Dear Mr Bush/McCain: Go Fuck Yourselves, Blessings on you, the Iraqi Parliment

[grantcart]

A majority of Iraqi Parliamentarians: Agreement must have full withdrawal with a timetable and no bases

Members of the Iraqi Parliament have sent a letter to Congress which states that they want a complete withdrawal of American troops from Iraq and a scheduled withdrawal, completely undermining all of President Bush and Senator McCain's argument for a prolonged military involvement with an unending commitment in Iraq.

They want every single American out with a time table to more surge, escalation or long term occupation.

here is their statement

In a public briefing in Chairman Delahunt's subcommittee on June 4, two Iraqi Parliamentarians whose parties are among those listed s signatories affirmed that this letter was signed by members of the Iraqi Parliament on behalf of parties representing a majority of the 275 members.

In the name of God, the Merciful, the Compassionate

To: Madam Speaker of the United States House of Representatives, Sirs and Madam Members of the United States of America Congress and Senate.

From: Remarks on the agreements between the Iraqi Republic and the United States of America


Peace and blessing be upon you.

Based on the numerous hearings held by your parliament with regards to the agreement that the executive powers of Iraq and the United States are determine to sign;

We, the undersigned members of the council, wish to confirm your concerns that any international agreement that is not ratified by the Iraqi legislative power is considered unconstitutional and illegal, in accordance with the current rulings and laws of the Iraqi Republic. Furthermore, any treaty, agreement or "executive agreement" that is signed between Iraq and the United States will not be legal and will not enter the stage of implementation without first being ratified by the Council of Representatives, which gives the Iraqi government's legislative power, represented by the Council of Representatives, the exclusive right to ratify international treaties and agreements.

Likewise, we wish to inform you that the majority of Iraqi representatives strongly reject any military-security, economic, commercial, agricultural , investment or political agreement with the United States that is not linked to clear mechanisms that obligate the occupying American military forces to fully withdraw from Iraq, in accordance with a declared timetable and without leaving behind any military bases, soldiers or hired fighters.

The Iraqi Council of Representatives is looking to ratify agreements that end every form of American intervention in Iraq's internal affairs and restore Iraq's Independence and sovereignty over its land.

link with signatories http://www.politico.com/static/PPM43_080604_iraqparliamentltr6408.html

[eridani]

1. And here's what prompted that reaction--

http://www.gulfnews.com/region/Iraq/10218150.html

A proposed Iraqi-American security agreement will include permanent American bases in the country, and the right for the United States to strike, from within Iraqi territory, any country it considers a threat to its national security, Gulf News has learned.

Senior Iraqi military sources have told Gulf News that the long-term controversial agreement is likely to include three major items.

Under the agreement, Iraqi security institutions such as Defence, Interior and National Security ministries, as well as armament contracts, will be under American supervision for ten years.

The agreement is also likely to give American forces permanent military bases in the country, as well as the right to move against any country considered to be a threat against world stability or acting against Iraqi or American interests.

[grantcart]

2. 2 minutes - what kept you lol very nice.

With the Clinton soap opera taking the air out of the building its hard to get any news in.

Just for the record the message was sent May 29th so it probably responding to negotiations that it had heard about.

[Aloha Spirit]

3. What a beautiful day. Sounds like Iraqis are following our elections just as much as the rest of the

world, and follow our politics a lot closer than most of us Americans!

[grantcart]

5. Yes they wanted to get in the fun and play I want to be a Super Delegate too

And they wanted to vote for the candidate that will help them out of their nightmare.

[Aloha Spirit]

8. Well... if primary delegates were handed out based on fraction of the federal budget, Iraq would get

a few more of super D's than Puerto Rico, me thinks :hi:

[Aloha Spirit]

10. er... not to imply that the Iraq war is an entitlement program or anything.

[grantcart]

24. lol

[Aloha Spirit]

49. ..

[The Magistrate]

4. One Hardly Knows Whether To Laugh Or Cry, Sir

[grantcart]

11. that can mean only one thing Sir

you are still in GDP

[bridgit]

6. Rut Roh! "Fool me once...fool me...can't get fooled again"

[Aloha Spirit]

9. ha! perfection.

[Tatiana]

7. Even the Bush-endorsed Iraqi parliament is telling the right-wingers to get the F out.

If only our Congress would do the same...

GO IRAQIS.

[grantcart]

28. and they want this because they think it will make them more or less secure?

[Tatiana]

47. Heh. MORE secure. n/t

[opihimoimoi]

12. The Tongan Lawyers hired did a good job writing this stuff for the Iraqis

Loud and Clear, they have stymied the BushCo/GOP in one fell swoop...

As Camel traders for centuries, they know when they are being conned....Good for the Spines in advising the Bush Guys of the decision.

[grantcart]

15. Living in Thailand I had the chance to sit next to a Thai lawyer who had just

drafted their constituion. Another lawyer from the US said that he admired it and thought it was an especially gifted document.

He seemed to have been really surprised that a Thai would be so good at writing one. The American made a reference to that and the Thai said well why shouldn't it be good, it was my 6th one.

[opihimoimoi]

16. LOL...meaning he had a lot of practice.....

[grantcart]

23. This statement by Iraqi Parliamentarians seem to be a response to the 'secret' plan to maintain base

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3339394

[Aloha Spirit]

13. I just figured out one reason why this makes me so deliriously happy.

For years, we've been saying that the Iraqis need to stand up for themselves.
Can you imagine?
And now, their flawed government is standing up, not only for themselves, but to us.

[grantcart]

14. It just works on so many levels - its like that hot dog at the park that

keeps interacting with the pizza and pretzel you ate and has distended your esophagus so that everything keeps going up and down like an eleveator giving you a unique after taste of fast food and gastric juices. And it has the same remedy - more beer.

But here is what I am thinking about in my head as I head off to bed.

What does John McCain thinking about it?

Condi Rice.


I am amazed that this hasn't hit the news though.

[uponit7771]

26. The corporate media wont report something like this, it paints a bad light on BushCo's opersations

[chknltl]

17. This belongs high on greatest page!

America, the Government of Iraq has joined in with the voices of it's citizens, the very voices that have been screaming out with their tears and blood: YANKEE GO HOME!

[blonndee]

18. Done. K&R.

[ClayZ]

19. K and R

[Monk06]

20. Carlyle, Haliburton, Blackwater, Exxon, Conoco Philips and the rest of the bandits

will not sit around for that. Compared to the
US in Iraq the Russians let Chzecoslovakia
off pretty easy in 1956.

[grantcart]

29. Do you mean Hungary in 56 or Czech in 68?

[Monk06]

51. Got my history wrong. The Iraq situation would probably best fit the invasion of Hungary in 1956.

[tbyg52]

21. They are supposedly a sovereign country. They want us out.

We should leave. End of story.

[Liberal Dose]

22. I am surprised the Iraqi government has not asked the UN to help them oust the occupiers

Iraq could do that, right? They've been invaded and want their country back. We have much in common.

[uponit7771]

25. Because of Iraqs ties to Iran Iraqi parliment will NEVER let them do this

[grantcart]

34. umm ???

[WeDidIt]

27. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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[WeDidIt]

30. I'm kicking this

[grantcart]

32. thanks

[EstimatedProphet]

31. Good for them!

Why should we be an occupying power?

[JimGinPA]

33. Bbbbbbut... Gen. Petraeus Says...

:rofl:


K&R

[grantcart]

35. I wonder what he is thinking about this - seiously

[Aloha Spirit]

36. Come on team! We can do better than 15 recs!

MSNBC and CNN only report on threads that get at least 30 recs.
Rec!
Rec now!

[grantcart]

38. thanks beat tk

I gotta go for the rest of the day so I leave this thread with you lol

[Aloha Spirit]

46. ...

[Ikonoklast]

37. I want the Iraqi People to be our friends and allies.

We need to help them rebuild their savaged nation, a new Marshall Plan to build schools, hospitals, water sanitation, power delivery.....

It is the only way to repay them for the grievous harm we have so willfully inflicted upon the population.


We do not need to intimidate them.
We do not need to punish them further for the actions of a few.
We do not need to create a generation of radical militants in response to an occupying force.

We should respect the wishes of the legitimate, democratically elected government of a sovereign nation.

[kenny blankenship]

39. And so the Great Gamble in Mesopotamia is now, formally and forever, a FAILURE

Slapped that banana out of Chimpy's hand they did.

[Aloha Spirit]

43. Mess O'Potamia!

[Hell Hath No Fury]

40. A big "Fuck You" to the US....

and I love it! :D Good on them, maybe they can make something of this clusterfuck after all.

[Aloha Spirit]

41. If politics is the sstematic organization of our hatreds*, then it looks like they're doing fine!

*Reference to George Will's Colbert interview
http://www.comedycentral.com/colbertreport/videos.jhtml?episodeId=170986

[Hell Hath No Fury]

55. Hey, if being pissed off at the US is what...

unifies that poor country, I'm all for it! :D

[bluerum]

64. A big FU to a US led invasion and hand over of sovereignty. Me thinks

that they would like to stay on friendly terms for the long haul. That is, until the US installed puppet regime is completely dismantled.

[futureliveshere]

42. K&R.. Good to see!! Now grow a spine Maliki and do what your country wants.

[PermanentRevolution]

44. This really does undermine the entire Republican strategy for Iraq

The Iraqi parliament doesn't want us there. If the Republicans favor maintaining a military presence against the wishes of the government THEY established, what does that say about their attitudes towards the "free and democratic Iraq," the establishment of which has been so often touted as the real reason for our invasion?

[Aloha Spirit]

45. This does put the administration in quite the briar patch!

[chknltl]

48. Kick

[crickets]

50. Kick

[phrigndumass]

52. Kick ... Let's get out of Iraq, pronto

[Imagevision]

53. Apparently Mccain doesn't stay current on Iraq events, McCain> "we're winning, we're winning?!

[RainDog]

54. Bring Our Troops Home NOW!

and charge W and Cheney and Addington and Gonzales and Feith, etc. with WAR CRIMES. And then.. well, I cannot say what I think, but I know the traditional punishment for such people.

[Aloha Spirit]

56. This thread's about to get a good kick in the rear.

:kick:

[grantcart]

57. tks

[MasonJar]

58. Thank you, Iraqis! Why should the USA control your assets? That would

be very Bushian and, therefore, of course criminal. Stand strong and we will try to assure that our Congress does likewise.

[boomerbust]

59. The boys on Wall Street

got the message also. Dow down 350

[grantcart]

61. welcome to du

[windoe]

60. K & R Just skip the pResident and go right for the congress & senate~

with his impending arrest and all....:thumbsup:

[bertman]

62. They gotta be holdin out for more US "aid" $$,$$$,$$$

What makes anybody think a bunch of dumbass Iraqis could think for themselves.

Everybody knows they need us to teach them how a democracy works.

Like in Florida in 2000.

And Ohio in '04.

Ingrates!

[bluerum]

63. ungrateful bastards

jic

:sarcasm:

[DailyGrind51]

65. I doubt if the "average American" even knows about this deal

or can even speculate about the implications of America's continued occupation of a country against the wishes of its governing body. We have become the old "Soviet Union"!

[Born_A_Truman]

66. C-Span carried this...

The International Organizations, Human Rights and Oversight Subcommittee of the House Foreign Affairs Committee held a briefing titled "Iraqi Parliament's Perspective on U.S.-Iraqi Relations" with members of the Iraqi Parliament to hear their assessment of the proposed U.S.-Iraq Security Agreement. The new security agreement is intended to replace the current United Nations Security Council resolutions authorizing the United States to engage in combat operations in Iraq which would expire at the end of the year.

Watch here:

http://www.c-spanarchives.org/library/index.php?main_page=product_video_info&products_id=205824-1

Hope this link works. I was half asleep and saw this discussion on C-Span early Friday morning. Why isn't the MSM covering this story?