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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 11:05 AM
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Question: Does Bill Clinton have anything to do with Obama's VP decision?
What do you think? Bill seemed to be difficult to control during Hillary's campaign until it was obvious he was blowing it
Yes/no/maybe?
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 11:06 AM
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1. Why the fuck should he?
Who the hell cares what he has to say anymore, especially since he's losing his marbles lately.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 12:11 PM
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14. He will second guess every decision and may go public when he disagrees.
Also his connections and who he owes favors to need to be taken into account.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 11:08 AM
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2. Because Bill can't be kept on a sort enough leash!
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 11:10 AM
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3. Absolutely - he would have to reveal all his secret business dealings
with questionable people in China, the Middle East, etc., and also all the donors to his "foundation". That would be part of the vetting process for a VP candidate - and the dirt there would disqualify Hillary. Why? Because a lot of people gave Bill exorbitant "consulting" and "advising" fees, and huge donations to his "foundation" in the expectation that Hill would be president, and they expect political favors in return.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 11:12 AM
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4. Bill to reveal all his secret business dealings?- that's right, heard that yesterday and Foxnews
also started pushing for answers about Bill's business dealings
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 11:14 AM
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5. I liked Bill as President, but I think his time in the spotlight has passed.
You know, he could have set up Al Gore for the Presidency after the Monica Lewinsky thing. He could have resigned, and Al Gore would have been in a much better position for President in 2000. (Although he did pretty well anyway...)

With Gore already in the Oval Office, it would have been very difficult to get away with election fraud on the level they did.

Bill needs to just write books, do speeches, and do all the other things former Presidents do. I don't think he was much of an asset for Hillary's campaign, from what I saw.

Just my opinion, but he seems to be close to jumping the shark, if he hasn't already.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 11:15 AM
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6. Obama said,
if Bill Clinton refuses to release business and donor records it would be "a deal-breaker".
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 11:17 AM
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9. Smart move by Obama
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 11:33 AM
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10. Yeah, Obama is on the ball.
Report: Obama-Clinton ticket 'unlikely'
WASHINGTON, June 4 (UPI) -- Close advisers to Obama, who claimed the nomination Tuesday, told the Journal an Obama-Clinton ticket was highly unlikely, and people in both campaigns said it would be "a deal-breaker" if Bill Clinton refuses to release business and donor records.

http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Top_News/2008/06/04/report_obama-clinton_ticket_unlikely/1183/

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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 11:16 AM
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7. Yes - Bill has been a loose cannon on the campaign trail
And he probably would have trouble passing the vetting process. Then there's the fact that Bill wants to be the center of attention. Being the spouse of the veep would not allow that.
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futureliveshere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 11:17 AM
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8. Yes, because it would be almost imposible to fully vet Bill
He would have to release all his post presidential business dealings and donor list to Obama and both campaigns admitted that it would be highly unlikely for the Clintons to agree to that.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 11:35 AM
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11. His finances and the disclosure issue will make the issue
It depends on if BC agrees to comply with the usual vetting process. I don't think we can afford to give him a pass on the process. Otherwise the Republicans will be all over it and make it all about BC.
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tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 12:09 PM
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12. Carter yesterday: "Because of BC's elements of UNpopularity, I have been against Hillary [as VP].."
Edited on Thu Jun-05-08 12:47 PM by tiptoe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32B7FFQGTUA (:33 into 2:57 video)
"Because of Bill Clinton's elements of UNpopularity, I have been against Hillary [as VP]..."


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jun/04/uselections2008?gusrc=rss&feed=networkfront
"What he needs more than a southerner is a person who can compensate for his obvious potential defects, his youthfulness and his lack of long experience in military and international affairs."

For that reason, Carter says he favours Sam Nunn, the former chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, who hails from his own state of Georgia. "That would be my preference, but there are other senior Democrats who would have similar credentials to Sam Nunn," he said.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x142869





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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 12:10 PM
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13. If Obama wants Bill's "unity pony"
He would be well advised to discuss it with him.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 12:41 PM
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15. If he wants dead weight weighing him down...
...he'd do it.

The Clintons are a distracting sideshow. In order to stand as his own person, Obama needs to keep her off the ticket.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 12:49 PM
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16. yes, Bill makes it impossible for Hillary to be VP, even if she were qualified, which she isn't
Edited on Thu Jun-05-08 12:50 PM by TexasObserver
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