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nonobadfish Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 07:27 PM
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John McCain's divorce...valid concern about his character or not?
I definitely don't want to throw stones at John McCain because I have too much baggage of my own and understand mistakes made in youth. But I saw this article in a link from Politico, and it struck me that Senator McCain may not be as principaled as he claims and his youthful mistakes were at the age of 40.

We all should be granted the right to make amends for our wrong choices, but is the story of how he handled his divorce a big statement about who McCain is? Or was it so long ago that it doesn't matter? I really don't want to slam him for something like this, but is it it important? What do y'all think?

The link:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1024927/The-wife-John-McCain-callously-left-behind.html

The article (note Ross Perot's quote and the fact that he married Cindy a month after his divorce):

The wife U.S. Republican John McCain callously left behind
By Sharon Churcher
Last updated at 1:45 AM on 08th June 2008

Now that Hillary Clinton has at last formally withdrawn from the race for the White House, the eyes of America and the world will focus on Barack Obama and his Republican rival Senator John McCain.


While Obama will surely press his credentials as the embodiment of the American dream – a handsome, charismatic young black man who was raised on food stamps by a single mother and who represents his country’s future – McCain will present himself as a selfless, principled war hero whose campaign represents not so much a battle for the presidency of the United States, but a crusade to rescue the nation’s tarnished reputation.

McCain likes to illustrate his moral fibre by referring to his five years as a prisoner-of-war in Vietnam. And to demonstrate his commitment to family values, the 71-year-old former US Navy pilot pays warm tribute to his beautiful blonde wife, Cindy, with whom he has four children.

But there is another Mrs McCain who casts a ghostly shadow over the Senator’s presidential campaign. She is seldom seen and rarely written about, despite being mother to McCain’s three eldest children.

And yet, had events turned out differently, it would be she, rather than Cindy, who would be vying to be First Lady. She is McCain’s first wife, Carol, who was a famous beauty and a successful swimwear model when they married in 1965.

She was the woman McCain dreamed of during his long incarceration and torture in Vietnam’s infamous ‘Hanoi Hilton’ prison and the woman who faithfully stayed at home looking after the children and waiting anxiously for news.

But when McCain returned to America in 1973 to a fanfare of publicity and a handshake from Richard Nixon, he discovered his wife had been disfigured in a terrible car crash three years earlier. Her car had skidded on icy roads into a telegraph pole on Christmas Eve, 1969. Her pelvis and one arm were shattered by the impact and she suffered massive internal injuries.

When Carol was discharged from hospital after six months of life-saving surgery, the prognosis was bleak. In order to save her legs, surgeons

had been forced to cut away huge sections of shattered bone, taking with it her tall, willowy figure. She was confined to a wheelchair and was forced to use a catheter.

Through sheer hard work, Carol learned to walk again. But when John McCain came home from Vietnam, she had gained a lot of weight and bore little resemblance to her old self.

Today, she stands at just 5ft4in and still walks awkwardly, with a pronounced limp. Her body is held together by screws and metal plates and, at 70, her face is worn by wrinkles that speak of decades of silent suffering.

For nearly 30 years, Carol has maintained a dignified silence about the accident, McCain and their divorce. But last week at the bungalow where she now lives at Virginia Beach, a faded seaside resort 200 miles south of Washington, she told The Mail on Sunday how McCain divorced her in 1980 and married Cindy, 18 years his junior and the heir to an Arizona brewing fortune, just one month later.

Carol insists she remains on good terms with her ex-husband, who agreed as part of their divorce settlement to pay her medical costs for life. ‘I have no bitterness,’ she says. ‘My accident is well recorded. I had 23 operations, I am five inches shorter than I used to be and I was in hospital for six months. It was just awful, but it wasn’t the reason for my divorce.

‘My marriage ended because John McCain didn’t want to be 40, he wanted to be 25. You know that happens...it just does.’

Some of McCain’s acquaintances are less forgiving, however. They portray the politician as a self-centred womaniser who effectively abandoned his crippled wife to ‘play the field’. They accuse him of finally settling on Cindy, a former rodeo beauty queen, for financial reasons.

McCain was then earning little more than £25,000 a year as a naval officer, while his new father-in-law, Jim Hensley, was a multi-millionaire who had impeccable political connections.

He first met Carol in the Fifties while he was at the US Naval Academy in Annapolis. He was a privileged, but rebellious scion of one of America’s most distinguished military dynasties – his father and grandfather were both admirals.

But setting out to have a good time, the young McCain hung out with a group of young officers who called themselves the ‘Bad Bunch’.

His primary interest was women and his conquests ranged from a knife-wielding floozy nicknamed ‘Marie, the Flame of Florida’ to a tobacco heiress.

Carol fell into his fast-living world by accident. She escaped a poor upbringing in Philadelphia to become a successful model, married an Annapolis classmate of McCain’s and had two children – Douglas and Andrew – before renewing what one acquaintance calls ‘an old flirtation’ with McCain.

It seems clear she was bowled over by McCain’s attention at a time when he was becoming bored with his playboy lifestyle.

‘He was 28 and ready to settle down and he loved Carol’s children,’ recalled another Annapolis graduate, Robert Timberg, who wrote The Nightingale’s Song, a bestselling biography of McCain and four other graduates of the academy.

The couple married and McCain adopted Carol’s sons. Their daughter, Sidney, was born a year later, but domesticity was clearly beginning to bore McCain – the couple were regarded as ‘fixtures on the party circuit’ before McCain requested combat duty in Vietnam at the end of 1966.

He was assigned as a bomber pilot on an aircraft carrier in the Gulf of Tonkin.

What follows is the stuff of the McCain legend. He was shot down over Hanoi in October 1967 on his 23rd mission over North Vietnam and was badly beaten by an angry mob when he was pulled, half-drowned from a lake. Over the next five-and-a-half years in the notorious Hoa Loa Prison he was regularly tortured and mistreated.

It was in 1969 that Carol went to spend the Christmas holiday – her third without McCain – at her parents’ home. After dinner, she left to drop off some presents at a friend’s house.

It wasn’t until some hours later that she was discovered, alone and in terrible pain, next to the wreckage of her car. She had been hurled through the windscreen.

After her first series of life-saving operations, Carol was told she may never walk again, but when doctors said they would try to get word to McCain about her injuries, she refused, insisting: ‘He’s got enough problems, I don’t want to tell him.’


H. Ross Perot, a billionaire Texas businessman, future presidential candidate and advocate of prisoners of war, paid for her medical care.

When McCain – his hair turned prematurely white and his body reduced to little more than a skeleton –was released in March 1973, he told reporters he was overjoyed to see Carol again.

But friends say privately he was ‘appalled’ by the change in her appearance. At first, though, he was kind, assuring her: ‘I don’t look so good myself. It’s fine.’

He bought her a bungalow near the sea in Florida and another former PoW helped him to build a railing so she could pull herself over the dunes to the water.

‘I thought, of course, we would live happily ever after,’ says Carol. But as a war hero, McCain was moving in ever-more elevated circles.


Through Ross Perot, he met Ronald Reagan, then Governor of California. A sympathetic Nancy Reagan took Carol under her wing.

But already the McCains’ marriage had begun to fray. ‘John started carousing and running around with women,’ said Robert Timberg.

McCain has acknowledged that he had girlfriends during this time, without going into details. Some friends blame his dissatisfaction with Carol, but others give some credence to her theory of a mid-life crisis.

He was also fiercely ambitious, but it was clear he would never become an admiral like his illustrious father and grandfather and his thoughts were turning to politics.

In 1979 – while still married to Carol – he met Cindy at a cocktail party in Hawaii. Over the next six months he pursued her, flying around the country to see her. Then he began to push to end his marriage.

Carol and her children were devastated. ‘It was a complete surprise,’ says Nancy Reynolds, a former Reagan aide.

‘They never displayed any difficulties between themselves. I know the Reagans were quite shocked because they loved and respected both Carol and John.’

Another friend added: ‘Carol didn’t fight him. She felt her infirmity made her an impediment to him. She justified his actions because of all he had gone through. She used to say, “He just wants to make up for lost time.”’

Indeed, to many in their circle the saddest part of the break-up was Carol’s decision to resign herself to losing a man she says she still adores.

Friends confirm she has remained friends with McCain and backed him in all his campaigns. ‘He was very generous to her in the divorce but of course he could afford to be, since he was marrying Cindy,’ one observed.

McCain transferred the Florida beach house to Carol and gave her the right to live in their jointly-owned townhouse in the Washington suburb of Alexandria. He also agreed to pay her alimony and child support.

A former neighbour says she subsequently sold up in Florida and Washington and moved in 2003 to Virginia Beach. He said: ‘My impression was that she found the new place easier to manage as she still has some difficulties walking.’

Meanwhile McCain moved to Arizona with his new bride immediately after their 1980 marriage. There, his new father-in-law gave him a job and introduced him to local businessmen and political powerbrokers who would smooth his passage to Washington via the House of Representatives and Senate.


And yet despite his popularity as a politician, there are those who won’t forget his treatment of his first wife.

Ted Sampley, who fought with US Special Forces in Vietnam and is now a leading campaigner for veterans’ rights, said: ‘I have been following John McCain’s career for nearly 20 years. I know him personally. There is something wrong with this guy and let me tell you what it is – deceit.

‘When he came home and saw that Carol was not the beauty he left behind, he started running around on her almost right away. Everybody around him knew it.

‘Eventually he met Cindy and she was young and beautiful and very wealthy. At that point McCain just dumped Carol for something he thought was better.

‘This is a guy who makes such a big deal about his character. He has no character. He is a fake. If there was any character in that first marriage, it all belonged to Carol.’

One old friend of the McCains said: ‘Carol always insists she is not bitter, but I think that’s a defence mechanism. She also feels deeply in his debt because in return for her agreement to a divorce, he promised to pay for her medical care for the rest of her life.’


Carol remained resolutely loyal as McCain’s political star rose. She says she agreed to talk to The Mail on Sunday only because she wanted to publicise her support for the man who abandoned her.

Indeed, the old Mercedes that she uses to run errands displays both a disabled badge and a sticker encouraging people to vote for her ex-husband. ‘He’s a good guy,’ she assured us. ‘We are still good friends. He is the best man for president.’

But Ross Perot, who paid her medical bills all those years ago, now believes that both Carol McCain and the American people have been taken in by a man who is unusually slick and cruel – even by the standards of modern politics.

‘McCain is the classic opportunist. He’s always reaching for attention and glory,’ he said.

‘After he came home, Carol walked with a limp. So he threw her over for a poster girl with big money from Arizona. And the rest is history.’

Additional reporting by Paul Henderson in Virginia Beach and William Lowther in Washington
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 07:28 PM
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1. It demonstrates a "Johnnie Tailhook" attitude
Women are accessories to "Johnnie Tailhook", just like cars and a rolex.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 07:30 PM
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2. Hmmm... did McSame ever attend any of the infamous tailhook
parties of the 80's and 90's before they got outed? Inquiring minds want to know. Seems like it would be odd if he didn't attend.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 07:31 PM
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3. It would be quite odd if he did
he was a politician by the 1980's.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 07:40 PM
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7. Fine. 70s.
But the 80s were way looser than the post Monica world.
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 07:32 PM
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4. I vote: valid...
...it's as much a part of his story as being a war hero. The fact that he applied for active duty after a year of marriage and the birth of his first child?

I told my husband I wouldn't have waited for him to divorce me.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 07:37 PM
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5. It is to me
I don't get how all these Republicans have multiple marriages in the scummiest of circumstances, and yet we get the poor family values label. This may be all it takes to keep those pro-life evangelicals at home.
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nonobadfish Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 07:41 PM
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9. Are the evangelicals aware of this? I haven't seen much coverage of his past except the POW part
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 07:43 PM
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12. I doubt it, I didn't
until the last couple weeks. I thought I knew quite a bit about McCain, especially his POW experience. I knew he was remarried, but I never knew the circumstances about his ex-wife.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 07:38 PM
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6. Valid. He left her for a shot at politics.
And yet we are to believe that he isn't driven by political expediency?

Political expediency has been his policy from day one. And this issue highlights that.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 07:40 PM
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8. "Character" may be the most important matter, IMO,
and is perfectly legitimate to explore; I expect there's more to harvest re: McC.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 07:41 PM
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10. It says a lot about him as a person
none of it good. OTOH, recall Newt Gingrich telling his wife he wanted a divorce when she was still in the hospital recovering from cancer surgery. Really despicable. Yet the news media gave him a pass.

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nonobadfish Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 07:44 PM
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13. Good point. OzarkDem, are you in the Arkansas or Missouri Ozarks?
How do you think Obama will do in those mountain communities?
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 08:20 PM
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21. From the Missouri Ozarks
but live in Ohio now.
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nonobadfish Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:08 PM
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29. I'm close to the Arkansas Ozarks...but thanks for representing in Ohio now!
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 07:42 PM
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11. simply put, the man is a creep n/t
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 07:45 PM
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14. Don't expect any of this to turn up in the
corporate media in this country. As far as they're concerned, it wouldn't be an issue unless the candidate in question is a Dem.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 07:48 PM
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15. It makes it doubly obnoxious for him to say gays can't have equal rights because we need to respect
Edited on Mon Jun-09-08 07:48 PM by SemiCharmedQuark
the sanctity of marriage.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 07:49 PM
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16. barry goldwater could`t stand him......that says a lot
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 07:51 PM
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17. One thing I don't understand
Why was Perot paying for her medical care? She was the dependent wife of an active duty officer. She was entitled to free full medical care at any military hospital.
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nonobadfish Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 07:57 PM
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18. Wonder if that part is true?
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 07:59 PM
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19. Perot was very much into POWs and aid to their families in the late 60s.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/11/17/nixon.papers/index.html

This was llikely a visible extension of that.

I doubt she was treated at a military hospital.
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 08:26 PM
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22. Why would you doubt that?
First, she was the wife of a high profile POW officer and the daughter-in-law of a high profile admiral. She wouldn't be pushed to the curb. Second, say what you will about military medicine and I can. It sucks when it comes to preventive medicine and psychological care, but physical trauma treatment, none better. Further, in the unlikely event the military system couldn't care for her, the government still would have been responsible for her financial support vis-a-vis medical treatment.

Now, if she elected private treatment in a civilian hospital, that's something else and the article should say so, if so.

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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 08:14 PM
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20. Some say this should not be part of the discussion
I completely disagree, McCain himself said anything the American people want to discuss should be new worthy, of course at the time he was talking about Obama vs Rev Wright.

Speaking of Obama lets flip the scrip, Ok lets say at 40 Obama left his Criple wife and married a month later to a woman who is 18 years younger.

Obama is 46 now, If McCain was 46 when he ran he would have been only 6 years removed
please don't tell me this would not be on all the news pages, just because McCain got the benefit of 30 years passed on when all this went down, he was still a grown man and it was a shitty thing to do

and it certainly goes to his character, it's clear he was cheating on his wife before the marriage came to an end. and If he had attempted to run for POTUS after being only 6 years removed from that, he never would have gotten past the first primary, infact I don't the party would have allowed him to run. So why should he get a shake on it now.
Just because he has the benefit of time?
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scarface2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 08:26 PM
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23. ex wife should be speaker at democratic convention...
and tell us what that asshole is really like!!!
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 08:28 PM
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24. I'm more concerned that he called his current wife a cunt
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 08:30 PM
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25. As a personal choice, it's a valid choice to make.
Edited on Mon Jun-09-08 08:33 PM by mutley_r_us
He's entitled to leave his wife if he is not happy with her for whatever reason.

As a presidential candidate who claims to have character, and to be "for the family", he's full of shit.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 09:34 PM
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26. Valid Issue. What will women think about John McCain when they hear this sad story?
I think the same demos that are difficult for Obama (white women over 50) will be shocked to find out this sordid little part of McCain's history.
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mainman232 Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 09:36 PM
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27. valid
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 09:39 PM
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28. If he weren't running on this "I am a man of honor" bullshit it wouldn't be
quite so offensive.
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