Leopolds Ghost
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Thu Jun-05-08 12:31 PM
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"People are running fast... This is what happens when the wheels come off a campaign" |
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Said on the news last night about Rangel's comments and the unnamed senior Hillary campaign STAFF calling 8 Senators in to ask Hillary not to fight on -- shortly before Hillary conceded.
And "there are only 4 or 5 decisionmakers left in the Hillary campaign who know what's going on, that's how isolated they'd become" so it was 2 or 3 of those remaining insiders and "you would be surprised to know who they are".
I guess we know who took Hillary into a room, figuratively speaking... the congressmen were angry at the notion that 18 million voters were all that loyal to her... DUers should keep in mind... some of the angrier, center-right political Dem activists on the blogosphere, the ones constantly harping how Obama is hateful and unelectable, do NOT speak for 18 million voters...
I was surprised to hear how soft that 18 million support was and how quickly it moved Obama's way after the media simply said Obama WAS the presumptive nominee.
What's even scarier was to hear how Hillary's die-herd campaign aides, having excluded all the wavering supporters from the campaign strategy in an effort to protect Hillary from core allies who wanted her to get out weeks ago, had to call Congress to convince the Clintons (2 people) that the battle was lost... that is Baghdad bob-levels of yes-speak and isolation from the realities on the ground.
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Thu Jun-05-08 12:33 PM
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1. That was yesterday. Can we move forward off of "look how dug in Clinton was"? |
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Thu Jun-05-08 12:35 PM
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3. She was dug in like a tick on a hound dog. n/t |
Leopolds Ghost
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Thu Jun-05-08 12:40 PM
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8. It's scary... another reason not to pick Hillary as VP. |
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Edited on Thu Jun-05-08 12:43 PM by Leopolds Ghost
That said, I have some deep fears/criticisms about what the Democratic Party is likely to become if the conservative Dems and the yuppie Dems finally unite and coalesce and win a landslide in November. We could be headed toward a fundamental party realignment where all the socially moderate, Big Business republicans move to the Democratic Party... in other words, we may be seeing the opposite of an ideological shift in this country, we may be seeing a party realignment that will permanently drive Dems into the center and validate Bill and Hillary's center-right agenda for 40 years thanks to gas prices and the war killing the republican brand and white yuppies insisting Obama is "safe" on neoliberal policies such as abandoning campaign finance reform and welfare and public housing, clean coal, "support for Israel" etc. Whether Obama supports those things or not, he will be expected to by the neoliberal "consensus" if he wins even a landslide, or else he will be targeted for potentially threatening media & upper class hatred.
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HCE SuiGeneris
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Thu Jun-05-08 12:45 PM
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9. There is relevance to what happens moving forward. |
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Edited on Thu Jun-05-08 12:46 PM by BushDespiser12
Examining her campaign and its machinations is integral to how responses are crafted regarding her future actions.
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Leopolds Ghost
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Thu Jun-05-08 01:01 PM
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10. Exactly. Plus, all the same DLC creeps and Reagan Dems who undermined the New Deal in the 80s-90s |
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Will be crawling back to infiltrate and feed off of a victorious Democratic Party.
Hillary's campaign was simply easier pickings.
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HCE SuiGeneris
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Thu Jun-05-08 01:42 PM
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11. No chit. The siphon hoses and extra teats need to be capped. |
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It will take a lot of vigilance and oversight.
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Thu Jun-05-08 12:34 PM
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2. about 5% of Hillary's voters are upset |
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the rest that are making noise are DINOS or Republicans, just like those who making the obnoxious websites for her are GOP dirty tricks
If she really had even one million devoted followers, she wouldn't be $30 million in debt right now.
As with all things that come from Hillary, this one is a fraud.
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Thu Jun-05-08 12:36 PM
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4. No one will ever be able to spin away how famously out of touch she was during... |
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....this campaign. People could write, and they probably will, dozens or hundreds of pages on the destructive dynamics of a campaign so insular and predatory. Ultimately, delusional and schizophrenic and lashing out to the end.
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Thu Jun-05-08 12:38 PM
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5. Because she refused to concede Tuesday, she's opened herself up to all of of her dirty laundry |
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being aired. She has no one to blame but herself.
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Thu Jun-05-08 12:38 PM
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6. I am sooooooooo thankful that she did NOT become president. SOOOOO thankful |
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Thu Jun-05-08 12:39 PM
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7. Which illustrates the level of insincerity in her words supporting Obama, as she was given no choice |
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but to do so because supporters were coming out AGAINST her true attitude in droves and were preparing to make a public stand for Obama that she was trying to thwart.
So the emty words that she's suspending and will support Obama to take the edge off their public display of leaving her side to stand with Obama.
If they hadn't set this up, would she still be hiding behind her supporters' email campaign she set up Tuesday night?
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