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Meshuga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:40 AM
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Anybody but Clinton as VP!
Edited on Thu Jun-05-08 09:41 AM by MrWiggles
That's my feeling.

Hillary clinton is now, on her bid for the vice presidency, "presenting herself as the one person who could significantly heal the divisions now running deep in the party." Well, isn't she a culprit in creating this division in the first place with the type of campaign that she decided to run? And she is now using this division as leverage to be Obama's running mate? that's lame!

HRC's attacks on Obama were strong enough to lead many of her supporters to even consider McCain for GE. Republicans can compile a nice video of her making the case against Obama to play in the next 5 months for their own gain. We would probably have a harder time making the same type of video of her making the case against McCain.

Clinton's wounds that now hurt her chances of getting the VP spot were all self inflicted. If she ran a different campaign she'd be already on the ticket with a lot of people excited about it.

But the reality is that she turned herself into a horrible VP pick and wants to blackmail her way to the VP spot. Forget about it! We need someone else on the ticket and for her to do her best she can in order to end the division. However, the VP spot is out of the question.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:42 AM
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:45 AM
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5. You need to take a step back and analyze things witih a mature mind. its not about Hillary. nt
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Meshuga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:56 AM
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14. Feel free to hide the thread or adding me to your ignore list if what I post bothers you so much
Edited on Thu Jun-05-08 10:00 AM by MrWiggles
Those are nice tools that would help you in not breaking the rules with your rudeness.

But I am not going to STFU. Sorry!
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trickydix2000 Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 10:06 AM
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18. wow
That was rude and uncalled for
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:42 AM
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2. The RNC is already using Hillary in an ad.
No way she can be VP to him. She's done too much damage.
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:45 AM
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4. Agreed. She has shown that she is not loyal and can't be trusted.
If she now all of the sudden is chosen as VP there will be the inevitable questions regarding her statements that he was not ready, etc....

Not only that, she has contrary positions to Obama on the war in Iraq, meaning that she voted for it initially. We need a VP who did not vote for the resolution so that our party is a complete contrast to McCain.

I am hoping for Webb.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:50 AM
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9. Just picture it..
"So Senator Clinton, were you lying when you said Obama wasnt qualified to be President? Do you admit you were wrong? What made you change your mind?"

What a nightmare.

And yes... we need a non-Iraq war ticket. No blood on the hands would be nice.
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Meshuga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:53 AM
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11. Obama would have to answer for Hillary's IWR vote
Edited on Thu Jun-05-08 09:53 AM by MrWiggles
It would be a nightmare.
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VeraAgnes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:44 AM
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3. Exactly,
Obama would look weak if he had her on the ticket and she would be precieved as the woman behind the President, again...Cheney style too. :scared:

There has to be a better choice.
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Meshuga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:47 AM
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6. Yep, it would be the puppet bullshit
Forget it. Obama would be contradicting himself if he picked her. If he wants to run a different type of political campaign then Clinton is a bad pick for VP. She turned herself into a bad pick and she has to live with it.
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billybob537 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:47 AM
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7. It's as simple as ABC
For you hillary fans That's ANYONE BUT CLINTON>
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:47 AM
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8. How about Obama's old mentor Joe Lieberman?
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Meshuga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:51 AM
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10. Lieberman is a McCain supporter
And I wonder if we compile the case Lieberman has made against Obama compares to the Hillary's.
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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:55 AM
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13. Sen. Obama has a long sordid history of...
taking credit for work done by others...and blaming others for his own mistakes.

Hillary should not be the VP. It really is not in her best interests.

Wonder if that 'clinch' between Obama and Lieberman the other day was to try to get our resident Quisling Senator's backing?
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Meshuga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:58 AM
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15. "Hillary should not be the VP"
I sure hope she is not.
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 10:23 AM
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23. Please take a step back and truly look at the facts about our nominee
He has a long history of accomplishments for a man his age.

This vitriol has to stop.
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VeraAgnes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 10:10 AM
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20. Lets face it....
Lieberman is a Whore and would feel he was entitled................Of course I don't want him, just commenting on his enormous, pompous, blind ego arrogance.....
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papapi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:54 AM
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12. Jim Webb for Vice President!!! WooHoo!!!
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 10:02 AM
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17. No, we need him in the Senate. I think we will have both senators
from Virginia in the next Congress. I think we'd be pushing our luck to expect to hold on to Webb's seat, even with the likelihood of an interim appointment.
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Meshuga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 10:14 AM
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21. I agree
But he would be a good pick.
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invictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 10:01 AM
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16. I want the Bush-Clinton era to be finally over. n/t
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Independent-Voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 10:07 AM
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19. I agree - there are far better VP candidates with far less baggage.
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Midwest_Doc Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 10:20 AM
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22. Clinton Supporters, please justify ...
Clinton saying that McCain would make a better president than Obama.

PLEASE, someone explain to me how we Obama supporters can get past this, when the republicans will use it in their campaign.
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TheZug Donating Member (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 10:29 AM
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24. I say let him pick who he wants, even if it's Hillary.
Do I want him to pick her? No. And I don't disagree with most of your argument. But I think both Obama and Hillary supporters should lay off and let him go through the process. If at the end of that he decides Hillary's the best choice, then so be it.
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Meshuga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 01:17 PM
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25. I don't think Obama consults DU
So I think it's okay to discuss this here. I'm sure he will pick who he wants and what we say here makes no difference.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 01:23 PM
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26. ABC - that's how elementary ... it's gonna be
it's easy, like taking candy from a baby
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