BREAKING-via statement just put out-Hillary says she's not SEEKING the vice presidency...

[jenmito]

which to ME means she WANTS it but wants to go about it as not being pushy. :eyes:

I heard it on MSNBC via press release from her campaign.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

1. i think not.

I think she and Bill had a heart - - no, that's not possible. . . a head to head confrontation, when the Obama camp suggested that every candidate and their spouse would be fully vetted. His library and his foreign income look just plain screwy and would completely destroy their reps forever.

[jenmito]

5. I hope you're right. I know Bill wouldn't disclose his donor list, so maybe she did this

to make it look like if/when she doesn't get it, no biggie. She didn't want it anyway. (I forgot about the donor list. Thanks).

[Cha]

17. I'm sure the dlc wants to get in

the second power seat but thanks to bil clinton's and even their records being scutinized..better go to plan C.

[jenmito]

22. Yup. Their days are over...

and once Obama chooses his non-Clinton VP, the end will be here for sure.

[Cha]

100. I hope he's not offering her anything in

her "DC home" tonight.

[jenmito]

104. I hope SHE'S offering to endorse him with no favors asked in return.

[Cha]

105. Or no "demands" asked

in return..but, I'm too cynical to think that's a happening.

[jenmito]

106. I know how you feel...

but I wouldn't worry about it. He can clearly be tough when he has to be.

[Cha]

107. Oh I know our guy is tough! He gets his strength

from the truth and grace. :)

[goclark]

29. What time is it? She'll change her mind again

Bottom line for me is, I am at the point that I would gladly donate to her debts fund, give her a fund raiser if she would just go on a long vacation in Puerto Rico until January 21st.

[Major Hogwash]

2. Good, that solves that problem.

Now we won't have to endure any more "make her veep" threads!!

She doesn't want it - she said so herself.

[jenmito]

8. I hope so...but she didn't say she doesn't WANT it-she said she's not SEEKING it...

more word parsing.

[godai]

15. You're right. she doesn't want to leave the impression that she is 'seeking' the VP.

She is, it seems from all reports, but it's backfiring and she feels this need to back off.

[jenmito]

20. Thanks...

I just hope Obama does NOT ask her. And I doubt he will.

[scheming daemons]

3. Then she should tell Lanny Davis to stand down...

[ChairmanAgnostic]

7. I read that wolfson tried, with little success.

[jenmito]

9. She should. But he CLAIMED he WOULDN'T stand down even if she asked him to.

Yeah, right.

[SoCalDem]

Lanny's "facetime" is about to evaporate again..He's desperate to be relevant again

I'm hoping we have seen the last for a while, of:

McAwful
Wolfson
Penn
Lanny
Carville
and a bunch more I forgot to include

[jenmito]

36. I'll add:

Tubbs-Jones

[SoCalDem]

40. AMEN.. I'm hoping someone cuts her amphetamine dose too

NO ONE is THAT chirpy:)

[jenmito]

45. Yes. THAT would help.

:)

[Hart2008]

4. To avoid vetting Bill's sleazy business dealing she would need to divorce him.

Which would open up the whole issue of whether their marriage is anything more than a political convenience, and what she owes to whom...

[jenmito]

13. Yeah...

I forgot all about Bill's refusal to release his donors.

[SoCalDem]

41. If she HAD divorced him after they left office, I think she MIGHT have won..

She would have truly been an "independent woman" ...a feminist looking out for herself..

[CoffeeCat]

94. Don't even say that

Can you imagine Bill Clinton divorced ???

If it wasn't nailed down--he's nail it!

:scared:

[Hart2008]

108. The bigger question is, "Can you imagine Hillary divorced?"

Clinton insiders have long said that they really don't like each other much, but they have a political partnership.

Hillary has been much closer to the political model of George Wallace's wife, rather than an independent woman, e.g., Barbara Boxer, Diane Fienstein, or Barbara Milkulski.

[KAZ]

6. Thought it was a pretty good statement. "She speaks for herself,

and it's Obama's decision", to paraphrase.

[jenmito]

23. Yeah-after ruining his night.

She has no class. She's even doing THIS for her own good.

[Raine1967]

10. Where is the statement from?

Link? TV?

I would like very much to read it or hear it.

[jenmito]

14. MSNBC talking about it now. n/t

[Raine1967]

35. Danke!

[jenmito]

37. Douitashimashite!

:)

[ChairmanAgnostic]

43. domo arigato. ir aciu labai.

with a merci, multo graci und danke added on top.

[jenmito]

46. You're good!

Seguii, ne! :D

[blm]

11. To me it means STOP BRINGING UP BILL'S DIRTY BUSINESS DEALS as reason I can't pass the vetting.

Because THAT is the truth.

[jenmito]

24. Yup...

that's the truth.

[Hepburn]

12. Heya, Jen....

....nice to see you. Thanks for the info on Hillary...and very nice to see you around.

:hi:

[jenmito]

19. Hey, Hepburn!

:hi: I haven't seen you since Obama won the nomination! Nice to see you, too!

[Kool Kitty]

16. She doesn't want to be the Vice President.

She wants to be the President.

[jenmito]

27. Exactly...

and that should be enough to not put her on the ticket.

[Kool Kitty]

33. My feelings exactly.

[TexasObserver]

18. she spends two days using surrogates nonstop, then says "only I speak for me!"

more of same from She Who Cannot Tell The Truth

[jenmito]

28. Yup. I'm so TIRED of the Clintons and the old style of politics.

Soon they'll be gone!

[DemocracyInaction]

21. That's because she screwed up again

There have been a steady parade of politicians from Ed Randell to Charlie Rangle all over tv who have been saying you don't lobby, or threaten, or bargain or whatever with the nominee for VP. You quietly sit and hope you will be honored to be offered it. I kept thinking to myself for a couple days: this darlin' is waaaay over playing her hand. Amazing that she would be that dumb about the way politics work!!!

[jenmito]

31. Yup. I can't wait 'til Obama picks someone ELSE as his VP.

Then the drama will be over.

[Bensthename]

25. She doesnt want it.. NEXT..

who else do we have? Let's see....

[jenmito]

32. LOTS of good choices...as long as it's not her...

or Lieberman. :D

[Indenturedebtor]

26. Hah prolly means it won't be offered

Leave the ball and go home!

[jenmito]

34. "I wasn't fired. I QUIT!"

:D

[Indenturedebtor]

42. HAH like that scene in Jerry McGuire "Who's comin with me?!?!" n/t

[jenmito]

48. Yup-that, too.

:D

[sufrommich]

30. Or,perhaps she never pushed for it in the first place,

and a whole bunch of Hillary haters on DU accepted unsubstantiated gossip as truth without a scintilla of evidence.:think: Edit for spelling.

[jenmito]

38. Um, no. Her surrogates pushed for it. She knows they're doing it.

[sufrommich]

39. And you know this how?

[jenmito]

47. I saw them say so on tv. That's why she said today that she speaks for herself. n/t

[PoliticalAmazon]

44. She thinks she's ENTITLED to Obama to beg her. n/t

[jenmito]

49. She still thinks she's the queen. n/t

[PoliticalAmazon]

51. Yeah, the insane, manic Red Queen. n/t

[Citizen_Penn]

50. lol - HILLARY NOT BEING PUSHY

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


Not PUSHY!

[jenmito]

55. She's trying to LOOK that way...

but we all know better.

[Poll_Blind]

103. .

:rofl:

PB

[AtomicKitten]

52. which means to me that she already caught wind of him saying it was unlikely

saving face ... :D

[jenmito]

56. I hope you're right...

and think you are. :hi:

[wildflowergardener]

53. maybe

Maybe she has realized that she has a much better chance at being chosen if she doesn't try to force it, and supports Obama fully. She's smart and should know that.

Meg

[jenmito]

57. That's what I thought when I started this thread,

but now I think it's because she knows she's not gonna get it (due to Bill's refusal to release his donor list among other things) and she's pretending she doesn't really want it ANYWAY.

[jgraz]

54. It means to me that the party elders are continuing their efforts to rein her in

Nice to see the adults are finally taking control.

[jenmito]

58. She apparently thought she still had them on her side...

she was wrong.

[jgraz]

61. The delusion just never ends.

Sad.

[jenmito]

65. I know.

It IS sad.

[MoonRiver]

59. How are you going to react if she's offered and accepts it?

Will you turn on the Chosen One, or will Hillary suddenly become golden?

[jgraz]

60. I'll probably be too busy with the monkeys flying out of my ass.

[MoonRiver]

62. OK. I'll stay away from your tail wind then.

:D

[jgraz]

63. Look out for the flying pigs as well. ;)

[MoonRiver]

64. Indeed!

[jenmito]

68. Will you be supporting the one you call the "Chosen One"?

[MoonRiver]

86. I'm sorry, did you say something?

Wait, I urgently need to polish my nails. Will get back with you soon, sweetie.

[jenmito]

89. YOU reply to MY OP, and then you have the nerve to have an attitude?

If you can't stand the heat, don't come into the kitchen, sweetie. ;-)

[Jazzgirl]

76. Oh dayum!!!

[jenmito]

66. Why do you call him the "Chosen One"? Because we chose him?

No, I won't turn on Obama, but I would be VERY disappointed. She'll NEVER be "golden" to me. And I'm SURE Obama won't let me and his other supporters down.

[mudesi]

67. At this point she's just HOPING

Apt, is it not?

[jenmito]

69. Yes, it is...

and quite ironic, too. :D

[Sultana]

70. Yeeeeaaah riggggggghhhhhhhhhhttttt

Didn't she say she was willing to be Obama's VP choice when he became our presumptive nominee?


tisk, tisk, tisk........

[jenmito]

73. Yes she did...

but she also said she was under sniper fire, so...

[symbolman]

71. How is it that Bill can't be vetted if she's VP but

her running for Pres was all fine and Dandy? Were they going to Lock up records like Bush?

So much for a Transparent Hillary Presidency, eh?

[jenmito]

75. Good question...

I thought they said they WOULD release them "upon becoming the nominee" but then I heard he said he woudn't since he promised his donors they'd remain anonymous. They're just like the Bush admin.

[symbolman]

80. Too bad the media can't ask these questions..

but we're all more interested in what Hillary is doing despite there being more intense history being made.. Though its hard to decide who's had it rougher, women or black people..

A question like that might get Buchanan passing the giant turd he always seems to be working on.. :)

[jenmito]

83. Good point...

and thanks for the visual. x( :D

[Clear Blue Sky]

72. Depends on the meaning of "seeking"...nt

[jenmito]

77. Exactly!

Just more parsing of language.

[gulfcoastliberal]

74. She is fucking pathetic. How crass & vile can she be?

Guess we'll find out this weekend.

[jenmito]

79. I don't think she's ready to stop being crass and vile yet...

not even this weekend. She's going to keep her delegates. (Are they allowed to leave her for Obama?)

[gulfcoastliberal]

87. I agree - she's already proven to have no code of ethics or honor whatsoever.

I thought Hillary said delegates - including the pledged delegates - could vote for whomever they pleased? If so, her pledged delegates should "unselect" her as their nominee!

[jenmito]

90. Exactly...

A couple pledged delegates DID switch to Obama a week or so ago, I thought. Nothing's stopping more of them from doing the same. That would be the BEST.

[ecstatic]

78. a day late, a dollar short... as usual

:eyes:

[jenmito]

82. Yup. She had to rain on his parade first.

And I'm not even sure she'll make it better this weekend.

[polichick]

81. Whether she's seeking it or not, she's not getting it.

[jenmito]

84. I bet you're right!

I just wish Obama would make his choice soon so Hillary's crazy supporters can get used to the idea.

[polichick]

85. We didn't vote for a dummy! :)

But, from what he's said in the last couple of days, I think he'll take a lot of time and do a very thorough job in this selection ~ he told Brian Williams that it's the most important decision he'll make before the inauguration, and it will signal how he will run his presidency. He also said in an interview on the plane that we won't hear about it from the press or from surrogates, but from him.

[jenmito]

91. I know...

and I saw his statements on picking his VP. I love how he set the rules. HE will announce his choice when he's ready. Nobody else will do so.

[polichick]

93. I'm really glad he made that clear - now we can all relax a little...

...and really enjoy the big win!

[jenmito]

96. So am I...

I LOVE the way he took control. :D

[Fire Walk With Me]

88. So long as she doesn't run as a third party.

[jenmito]

92. No way. That's one thing she'll NEVER do.

[Imagevision]

95. Obama stated earlier that his choice of VP. will be known when you hear it from his lips...

hence, take two weeks off, chillout...

[jenmito]

97. I know. I heard that...

and I'm glad.

[billyoc]

98. I'm not seeking the VP spot either,

as far as I KNOW...



:crazy:

[jenmito]

99. ...

:rofl:

[CesarAugustus2]

101. People love to read Clinton's mind

I don't know why.

[jenmito]

102. Judging by her actions, she has a record of not matching her words and deeds.

[Major Hogwash]

109. That ends it.

She's done.

[JVS]

110. Maybe it means she was told "NO"