Hillary, Dear, you do NOT have 18 million "supporters". There are 18mil people who voted for you

[KittyWampus]

big difference.

You see, 18 million SUPPORTERS means they'd have sent you a check. Maybe not a big check, but something.

If you had 18 million ardent supporters, as opposed to voters who simply pulled the lever for you, you wouldn't be so far in debt.

And if, out of the 18 million voters who cast ballots for you, a very large percentage were NEW voters who you and your organization went out and registered and got fired up, maybe more of the elected Democratic pols who are super delegates would have gotten behind you.

Finally dear Hillary, I think you need to realize that those 18 million voters were brought out using pre-existing Democratic party machinery. You had no experience building infrastructure and didn't have anyone working for you who did. (Prime example, your crony Terry McAuliffe presided over the continued decay of the Democratic Party ).

Please stop pretending you have 18 million supporters who are that invested in you or your campaign.

Edit-what you've got behind you now Hillary, the ones who would prefer to support your Quixotic quest to Denver, are the women who refuse to vote for a man, bigots who refuse to vote for a bi-racial candidate and probably a few socially liberal hawks who appreciate the extent you'd obliterate Iran.

[cynatnite]

1. It's sad seeing so much energy wasted on trashing Hillary when she's not even the nominee n/t

[KittyWampus]

3. it's sad to see so many millions spent in the primary that could have gone towards defeating McCain

it's sad to see Republican attack ads featuring Hillary trashing Obama

It's also sad to hear her surrogates STILL puffing up her failed candidacy to cover for her abhorrent behavior.

[cynatnite]

6. It's sad to see that some would rather focus on the past and unable to move on...

:eyes:

Get a grip. Hillary lost. It's time to get Obama in the WH. Being obsessed with Hillary does not help Obama.

[KittyWampus]

11. Rebuting the crap her surrogate are STILL spouting isn't "obsession". Clintons stab people

in the back. It's their MO. It's how they operate.

There's a good chance, considering their history, that Hillary and Bill and a few of their surrogates WILL undermine Obama.

This talking point Hillary and her surrogates are bringing up about Hillary's mythical 18 million supporters is being pushed for a reason.

And that reason is NOT about getting Obama elected.

[cynatnite]

16. Keep obsessing if you like. n/t

[symbolman]

19. Hes trying to shut down threads

same message on many of them, some folks are starting to wonder.. Maybe he can quit shitting in everyone else's and start his own?

Pay no mind, you are Correct!

[AlinPA]

20. Can you blame some Democrats for being just a little teeny,teeny bit angry

for this RNC ad? I'm not bashing, just trying to see how Clinton can help with the problem of things like this ad. There will be more.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2DECDKOFnw

[mohc]

4. Wait....you would rather people be trashing the nominee?

The expectation that the attacks would stop once Clinton dropped out, or at the very least signaled she would drop out, are quite silly. Anyone who thinks things have been unbalanced either here in DU or out in the media as far coverage of Clinton and Obama, the next few weeks will be much worse. Democrats will rally to Obama, and attacks on him will lessen. With less push back, the attacks against Clinton will probably reach their highest levels. There is no worry about damaging Clinton now as she will not be the nominee. It may not be fair or just, but it is just how things work.

[cynatnite]

8. It's time to move on...

trashing Clinton helps no one. It does not help Obama and it does not beat McCain.

Focusing all this hatred on HIllary does not help Obama or does it beat McCain. Seems to me that folks who still attack Hillary are totally wasting their time and they care more about hating her than helping Obama.

[DontTreadOnMe]

10. I guess...

I have my own timetable for letting down my hatred for Hillary.

She took a dump on Obama's historical moment... I guess I need a little more time.

[Zodiak]

39. We all do

And that time-table is a concession speech.

Until then, I will treat her just like I have seen her. She is employing delaying tactics and relying on our enablement so she can shove a knife between Barack's ribs.

I do not trust her and plan on giving her a rhetorical lashing until she has removed herself from the ballot. Not one minute sooner.

If you think I am wasting my time, then thanks for the opinion, but kiss off. I don't change strategy just because some yahoo thinks it is unproductive in their little universe. She is a back-stabber, quite famous for it, actually. I will treat her as such.

[mohc]

21. Just as Clinton has needed time to move on

Those that have opposed her need time too. Clinton has been resisting the inevitable for some time now, and she had every right to do so. Now with her resistance gone, those that have been against her will need some time to come to terms with it. It may not serve a greater purpose, but neither did the way Clinton finished this campaign. Hopefully Clinton's opponents do not need nearly as long to get their "hatred" out of their system as Clinton needed, or we will in fact be wasting valuable time. In a few weeks most of this will die down and everyone can refocus on the general campaign, but you can not just expect the primary do come to an immediate stop.

[butterfly77]

32. Yeah,tell hillary that...

and lanny davis and bob johnson HILLARY WILL NOT BE THE VP!

[Shae]

42. Has she conceded yet ?

No. When she concedes then it's time to move on.
And that being said, I have a problem with the self-centeredness she displays when it takes her 4 days to work up to saying, "I concede."

And just so you know, critcism of Hillary does not neecessarily equate to "Hillary hate."

[KittyWampus]

this isn't even an "attack". It's a rebuttal to Hillary and her surrogates incessant assertion

Hillary has 18 million strongly committed supporters who ardently follow her.

[L0oniX]

30. Incessant surrogate assertion like this one?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6279354&mesg_id=6279810

[DontTreadOnMe]

9. It's even worse to see the GOP using Hillary's words

against the Democratic nominee.

History will not be kind to the Clintons. Bill had just about repaired his legacy,
but now they have sullied both their reputations and potential have hurt any future campaigns for Hillary.

How could Hillary ever run again? She couldn't even win a primary.
It looks like Gore or Kerry would be ahead of Hillary on any list of running again for President.

[cynatnite]

15. Well, she won California, New York, New Jersey and Massachusetts

plus a string of other states so I wouldn't say she can't win a primary.

Another thing is that it wouldn't have matter who won the nomination the repukes will use anyone's words to score political points. Since she lost it doesn't make for even a convincing campaign tactic.

Thirdly...who the hell cares. Why does it even matter. She lost. It's time to move on and help Obama. None of this does.

[Kittycat]

29. And if california voted today - Obama would win over her.

That's what happens when you run a pandering, only in the moment, gas tax-type campaign.

[GalleryGod]

hat's what the latest,highly respected, Field Poll tells us.

Game.Set.Match.:patriot:

[GalleryGod]

38. That's what the latest,highly respected, Field Poll tells us.

Game.Set.Match.:patriot:

[GalleryGod]

37. Bill's "dealings" since 2001 cannot pass the Forensic Accountants "Smell Test"

Game.Set.Match.
Ghost.Vapor. In the Archives. Catcha-Cab, Folks!:patriot:

[symbolman]

17. hey, here you are doing the same stuff, "oh poor Hillary, this is all a waste of time.."

How many threads do you invade to spread the good cheer on? Seems like we are all getting the treatment, how's about you start a thread with this opinion and pass the word that way?

Subtle, but curious.

[MyNameGoesHere]

2. In your attempt to speak for former HRC supporters you have failed. n/t

[Saturday]

5. Just stop this flamebaiting. nt

[union_maid]

7. Hey, I voted for Kerry in '04

Clark was the one I supported, with what I could donate and by working for his campaign. I was a supporter by any definition. By the time we voted he was out of it. Kerry was either the presumptive nominee by then or close. In any case there really wasn't a question. I went out and voted for Kerry even though he wasn't my choice and it meant NOTHING at that point, just because the primary was part of the process that I hoped and believed would remove Bush from office. In Hillaryland I would be counted as a Kerry supporter in the primary, which I really wasn't, although I certainly was in the general.

[Adelante]

13. Ditto on all counts

:hi:

[QC]

12. What is the purpose of this? n/t

[hayu_lol]

14. OK, if it is a given that Hillary has 18,000,000 voters...

in lieu of 18,000,000 avid supporters, how does that compare with the number of votes received by Obama?

Many of his 'supporters' were those who bought buttons and pennants and stuff at his Obama Yard Sales...and made the mistake of putting their names and addresses down so that they could be listed as supporters.

How quickly they forget.

[Independent-Voter]

33. Veruca is also 20 Million in debt, while Obama is bringing in monies from 1.5 million+ donors.

Now what were you blabbering about "supporters" again?

[Marie26]

18. It's over.

Just in case you didn't hear. No need to continue the trashing, beyond petty satisfaction.

[KittyWampus]

23. in case you didn't notice, Hillary is asserting she has a committed voting block

of 18 million supporters.

That isn't conducive to Unity within the Democratic party.

It IS consistent with the patented brand of Clinton arm-twisting.

[Marie26]

43. Right now she's asserting that Obama is the nominee,

She's supporting & endorsing him, and ending her campaign. I could see the criticism yesterday, when she hadn't said whether she would end the campaign or not. But now, it's OVER. There's no reason to continue the bashing.

[TeamJordan23]

22. Someone needs to tell this to the media also; she does not have as much leverage as they think. nm

[DrDan]

24. I guess you missed the news . . .

[KittyWampus]

26. I see reality. Hillary has only a TINY core of voters who will stick with her. Bigots & Sexist women

who want to vote for ANY woman.

[DrDan]

31. that is such a hate-driven thing to say

I did not vote for her. But - millions did. And to belittle them - the ones that continue to see a hero in her -just highlights your Clinton-hatred.

Time to move on.

[Independent-Voter]

35. Reality's a b*itch, ain't it? Poll after poll showed that HRC's supporters, especially in Appalacia

had a real problem with voting for ANYONE who happened to be black. Get your head out of the sand.

Did all her voters feel like that? Of course not, but it would be willfully ignorant to deny that a sizable number weren't ignorant racists.

[DrDan]

40. there are similar biases for any candidate

how many voted for Obama because they would never vote for a woman.

How many would never vote for a lawyer.

How many would never vote for a catholic.

Don't tell me to get my head out of the sand. Recognize their are bigots everywhere.

Read the post I was responding to - "Hillary has only a TINY core of voters who will stick with her. Bigots & Sexist women who want to vote for ANY woman."

Do you believe that? If so - have the guts to say so. Your response to me indicates you do.

[Independent-Voter]

41. Sure Most of her voters will cool off & vote for Obama. Her Bitter Racist Bunch? Doubtful. Fuck em.

[DrDan]

44. every candidate has that same rabid following

[sufrommich]

25. Hillary had plenty of supporters in her primary run...

enough that Obama is not interested in trashing them as some of his supporters are.

[KittyWampus]

28. big difference between supporters and voters. And this thread is about the bogus claim

Hillary is making that ALL the people who voted for her were enthusiast supporters and who remain committed to her as a solid group.

[Dark]

27. Chill out. We have a nominee now, there's no point in attacking her.

n/t

[hayu_lol]

36. Chill out yourself...

there is no nominee at this time.

You have to wait and hold your breath for a bit longer.

[Stephanie]

47. Pointing out facts is not attacking her.

And this isn't over until she gets off the STAGE.

[GalleryGod]

34. According to Exit Polls: that 18 by math is down to 8 million this a.m.

And evaporating =Fast !:patriot:

[cascadiance]

45. And many that Diebold said voted for you too! We all know that some of those people don't exist!

[KittyWampus]

46. why exactly is she clutching her pledged delegates?