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What about Hillary for Secretary of Health and Human Services
Michael Leavitt MUST be replaced.

*ush put him in charge of the EPA in 2003 and we know how much has NOT been done by the EPA lately.

Then he got in as Sec of H&HS and went all chicken little about Avian influenza.

But any other accomplishments in this fine cabinet position. Not really.

AND check Controversy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Leavitt

Another guy who thinks he can joyride the private jet on the taxpayer's dime. Never mind that it belongs to the WHOLE CDC and people who actually have REAL Emergencies that require such a mode of transportation.

And of course, financial mis-deeds.



YES. I BELIEVE THIS IS A JOB FOR HILLARY.
This is a SERIOUS position that needs some real SHAKING UP!

Kick that BUM Leavitt out and get a seriously motivated woman in there who cares about people in the United States having healthcare.

Put a NY Senator in charge of making sure the food supply is safe from terrorist threats.
Come'on she can do that with one hand tied behind her back.



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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 12:16 AM
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1. I would be OK with that.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 12:17 AM
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2. I'd like to see her as Senate Majority Leader n/t
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 12:41 AM
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7. I thought of that too, but I think it's more important to replace...
Edited on Thu Jun-05-08 12:42 AM by Tigress DEM
*ush's rethug appointees that are incompetent at best or working cross purpose to what Obama needs to get done or would possibly sabatouge him from within.

Remember how Reagan went behind Carter's back and negotiated with Iran for the hostages IF they would keep them until after the election to make Carter look bad?

Leavitt is in a positon where he could actually plant a bio terror threat and take off with the CDC jet so CDC response is delayed just to make Obamma look bad.

Pelosi may seem a disappointment, but she's a DEM and when we put fire under her butt she does move.



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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 12:43 AM
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8. Not, Pelosi's job...Harry Reid's...
IMO, Hillary would be far more effective than Reid has been. Hillary couldn't take Pelosi's job even if she wanted to. Pelosi is a rep and Reid is a senator.
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 01:08 AM
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12. Case of the late night stupids. Sorry.
But Reid can be effective when he wants to and I think we need the strongest warriors for the cabinet positions.

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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 01:40 AM
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17. I actually would like to see Chris Dodd in that seat. Hell, put Hillary on the SCOTUS.
That's not a bad resume-topper.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 12:17 AM
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3. As long as she's nowhere near the ticket, I'm fine with it.
Edited on Thu Jun-05-08 12:18 AM by BlooInBloo
EDIT: I have no idea what a "ficket" is.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 12:17 AM
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4. Now that is an idea. Have to think on it but first glance I'd go for that.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 12:30 AM
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5. Wait!! Isn't that the position Obama offered her? He said it in his speech.
Edited on Thu Jun-05-08 12:31 AM by vaberella
It seems no one paid attention. But I picked up on it. In his speech he offered her a position. He said that and I will quote verbatim.

Obama: And you can rest assured that when we finally win the battle for universal health care in this country, she will be central to that victory. When we transform our energy policy and lift our children out of poverty, it will be because she worked to help make it happen.

I stand by that offered position. Although I'm not a fan of her healthcare plan...However her goal has always been supportive of health care. I figured in this part of Obama's speech on June 3rd he was offering her that position.
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 12:56 AM
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9. Not exactly.
I believe he was speaking to the fact that Hillary has been fighting for Universal Healthcare and he was honoring everything that has gone before and her indominable spirit.

But you can't offer a cabinet position to a person who hasn't conceded her run for the Presidential nomination is over yet.

I think he may have been dangling the proverbial carrot and offering it in every way except actually saying it. He was definately offering her some position that would make use of her drive and passion in that area.

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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 12:31 AM
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6. Hmmm...1994?!! Hillarycare... After consideration..I won't suggest it.
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 01:05 AM
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10. Actually if you DON'T like her plan this is a better place for her.
She would be in charge of health care and could make significant contributions within the framework of her legal jurisdiction of the current law at the time.

However, as Senator she can write up bills with particulars and push for them with the same fevor she has been using in the run against Obamma.

It gives her a big piece of the pie but she is directly responsible to Obamma and he can toss her on her butt if she misues her office.

Best of all worlds the more I think about it.

If she is sincere she will be the best Sec of H&HS ever because the overall momentum is in favor of a breakthrough in this area.

If she chooses to play political games, she can lose a lot.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 01:06 AM
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11. Hillarycare...have you been reading drudge or listenign to Rush?
Edited on Thu Jun-05-08 01:06 AM by cynatnite
That's a RW nutjob term.
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 01:17 AM
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13. True, but it's also a label that goes with her legacy. True or not.
And I agree with you, it doesn't really mean beans as far as what will happen going forward. Much as we'd like to we can't just trash the whole insurance industry.

There will have to be some sort of phase in to make the transition doable. I don't think we will have a bright shinny new health care that makes everyone giddy with happiness right away as much as a shift toward making it happen bit by bit and having each stage take away more of what is NOT working out there right now.

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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 01:35 AM
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14. I always trash the insurance industry...
they're sharks looking to steal as much money as they can. Considering that providing health care for all was something she supported before most anyone else I think she had the right idea. It was great to see and I hoped something would come of it.

I do agree it will have to be bit by bit. I'd like to see them start with providing preventative care for children.

'Hillarycare' is a crappy label that the repukes use. I hate seeing our side use it despite the fact that it does not apply.
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 02:48 AM
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19. Bit by bit was the point.. glad you got that.
It's just that right now the insurance industry does hold a lot of people up and if we topple it, they come too.

Have to surgically remove the malignant growth and toss it away carefully so it doesn't crawl back up and attach itself elsewhere.
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 01:39 AM
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15. How about head of The Postal Service?
Or The Red Cross? :shrug:
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 02:55 AM
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22. SOME of those 18 million voters would be highly offended.
Don't think it's an offer that would resolve this.

:grouphug:

Party unity is what we are after, but she blew her chances at VP by thumbing her nose at him.

Whoever her adviser is should be horsewhipped. If she's coming up with this on her own she really needs to get on the clue bus and stay on the high road from here on out.

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WA98070 Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 01:39 AM
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16. I thought Obama was about to announce that he was offering it to her in his speech last night.
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 02:51 AM
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21. And if she had endorsed him then he could have..but how
do you offer someone who is still running for presidential nominee anything until the competition is "officially" over?

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jsmirman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 01:48 AM
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18. Works for me
SC is as out of the question as VP
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 02:58 AM
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23. Confused. If it works for you, why did you say...

"SC is as out of the question as VP"

Do you mean either would be good and VP isn't out of the question?

Or that it won't be offered?
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jsmirman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 03:05 AM
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24. Your suggestion is the one I favor. I think she'll get it right this time.
She's come a long way since her first try, recent events notwithstanding.

As to the other stuff, I'm saying I might even be *more* outraged to see her put forth as a potential SC Justice. As a future lawyer, that would be truly unacceptable to me.
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mystieus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 02:50 AM
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20. I like it.
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 03:47 AM
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25. That position is reserved for Dr. Howard Dean.
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