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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 08:18 PM
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Forget What Clinton Did Wrong -- What Did Obama Do Right?
Forget What Clinton Did Wrong -- What Did Obama Do Right?
Jane Hamsher
Posted June 9, 2008 | 08:57 PM (EST)



There have been numerous postmortems about "what Clinton did wrong," but I don't think that can really be analyzed outside of "what Obama did right."

Much of it was laid out in a fascinating article in the Atlantic by Joshua Green, where he recounts Obama's early courting of Silicon Valley techies and the social networking architecture they subsequently helped to build. It turned his campaign into a virtual machine for organizing volunteers and generating money:

When My.BarackObama.com launched, at the start of the campaign, its lineage was clear. The site is a social-networking hub centered on the candidate and designed to give users a practically unlimited array of ways to participate in the campaign. You can register to vote or start your own affinity group, with a listserv for your friends. You can download an Obama news widget to stay current, or another one (which Spinner found) that scrolls Obama's biography, with pictures, in an endless loop. You can click a "Make Calls" button, receive a list of phone numbers, and spread the good news to voters across the country, right there in your home. You can get text-message updates on your mobile phone and choose from among 12 Obama-themed ring tones, so that each time Mom calls you will hear Barack Obama cry "Yes we can!" and be reminded that Mom should register to vote, too.

"We've tried to bring two principles to this campaign," Rospars told me. "One is lowering the barriers to entry and making it as easy as possible for folks who come to our Web site. The other is raising the expectation of what it means to be a supporter. It's not enough to have a bumper sticker. We want you to give five dollars, make some calls, host an event. If you look at the messages we send to people over time, there's a presumption that they will organize."

The true killer app on My.BarackObama.com is the suite of fund-raising tools. You can, of course, click on a button and make a donation, or you can sign up for the subscription model, as thousands already have, and donate a little every month. You can set up your own page, establish your target number, pound your friends into submission with e-mails to pony up, and watch your personal fund-raising "thermometer" rise. "The idea," Rospars says, "is to give them the tools and have them go out and do all this on their own." The organizing principle behind Obama's Web site, in other words, is the approach Mark Gorenberg used with such success--only scaled to such a degree that it has created an army of more than a million donors and raisers. The Clinton campaign belatedly sought to mimic Obama's Internet success, and has raised what in any other context would be considered significant money online--but nothing like Obama's totals, in dollars or donors. John McCain's online fund-raising has been abysmal.


I remember being at an Obama event in Iowa, and the row of volunteers at each door was four people deep. You weren't getting in there without giving some bit of personal contact information. Got a cell phone? Scott Goodstein ran their text messaging campaign. Enter your zip code and you'll be activated when volunteers are needed in a particular state. The way the campaign worked volunteers into a system orchestrated by professional organizers was staggering both in its scope and its efficiency. They built an email list that is estimated to be somewhere between 4 and 8 million, some say as high as 10. Then they worked it. And worked it. Every email solicitation is now a fundraising motherlode.

more...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jane-hamsher/forget-what-clinton-did-w_b_106171.html
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 08:19 PM
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1. This is a far better approach to the analysis! Hillary Clinton was a strong
candidate, but Obama and his campaign were brilliant.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 08:21 PM
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4. Yes, I do prefer optimism to criticism, especially now when it doesn't
matter. I'm done pissing people off, and refuse to let them do that to me. :hi:
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 08:25 PM
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6. You never pissed me off- I admired your support of Senator Obama.
And now we are definitely on the same page. :toast:

Will I see you in D.C. at President Obama's inauguration?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 08:33 PM
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12. I'm seriously considering it. I've never been to one before, and this
will be historic! :toast:
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 08:42 PM
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14. I live near D.C., but I have boycotted the last two....
for obvious reasons. :banghead:
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 08:24 AM
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33. delete
Edited on Tue Jun-10-08 08:25 AM by niceypoo
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 06:15 PM
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42. Any Dem campaign would be brilliant once you subtract the traitorous Clinton loyalists.
Who thinks Clinton loyalists in crucial positions for the Dem party had any interest in Gore or Kerry winning in 2000 and 2004?

Sabotage R Us c2000-2004 = Hillary2008.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 08:20 PM
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2. Obama is Web 2.0
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 08:20 PM
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3. Have David run a smear/lie campaign while Obama maintained his halo
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 08:21 PM
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5. 1.5 days. nt
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:22 PM
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20. Dear papau... let's unite.
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PM7nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 08:27 PM
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7. K&R.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 08:28 PM
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8. TEH SEXXXY...
.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 08:28 PM
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9. He managed to avoid personal blame
for the smears his campaign ran. Good old-school Chicago politics - good for him.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 08:32 PM
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11. Like that guilt by association/Wright? Yea, he sure avoided that.
Smears? Don't even go there; your gal ran up quite a list. Please get off this thread; this wasn't intended to slam Obama or Clinton, but you've managed to pollute it.

You too have 1.5 days to 'get over it'.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:24 PM
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21. C'mon Money...
We need to be positive and unite.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:30 PM
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22. He also avoided the Classism wedge issue where he was called an elitist
and avoided having to denounce Farrakhan, simply because his pastor knew him.

Wish he could have avoided Hillary Forcing him to renounce AND denounce Farrakahn, the way that Ed Rendell appeared to have avoided Hillary's wrath: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXum_-8I1TA
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:44 PM
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24. wasnt hillary raised in chicago?
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 03:17 PM
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36. Jesus, give it a rest. Obama won fair and square.
If HRC had gone over the top in delegates last Tuesday night, we would all have accepted it and moved on right then.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 07:20 PM
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43. LOLOL!
Yeah, sure ya would. That's just laughable.

If all the supers had gone to Hillary and given her the nomination, you guys would be rioting.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 05:54 PM
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39. Get it out of your system. n/t
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 08:28 PM
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10. Most of all, he watched, he listened, he paid attention.
I selected my first dog, a black lab, by visiting the litter in my neighbor's basement.

Some pups were napping, some were rolling around, others were playing.

One female pup was sitting up straight, watching everything, watching me.

I chose her and took her right home that night.

She turned out to be the smartest pet ever, able to scale chain link fences as a puppy and extension ladders when older, and dive to the bottom of the deep end of pools, all without training.

That's Obama, I can't help but think that he asked a lot of the right questions and listened to all answers with an open mind.

He bucked convention, he played not just by the rules, he "played the rules", learning how to work the caucuses and district delegate distribution algebra.

He's different, he's smart, and among the "litter" of candidates, I picked him almost immediately.

I'd take him home tonight, if I could.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 08:41 PM
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13. The "pick of the litter."
You just know it when you see it. :D
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 08:53 PM
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17. I love your puppy dog analogy..
Obama had to be like that to get this thing done.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 08:46 PM
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15. I read that article by Joshua Green
a few weeks ago and I did find it fascinating.

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200806/obama-finance

<snip> From your article..

"The effect this has all had on modern politics has yet to be measured. But think about it: in February, the month that Obama raised $55 million, he did not host one single fundraiser. Clinton, on the other hand, was tied to a system where her time was spent courting big-dollar donors. Which has the effect (potentially) of freeing a candidate from saying one thing to the public, with a wink-wink, nudge-nudge to the folks writing the checks. Now the public are the folks writing the checks."



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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 08:49 PM
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16. I voted for him because he knows the price of arugula...
Seriously, the number of missteps Obama made by the time January rolled around were virtually non-existent. Compare this with all the drama coming out of other campaigns, or the gaff a day operation that McCain has been running recently.

Bottom line, Obama's campaign hums like a machine.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 09:57 PM
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18. I know a lot of people who flipped when they heard the gas tax pandering
Hillary said it, then McCain, or vise versa, while Barack came out did the right thing and said "it ain't gonna work, people.", which is courage, integrity, and honesty in one simple stroke.

Of course, more than a few voters were sucked into the seduction, the kind who are brain-numb and don't want to think and, as it turns out, fall for all kinds of Bull Shit!

But, my brother and two women at work mentioned that single issue among the reasons they changed their minds.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:14 PM
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19. barack had david axelrod and hillary had mark penn
david and barack had a plan ,had the people to carry out the plan,and most important had a message that he never deviated from...hillary failed on all these.
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:42 PM
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23. that anti-gay gospel thing was a stroke of genius. nt.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:47 PM
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27. LOL
It really was a winner.
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:48 PM
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28. lets be honest...it worked. Of course, now we don't seem so open to letting bigots in the big tent.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 03:19 PM
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37. We've proven over and over that he didn't invite McClurkin with the intent of him gaybashing
We've proven he didn't know McClurkin would do that. How long are you going to hold onto that one?

It's enough that Obama is solidly pro-gay on the issues. One preacher doesn't cancel that.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 05:50 PM
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38. Ole cboy just can't let it go; I hope it doesn't get him TSed after
tomorrow.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 05:56 PM
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40. Whining is good for the soul. n/t
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:46 PM
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25. he kept it truthful
he kept it classy
he is an awesome speaker
he is just more politically gifted
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Lord Helmet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:46 PM
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26. Obama is a strategic and tactical genius.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 11:08 PM
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29. Absolutely brilliant setup of the teleprompters. A+
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 07:48 AM
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30. But compare Obama reading them to McCain. I'd say it has a lot
to do with the delivery. Who ya gonna believe?
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 11:11 AM
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35. You should always believe the person who speaks well.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 05:57 PM
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41. Bitter much? n/t
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 07:52 AM
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31. Obama has been the same person with the same message ever since he got into politics
In addition to his message of bottom-up change being right for this year, he was as consistent as his opponent was inconsistent. There were three of four different Hillarys in this campaign; by the time she figured out which version worked best, it was too late.

Life is so much easier when you know who you are.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 08:57 AM
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34. "Life is so much easier when you know who you are." I love that-so true. nt
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 08:10 AM
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32. He didn't behave like a Repuke, he isn't a member of the DLC (n/t)
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