Ned_Devine
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Thu Jun-05-08 12:50 PM
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This whole "Obama/Lieberman" encounter... |
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...Are people making too big a deal over it? All I can see is that there will be a negative spin on this whole thing against Obama. Any thoughts? I rarely start my own thread around here
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Thu Jun-05-08 12:52 PM
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1. What's the big deal, really? He didn't assault Lieberman he just gave him a "talking to". |
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Lieberman is a feeble little rat fuck of a shit. He has gotten a pass far too long.
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Thu Jun-05-08 01:17 PM
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18. I'm talking more about the way the media will spin it |
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...not the way that we see it.
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Thu Jun-05-08 12:53 PM
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2. No doubt Faux will spin it against him, but the other senators now know who's boss. |
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Edited on Thu Jun-05-08 12:55 PM by funflower
Betcha nobody in the Senate wants to be taken to the public woodshed by the soon-to-be leader of the free world.
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Thu Jun-05-08 12:53 PM
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3. I don't see negative spin coming. |
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I think democrats are loving it. Let that shithead Lieberman know that he is on the verge of getting completely thrown out of the party once and for all.
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Thu Jun-05-08 02:57 PM
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22. Don't get me wrong... |
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...I think it's great. I think he will set any one straight (although he may have been a little too cordial with Hillary). I am just waiting for Fox and all the other vultures and hyenas to paint him as the "black intimidator"!
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Thu Jun-05-08 12:54 PM
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4. Do we know what was actually said?? |
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It was just a tad icky that Barack actually had to hold Joey's hand! lol
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Thu Jun-05-08 01:01 PM
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showed a commanding presence. Notice LIEberboy didn't shake off Daddy's hand.
It was bold; it was LEADERSHIP; it was I'll show you who's the boss!
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Thu Jun-05-08 01:05 PM
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14. I know, but did he remember to use his antibacterial gel afterward?! :) |
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Thu Jun-05-08 12:54 PM
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5. I think there is bipartisan agreement that LIEberman is a piece of shit. n/t |
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Thu Jun-05-08 12:54 PM
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They had a conversation that Barak Obama dominated with "non-threatening" hand gestures.
I'm not sure why non-threatening was even put in there, since it brings up the image of "threatening" by nature of the word.
They obviously had a disagreement about something and discussed it. The conversation ended cordial enough with pats on the back.
Its a total non-issue.
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Thu Jun-05-08 12:54 PM
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7. (shrug) They'll use it as "angry black man" ammo, but they'd do that ANYWAY.... |
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So it doesn't introduce any *new* complexities.
Moreover, that sort of thing, along with Obama banning lobbyist $ from the DNC actually *helps* Obama, I think. Showing his ability and willingness to assertively COMMAND, when appropriate, is a *very* good thing. We need a diplomat as President, but we also need a *commander*. Show that he has *both* of those skills in his toolbox can't be anything other than a benefit, ultimately.
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Thu Jun-05-08 12:56 PM
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10. One day he's an elitist latte drinker. The next he's a scary, scary angry black man. |
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Thu Jun-05-08 12:54 PM
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8. looks positive to me. nt. |
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Thu Jun-05-08 12:55 PM
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9. No way. Democrats should be proud. |
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Besides setting Traitor Joe LIEberman straight, I think Obama was sending a public message to the repukes (and others) that there's a new Big Dog in town.
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Thu Jun-05-08 12:56 PM
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11. Lieberman is a snivelly turncoat. Nobody likes traitors. |
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Thu Jun-05-08 12:58 PM
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12. Damn positive in my book. |
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Geez. Talk about damned if you do, damned if you don't. Democrats are accused of being push overs for years, and now that we have a strong, capable leader, we're worried about it? Hell, read any bio of LBJ and you will know that this is all part of the game.
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Thu Jun-05-08 01:09 PM
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15. saw the clip run on ABC |
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and there wasn't anything there that looked in the least threatening. Don't see how Faux can spin it unless they use words and not visuals, which would easily refute any accusations they would make.
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Thu Jun-05-08 01:11 PM
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16. Did Obama put him over his knee? |
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Thu Jun-05-08 01:12 PM
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17. He talked to him. He didn't beat him with a tire iron. |
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Thu Jun-05-08 01:29 PM
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20. Pranked him real good |
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Mention beating with a tire iron and I get an image of Christopher Walken doing an episode of SNL
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Thu Jun-05-08 01:19 PM
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19. That's what I saw. They were probably arguing over what they were eating for lunch |
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back slapping and grins is not intimidation.
Plus Obama is 6'2" he's always taller and seems more intimidating than most. Lieberman is like what? 5'9 and that's being kind.
It's just corny. BO is like a rock star, he gets into these things beause he's so popular when in reality the conversation is probably he msot mundane thing. Maybe he complimented Lieberman on his tie too.
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Thu Jun-05-08 02:25 PM
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21. He showed some spine - rare for a Democrat this days |
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Edited on Thu Jun-05-08 02:25 PM by DeeDeeNY
He confronted LIEberman face to face. He was cordial yet assertive. That's what good leaders do. I don't see how they can negatively spin this. It's not as though he loudly and crudely told him to go Cheney himself -- although somehow that episode from a few years ago didn't result in any negative media spin at all towards Cheney.
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