Obama & Feinstein or Obama & Clinton

[David Zephyr]

First, Barbara Boxer is my first choice followed by John Kerry to be Obama's VP.

Having said that, Senator Feinstein is really respected also and would deliver Florida in a heartbeat to Obama.

No one needs to rattle on about the negatives of Feinstein.

I'm just curious as to who would poll better here as a VP at this moment IF the choice were only between these two.

Hillary of Dianne.

[jgraz]

1. Shit, why not just have him pick Lieberman?

Or maybe Geraldine Ferraro?

FEIN$TEIN??? You gotta be kidding me.

[orleans]

2. agree. n/t

[David Zephyr]

5. I'm only asking the question.

I know the downsides of Feinstein quite well. My posts in the archives chronicle my thinking. That said, I think she will wind up on a short list along with Boxer (who endorsed Obama today)
So I just wanted to weigh the DU between these two women powerhouses within the Party. I'm advocating neither.

[invictus]

43. Exactly.

n/t

[orleans]

3. sorry--can't vote here. the choices are too grim. n/t

[David Zephyr]

14. I knew this would be a gun to the head question, but I'm curious.

I think Dianne will outpoll Hillary here.

[cynatnite]

4. Why not Chelsea Clinton as VP?

I mean if you're going to offer Feinstein, then Chelsea makes about as much sense, too.

[DrZeeLit]

6. Yuck to "all of the above." Could we think outside the Box(er)? Geez.

[lob1]

7. You need to add Bride of Chucky for the trifecta.

[Cha]

9. You made me laugh..

and now I really have say goodnight:D

[David Zephyr]

13. Now don't go dissing the Chucky movies.

LOL.

[dkf]

8. Of all the female politicians I have seen Feinstein has the most gravitas.

[David Zephyr]

11. That's probably true.

She's not my favorite Senator here in the Golden State, but she holds a lot of respect within Washington, the media. She would deliver Florida.

[dkf]

15. Yeah, I don't always agree with her, but I always respect her.

[newmajority]

10. "A choice of cancer or polio"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGO-YrfLsPQ

Seriously, none of the above.

[Raine]

12. YUCK, neither of them

:puke:

[Bonn1997]

16. John Kerry is your 2nd choice??? nt

[David Zephyr]

26. Actually he is. He's been a close advisor to Barack and would be an electoral boost.

That's just my opinion. Barack has a lot of great choices.

As a Californian, I would be thrilled to see Senator Boxer on the ticket.

[frog92969]

17. Is this a joke?

:wtf:

[lligrd]

18. Where Is Neither? Obama and Boxer Great

but Feinstein and Hillary are one in the same.

[David Zephyr]

23. That's a poll tomorrow.

I was just curious about this.

[Catherina]

19. Congratulations David. You have finally put up a poll where I vote Clinton

If there's one thing worse than voting for war and clusterbombs, it's war profiteering.

[David Zephyr]

25. Yes.

Well, of course I know all about Dianne's husband and his business, her IWR vote and more. I think you know me well enough to know she would not be a choice of mine, but between these two, I wanted to check the pulse here.

Actually, I voted for Dianne over Hillary in this poll.

Tomorrow, I'll put up Boxer vs Hillary. Of course, Barbara is my first choice to be VP which I think most here know.

[Catherina]

56. Boxer vs Clinton will make it a lot easier on me. In this poll

you basically gave me a choice between drinking rat poison and chlorox.

[ellisonz]

20. Neither.

[Skidmore]

21. Neither.

And he needs to go somewhere beyod the Senate to find a VP. Someone from outside of DC.

[MrModerate]

22. Feinstein? No. No! NO! NO!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Huge disappointment her entire career. To the right of Joe Lieberman. Compromised spouse. But worst of all, a moral weakling.

[TexasObserver]

24. Neither. They're both terrible choices.

[Doug.Goodall]

27. I would hate to lose the senior senator from California

Dianne Feinstein would put some much needed force behind gun control efforts in Washington. The Democrats seem to have lost interest in putting an end to gun crimes, and I would hope senator Feinstein could be a positive influence in bringing back the assault rifle ban.

[Ganja Ninja]

29. We need to keep as many Democrats in the Senate as we can.

We can't take a half a dozen or more Senators to pack the cabinet and VP slot and still control the Senate.

[Ikonoklast]

46. And for that reason alone, the ticket is a loser

Feinstein doesn't poll very well ten miles after she crosses the state border.

[Ganja Ninja]

28. Neither.

[catgirl]

30. neither

[babylonsister]

31. NEITHER. nt

[Honeycombe8]

32. Why would you think Feinstein would deliver FL? She's from CA. nt

[monomach]

33. There really needs to be a "none of t he above" option.

It's like asking whether I'd choose to eat Cat crap or dog crap.

I'd prefer to starve.

[Carolina]

34. NEITHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ladjf]

35. Is this a joke?

The Clinton idea is bad. But, the Feinstein is worse.

If gender is the issue, there are several highly qualified women in American politics.

[shadowknows69]

36. Bamboo under my fingernails

You forgot the torture option.

[harun]

37. NEITHER.

[tpsbmam]

38. Good lord....none of the above (including Kerry!) n/t

[DemocratSinceBirth]

39. Your Premise Is Incorrect

"Having said that, Senator Feinstein is really respected also and would deliver Florida in a heartbeat to Obama."

As someone who has lived in the Sunshine State for thirty eight years and worked on several state wide campaigns IMHO she brings little to the ticket...Obama is already strong with the groups she is strong...For a Dem to win the state of Florida he or she must rack up huge majorities in the South, play to a draw in Central Florida, and avoid getting shut out in the mostly conservative northern part of the state...There are liberal pockets in the northern part of the state like Tallahassee and Gainesville but they are dwarfed by Jacksonville and the Panhandle which is really southern Alabama...

If I was Senator Obama I would not waste money on Florida unless I am flush to make McCain spend money here...

[SteveM]

40. Neither. Feinstein is an obsessive prohibitionist: guns and pot.

[invictus]

41. Neither

n/t

[BlooInBloo]

42. lol!

[PassingFair]

44. Neither.

Can't vote.

There isn't a lesser evil.

Well, at the point of a gun,
I guess I'd go with Hillary....

[nolabels]

54. As a protection and considering that the Dems would be shoe-ins.......

then as a insurance policy Obama should pick someone much to left of him so those gun-happy right-wing wacko's will have a reason for keeping them holstered :-)

[Thrill]

45. If Obama picks a woman. Its going to be one who has been there with him from the begining

Napolitano, McCaskill, or Sebelius.

[NikolaC]

47. Neither

Feinstein has betrayed her base too many times with her turncoat votes and Hillary, well . . .

[Political Heretic]

48. These are terrible choices.

So, neither.

[Terran]

49. Sorry, neither one

And I don't know why you think DiFi would "deliver" Florida--merely because of her name?

[Mass]

50. Fine for Boxer. No to the two other ones.

While Kerry would be my first choice, he is not in the game here as he is running for reelection in MA and cannot run for the two seats at the same time (MA constitution).

If I really have to choose, if Bill could enter a prolonged voluntary coma for the next 8 years, it woul d be Hillary, otherwise Diane, but really there are other women that I would prefer to them, like Napolitano or Patty Murray.

[Skwmom]

51. I wouldn't want to be the only person standing between corporations and trillions of dollars.

I don't think I'd want an "I'll play ball with the corporations" VP.

[SoxFan]

52. A woman running mate?

Obama/Lincoln!

Blanche, that is.

Fiscal conservative, co-founder of the Blue Dogs, popular senator from a winnable southern state, rural roots, good campaigner, mother of twins, about same age as Obama. Appeals to conservativve rural Dems while not stepping on Obama's message of a fresh start.

Disclosure: I volunteered for Blanche in her 1998 race, and she gave us passes at the 2004 national convention. I'm not exactly unbiased!

[treestar]

53. Hillary

The Hillary supporters are very passionate and hard working. Picking another woman is too alienating.

Hillary made a good run to second. VP is appropriate for that.

[cloudythescribbler]

55. Boxer ABSOLUTELY, but if not her, then another WOMAN who NEVER supported the Iraq War Resolution!

Kerry isn't EITHER. If it is to be a male, at least a male who OPPOSED IWR when the war was a POPULAR policy. Remember those days? I do.

Bob Graham is possibly the ONLY candidate who would better help Obama carry Florida than CA Sen Boxer. MI Sen Stabenow voted NO on IWR and might seriously overpower the GOP in the region, and w/ the working class whites supposedly "alienated" by Obama. (Clinton was the only Democrat in DECADES to win this demographic -- BY ONE PERCENTAGE POINT in the GE). W/Stabenow, Obama might outperform that, and overwhelm the Repubs, while Boxer (my guess here) would help with the swing voters among suburban women and w/whites over 60 who aren't die-hard conservatives.

Boxer is not only highly competent, but has LOTS of appeal and no serious baggage AFAIK.

[demokatgurrl]

57. Neither. Feinstein is barely a Dem any more.

Boxer is definitely the best choice but she won't take it.
Clinton would be fine. As long as whoever it is helps him to win.

[EnviroBat]

58. Neither.

[Moochy]

59. A Vote I will abstain from

yikes not much of a choice

[truebrit71]

60. How about NEITHER?

..

[L0oniX]

61. None of the above. n/t

[NorthCarolina]

62. This is a joke right?

the thought of either of those two makes me want to :puke:

[Owl]

63. Neither.

[windbreeze]

64. NEITHER...let him make his own choice....

he's run a great campaign...do we not trust him to pick someone for his VP????wb

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

65. Either would be a deal breaker.

[HughBeaumont]

66. Feinswine is a Repuke in Dems clothing. Always has been.

From her tenure as San Fran's mayor to Senator, there's rarely a detrimental legislation she'll say "no" to.

[PM7nj]

67. If it was between then two of them, I would most definitely take Hillary.

Hillary is 1000x better than Feinstein.

[Poll_Blind]

68. Push Poll! n/t

PB

[crankychatter]

69. I can't get excited about Feinstein or Clinton - nt

seriously

[Hart2008]

70. Why not add Geraldine Ferraro? She has the experience of being the VP nominee before.

Like Yogi said, "It's deja vu all over again."