Angry Clinton Supporters Start Rallying for McCain Online

[LoZoccolo]

They're mad as hell, and Hillary Clinton's supporters aren't going to take it anymore.

Some Clintonites are so mad about Barack Obama's Tuesday victory that they've launched a web site to build support to launch a lobbying group to support Republican John McCain.

"We're going to run campaign ads to defeat Obama," says Ed Hale, a 63-year-old rancher and a Clinton supporter from Wellington, Texas. "We have doctors, lawyers, CPAs, the blue bloods, and then we have rednecks like me. It's a very diversified organization."

The split illustrates the difficult task the Democratic party now faces in rallying the troops behind Obama. Open dissent within party ranks provides Republicans with openings to exploit.

http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/06/angry-clinton-s.html

I think it might be a tendency of some of these "low information voters" that Hillary was courting (amongst others) that they don't see much of a difference between the Democratic and Republican parties.

[Ian David]

1. John McCain / Harriet Christian '08! Blech! n/t

[LoZoccolo]

2. lol n/t

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

72. Deranged Clinton supporters say: HILLARY = JOHN MCCAIN OR MCSAME

They are painting Hillary as = to a neo con warmonger.

[leftofcool]

3. There are quite a few Lawyers and several member of NOW

in some of these groups. I don't think they are low info voters. But if it helps for you to think that, please carry on

[LoZoccolo]

5. NOW for McCain, lol. n/t

[SemiCharmedQuark]

6. What kind of DEMOCRAT would vote for McCain?

It's not even just "sitting the election out" or "writing in Hillary". It's actively working for four more years of Bush policies.

[iamthebandfanman]

47. the selfish, bitter,

and ignorant ones?

you know, the same ones that voted for bush in 2000.

[YOY]

9. Yeah sure right.

You have one week.

[Lerkfish]

16. it'll be an interesting week.

or else a really dumb, boring one. I'm going for dumb and boring. These guys can only xerox each others talking points.

[YOY]

56. The purposeless faux outrage intentionally spat at every corner from some people is getting old.

n/t

[Independent-Voter]

11. So they're high-info dumbasses then. These bitter women from NOW are going to cost the Dems the WH

[Lerkfish]

12. so you support their support for McCain, I take it?

or not?

[leftofcool]

31. No, I only support them to make their own decisions

it isn't my job to police the votes

[Lerkfish]

32. riiiiiiiiight.

[leftofcool]

40. You don' belive voters have the right to make their own decisions?

Do you live in the US?

[Lerkfish]

44. LOL!

[Labors of Hercules]

46. Sure. But I prefer those decisions be rational, informed...

or at the very least non-delusional.

[tkmorris]

52. Can't speak for Lerk, but...

*I* support voters right to make their own decisions.

I also reserve my right to say that anyone who ever called themselves a Democrat and now campaigns for McCain is an absolute fuckwit and we'd all be a lot better off if they'd realize how irretrievably ignorant they are and just shut up already.

[Lerkfish]

53. hell yes, you can speak for me, when you do it so eloquently.

good job.

[Blondbostonian]

15. Bullshit

I've been to a number of those sites/blogs in the last few days to see for myself.

The lion share are uneducated people who have issues when to use your and you're and theyre, their and there in the proper context. Many seem to be have emotional issues without the critical thinking skills to see past their hand.

Are you supporting John McCain for President? I'm not. I am a Democrat.

[newmajority]

17. If they are NOW members, then perhaps they should listen to Gloria Steinem?

Or have they thrown her under the bus too?

[mrreowwr_kittty]

29. I'm sure you know them quite well, leftofcool

I'm sure glad I tore up my NOW membership card. That miserable bunch of political hacks will never get a dime from me until they start remembering what their mission is supposed to be, and that is not to be Hillary Clinton's mouthpiece.

[leftofcool]

33. Well, it isn't my job to tell them how to vote

last time I checked, there were no voting gestapos in this country.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

35. Some Clinton supporters are sure starting to resemble one.

BTW, in case you aren't aware, Obama is the official nominee. If you don't like that, then you should leave DU because your posts are not welcome anymore.

[leftofcool]

41. official? I thought it was presumptive and are you skinner?

[YOY]

68. Jesus. Delusion at it's finest

Left of reality too.

[stray cat]

4. They've been doing that for over a month....

[breakaleg]

7. Sore Losers R Us?

[KaryninMiami]

8. Just another one of the many things we have to thank Hillary for. Disgusting.

She'd better get herself out there and do what she promised-- work her heart out for the nominee- and it needs to be without any strings attached (which for her is probably not possible, unfortunately), Otherwise, these women and the rest who are threatening to vote McShame or not vote or write in or whatever may be lost for good- thanks to Hillary and her bigger, knee-capping campaign tactics.

The problem is that she's now placed herself in a position where if Obama does not pick her as VP and then loses, she can always say "it's not my fault- I offered to be the VP which would have helped him win but he picked someone else so he lost".

[Vattel]

18. Hillary will support Obama,

so quit your whining.

[Independent-Voter]

37. She needs to get her petulant ass off the fence then. It's time for her to put up or shut up.

[billybob537]

10. BLAH BLAH BLAH

SORE LOSERS
SO what!

[moriah]

13. *gag* I just looked at their website.

If all of the McCain supporters are as ignorant, illiterate, and illogical as the person who is doing their website, we should win by a landslide.

[katmondoo]

14. If McCain is the future they want for their kids

then I just give up on Americans. They want to bring us all down to the level of a third world country,Fascism, lies and endless wars. I do not see what Clinton does for women, as a woman and an elderly one at that I am for Obama. I say screw these traitors. They can kiss Mcbushes ass.

[melody]

19. Bigots n/t

[gateley]

27. Yes - I've come to that belief, too.

Just listening to anti-Obama people using the guise of being Hillary supporters. They call in to a talk show, say blah blah blah, and the host will explain how that statement is untrue. The caller will say, anyway, but blah blah blah -- and just move on to the next false accusation.

It dawned on me that the issues they were citing, weren't really why they were against Obama at all, otherwise the explanation would have meant something to them.

I began to wonder, then came to believe, that they are racist, and perhaps don't even know it themselves. They are afraid of a black man leading our country, but can't even admit it to themselves because they know it is fundamentally wrong to have those feelings.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

20. I put Hale's name in Newsmeat.com

and found he had donated NOTHING to the Clinton campaign. Only donation listed is $200 to some "Other" candidate in 04

http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_detail.php?st=TX&last=Hale&first=Ed


Interesting that he calls himself a "supporter", isn't it?

[Beacool]

21. Low information voters my rear end!!!

I work for a Fortune 100 and most of us here are either attorneys or have master's degrees. They know my involvement in the campaign and have come over in the last few days to express their dismay at her loss. Several, including men, have said that they won't vote for Obama. They would have voted for Hillary, but don't consider Obama experienced enough to handle the job. BTW, two of them are AA.

I just saw one guy and as we passed in the hall he yelled out: McCain!!

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[proud2BlibKansan]

57. Well they are definitely fools

[butterfly77]

70. Their jealous..

[last_texas_dem]

71. People can be highly educated and not know shit about politics.

Sad but true.

[pbca]

22. Of course they are

Not all Hillary supporters of course, but I have to assume that the ones switching to McCain are voting primarily on the issue of skin color and that's what they were primarily interested in before.

The Democratic Party and the Obama Campaign do not need racists on the team anyway.

[polichick]

23. Is "low information voters" code for dumbshit racists??

[HereSince1628]

24. People are free to support politicians of their choice

even if their choice is irrational or against their own self-interest.

All this angst is about not being able to accept having backed the candidate who ended up losing a close primary campaign. There is nothing to do about this but let them be; let them go. They need to grieve, they need to get over it. The majority of them probably will get over it.

It's an inappropriate time to do anything but let them get over their loss. Most of them aren't going to throw temper tantrums that will carry through until November. In the end cooler heads will prevail. People who see McCain as the best alternative to Hillary Clinton are using something other than Democratic principles as the foundation of their thinking. Of course they are free to do that. And we should let them. Constantly sticking Clinton's loss in their face is just going to provoke them.

Let it be. Without a rallying point this Clinton supporters for McCain thing will disperse under its own lack of coherence.

[cliffordu]

25. I make rude sounds in their direction.

[onehandle]

26. A small minority. I know you're just posting their headline, but be real.

Some Hillary supporters will not let it go.

The same would have happened with some Obama supporters if Hillary would have won.

Won't make a difference. We will win.

[cottonseed]

28. These where never Clinton supporters. They are anti-Obama.

After perusing through the filth sack boards at hillaryclintonforum.net and hillaryis44.org I've noticed that these people were using Hillary as their vehicle to hate Obama. Look at the threads on this site. There is one thread, with many positive replies, stating they WOULD NOT vote a ticket with Hillary as VP. Why? Because Obama was on it.

These people may have started out as Hillary backers, but after months of rolling around in filth, praising lies and innuendo against Obama, they came to finally believe it. These people honestly believe Obama is an evil, evil man, akin to satan. They hate him so much that supporting Hillary is no longer even in the forefront of their minds. These 'Hillary' supporters are anti-Obama hate voters wrapping themselves in a Hillary flag.

These voters do no good for true Hillary supporters, Obama, or the Democratic party. Most are lost. You can see it in their virtual eyes.

[LTR]

30. Dupe

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6285785&mesg_id=6285785

[Larkspur]

36. I recently had an email debate with some feminists

including some from New York. These feminists blamed sexism for Hillary's loss. I strongly disagreed with them and pointed out Hillary's hubris, poor strategy, and poor executive leadership skills. She should have vetted Mark Penn before ever making him her chief campaign advisor. Penn had no clue how the Democratic primary process worked.

I was accused of suffering from "internalized sexism". I asked them "I despise Bill Clinton, not just Hillary. Does that mean I have internalized hatred of men?" They responded that my remark was proof that I suffered from "internalized sexism". Whatever!!! :eyes:

[LoZoccolo]

39. It's an accusation that cannot be proven nor disproven...

...and thus can be easily employed as a card to manipulate people. I just ignore it now. They'll wear it out on too many people and it will completely lose its power.

[iamthebandfanman]

45. they shame any and all civil rights work

by calling people things they clearly dont even understand themselves.

i believe theres a word for people like that...

posers. and self righteous ones at that.

[TexasObserver]

38. Ed Hale is a Republican, not a Democrat.

80% of the Hillary supporters who are making noise are not Democrats at all. They're Republicans and DINOS who only voted for her because they want to run against her.

The GOP always uses dirty tricks, and Hillary, being a dumb ass, has played right into their hands.

[crickets]

59. Bingo. -nt

[anigbrowl]

63. Yet another GOP front site, hidden registration

Registrant:
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96 Mowat Ave
Toronto, ON M6K 3M1
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Domain name: HCSFJM.COM

Administrative Contact:
contactprivacy.com, [e-mail]
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+1.4165385457
Technical Contact:
contactprivacy.com, [e-mail]
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Toronto, ON M6K 3M1
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+1.4165385457

[godai]

42. Were they ever really Clinton supporters?

I'm beginning to think that there was a movement among RW tricksters to setup Clinton support sites etc., to try to stop Obama. We've seen the MSM Repubs support for Clinton (Scarborough, Buchanan) and maybe this went further.

The rancher in this post doesn't sound like a Democrat, more Repub or just racist.

[cottonseed]

48. I think Republicans are defintely taking advantage of this split.

Even stoking the flames. When you have RW pundits on television seemingly so understanding of Hillary's plight, you've got to take pause.

A favorite of mine was when Tucker Carlson said he knew people in Obama's campaign, and that, "a lot of them don't like the Clintons, they think they're racists". That's garbage, it's a lie and the RW talking heads are flaming the fires here.

[iamthebandfanman]

43. screw the country!

thats what these people are REALLY saying.

selfish assholes.

[Forkboy]

49. Most of them are rethugs, and the dead enders are dumb enough to cling to them.

They won't matter in the slightest bit. Let them revel in their irrelevancy.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

50. are you really that gulible to believe that these people ever were real Clinton supporters?

[LoZoccolo]

61. I don't think I'm as gullible as these folks.

http://www.comedycentral.com/videos/index.jhtml?videoId=168561

[Catherina]

65. Sadly some are

Koryne Horbal, Founder of the DFL Feminist Caucus, who served under several Democratic Administrations, comes to mind. It's pretty shocking and extremely disappointing.

To your point, I'm not gullible enough to believe a few loudmouths ever represent anything, that includes this bunch. In Koryne's case, she tried to and was thankfully immediately contradicted buy the President of the DFL Feminist Caucus. I personally think they're few and far between and that the majority of the shit stirrers were either non-Democrats or fair-weather Democrats.

What's a shame is that they've been able to camouflage very well without being denounced. I'm sure time will take care of that now that we're no longer in an "an enemy of my enemy is my friend" mode.

[donheld]

51. I guess upholding Roe v Wade has lost it's value

An end to war has lost it's luster
A repaired ecomony it's charm

What a bunch of fucking loons. These were faux democrats.

[mzmolly]

54. Part of me wonders if they're the Limbaugh branch of Hillary supporters?

:shrug:

[Starlight]

55. I'm guessing the majority of the crazy acting "hillary supporters" fall into this category.

[high density]

75. I'm pretty sure you hit that on the head

These people wouldn't spend two minutes on casting a vote for Clinton in November. What exactly is so different between his "security" platform and Clinton's? The site reads like a standard Bushbot rant. Clinton supporters my ass.

[graywarrior]

58. Spoiled brats who aren't getting their own way.

Unbelievable.

[barack the house]

60. I think we'll win this regardless of the defectors.

[GalleryGod]

62. They should report to "Proctologists' Dream.com"

asshats! :patriot: :rofl: :patriot:

[workinclasszero]

64. Just goes to prove a large chunk of those mythical 18 million Hillary voters

are Operation Chaos rethug slimeballs.

No democrat is going to vote for McBush over Obama.

None. Zero. Zip. Nada.

[Catherina]

66. It would be great if we identified these "some" Clintonites

These are the fickle fair weather, demand-making types that keep the party for moving in a decent direction because we keep pandering to their demands for a few votes.

Everytime we pander to them, we lose good supporters who get disgusted because we're abandoning our principles to compromise with hijackers.

LET THEM GO!


Goodbye Ed Hale and all the riff-raff supporting you.

[oviedodem]

67. Obama is not going to win, I have come to this realization due to the fact that

women are pissed and think he stole it from her.

[LoZoccolo]

69. That's true; she led in pledged delegates.

The only reason he "won" is because of the superdelegates.

[PatGund]

74. I hope this is sarcasm

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_delegate_count.html

State Date Delegates Obama Clinton
Total - 2181 1921
Super Delegates - 823 415 282
Pledged Delegates - 3434 1766.5 1639.5
Edwards\' Delegates - 24.5 21 -

[LoZoccolo]

76. Actually it is, lol.

I don't use the sarcasm smiley, but sometimes I use small print to indicate that. And then sometimes I don't!

[PatGund]

77. Okay!! *smile*

[dsomuah]

73. These people couldn't even raise money for their own candidate ...

But they think they are going to fund a lobbying group to run ads for McCain?

This is the funniest thing I have read all day.