Sen Hillary Clinton RELEASES her delegates late last night.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

Hillary Clinton on Monday asked Democratic primary delegates who would have supported her in her presidential bid to back her former rival Barack Obama.

The request came in a Monday night teleconference, said Virgil J. Mayberry, a Rock Island County Board member and one of Sen. Clinton's delegates.

Sen. Clinton threw her support behind Sen. Obama Saturday after suspending her campaign.

"She wants us to unite behind Obama and help him," said Mr. Mayberry, who chairs his party's minority caucus on the county board.

Mr. Mayberry said Sen. Clinton talked for about five minutes to Democratic national convention delegates from all over the country. She appeared upbeat, he said.

"Over the phone, she seemed jovial," he said. "I can't say happy-happy, but she was talking to her people."

According to Mr. Mayberry, she also thanked the delegates for their support and said she planned on continuing to pursue health care as a major issue for the party during the upcoming campaign.

http://qconline.com/archives/qco/display.php?id=390566


let's see how many recs this news gets

[NJmaverick]

1. Good for her!

:applause:

[Radio_Lady]

103. Here is one blog which reported the action:

From: http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/06/clinton_asks_pledged_delegates.php

Clinton Asks Pledged Delegates To Support Obama (Updated)

10 Jun 2008 12:25 pm

Multiple Democratic sources say that Sen. Hillary Clinton, in a series of private conversations and conference calls, continues to urge her pledged delegates to vote for Barack Obama at the Democratic National Convention. Clinton plans a series of calls with superdelegates, interest groups and state delegations over the next few days. (One of them took place last night, according to this report from Iowa's Quad Cities-Globe-Gazette.)

“She’s doing calls with supports and delegates and various other groups of supporters,” said Mo Elliethee, a spokesperson. “What she did was reiterate what she said on Saturday. She thanked them for their hard work and their dedication and all that they did for her and celebrated some of the accomplishments of her campaign…. And she urged them to get behind Sen. Obama and to work just as hard to elect him president.”

A Clinton spokesman said that Clinton is not technically releasing her delegates -- doing so would cause many of them to be dropped from the slate -- but noted that both Bill Bradley and Howard Dean did not formally release their slates until their conventions.

Still, Clinton's moves this week suggest that she opposes grassroots efforts by some of her supporters to hang on until the convention and submit Clinton's name for president or vice president. It also suggests that her campaign does not intend to challenge the DNC rules and bylaws committee decision to award Obama some of Clinton's delegates from Michigan. Pledged delegates and superdelegates can vote for whomever they want, but a split convention -- even if the split was lopsided -- would no doubt embarrass Obama.

MORE AT LINK (ABOVE)

[Max_powers94]

2. That is great but I still would keep a little eye on her and Bill.

I am all for unity but it something about the Clintons that concerns me. Sorry that how I feel.

[Evergreen Emerald]

3. what?

are you talking about?

[hokies4ever]

87. The reputation of the Clintons

nothing much (pun intended! :rofl: )

[Name removed]

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[MyNameGoesHere]

6. because that is easier than working for the nominee?

hey shouldn't you be working towards electing Obama instead of bashing a positive move forward?

[hokies4ever]

88. It's not bashing

Hillary is done, plain and simple.

[SeaLyons]

8. Why?

[Max_powers94]

17. I am all for unity but it something about the Clintons that concerns me. Sorry that is how I feel.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

78. I feel the same way - but I got flamed royally and thread locked

over it. I have to say, I am surprised about this turn of events. I think
that I was the only one on earth - except some people on TPM Cafe - that
thought her speech lacked the most important part. Sure, it will encourage
the people who probably would have migrated to O anyway, to do so. But,
what it lacked was a plea to those who believed her when she said he
wasn't capable or ready to be prez. That's what he needed - but maybe
that's what happens when a fellow democrat trashed another in a primary.
It's hard to take it back. "He's a million times more capable than
McCain." would have been nice.

Ill change my mind when I see her in WV campaigning for him. Right now
it just seems like a subtle agreement between her and McCain. McCain
can have my staunch supporters - I can have a shot at 2012. It's all
very subtle - but it's there.

I almost threw up hearing Laura Bush and Kay Baily praising her. Like
either of them would ever consider it.

I know, I am totally alone on this one. Hope I am wrong.

[Bette Noir]

105. You're not the only one.

She said a lot about sexism in her "concession" speech, but no apology for pandering to racists in her own bid to get the nomination. I trust her exactly as far as I can throw her.

[Kahuna]

111. I agree with you. The one thing lacking in her speech was praise of

Obama as a person. The way she listed why people should vote for Obama vs. McCain, she could have been talking about Candidate X. Never did she state any attribute that makes Obama different from any unnamed Democrat.

[Fire_brand]

28. what more does she have to do?

[Max_powers94]

36. She does not have to do anything...I have to get over it.

[gal]

55. I agree with you and feel the same way. I do not trust them and it's their own fault.

Time is what it is going to take for people on both sides. The Clinton fans are not the only ones that need time to accept the other candidate as being open in their mist. People should be considerate on both sides, both sides have their reasons.

[skyounkin]

108. I commend you for recognizing that

n/t

[genna]

42. I have criticized Clinton consistently but YOU SHOULD GET OVER IT

Yes, she was not gracious.
No, she did not concede.
Yes, it was all about dividing and conquering each demographic in the primary.
No, I don't want her for VP.
Yes, I think Bill Clinton's scandals will envelop the entire presidential race should Barack Obama tie himself to Hillary Clinton as VP.
YES, I will vote for BHO if HRC is his nominee.

On and on and on I could go.

BUT EVENTUALLY it does have to become about what will HAPPEN as opposed to what just HAPPENED.

Let us MOVE ON.


Maybe your paranoia is completely reasonable considering how disconnected from this reality HRC has been in the primary...but LET US ALL MOVE PASS (ie. not forgetting just passing by like we would an unfortunate car accident) AND DRIVE TO OUR TRUE DESTINATION. The wreckage might haunt us emotionally for years, but we do have to live a full life after the wreckage (I must say that is a little more dramatic than I really intended...but please for the love all that is holy MOVE ON!).

[Blue-Jay]

61. Oh, stop it.

Jeez.

[niceypoo]

84. You are obsessed with them

Just like the freepers

[Heather MC]

86. You are not Alone, I don't trust her,

I think we got fed a lame song and dance on the news about why she only suspended her campaign but didn't conceded. Those words are used for a reason, and Hillary is extremely caluclating

By giving Premission to support Barack she can always attempt to pull their support back to her
if she needed them too.

She still has surrogates like Lanny Davis saying should be on the ticket
and tonight on the Verdict
Jerry Springer suggested that Obama would appear weak if he doesn't pick Hillary for VP
saying, "If Hillary is not selected it will be the preception that Barack Obama can't handle her
that will make him weak"

Can't be trusted

[HughMoran]

89. wow

paranoia is a dangerous condition

[Heather MC]

93. R U suggesting I am being paranoid? If so read more, If not kewl

TO quote Hillary, "There's a pattern there"

*Breaking* Hillary has Definitely NOT Released Delegates (& Call to Action)

Site: http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com

In an earlier story, No Quarter rushed to counter a rumor started today at Taylor Marsh, which published the headline Hillary Releases Delegates, linking to a quote from a delegate who was reportedly on a conference call with Clinton and Ickes last night. Apparently the rumor is now spreading like wildfire across the blogs, including at Politico.
The rumor is FALSE.
I have just received an e-mail message from Mary Boergers, a former Maryland State Senator and a pledged Clinton delegate. Mary was on the conference call with Hillary Clinton last night, and she has given us permission to publish her message in full:


<B>
I was on that conference call and there was nothing in Hillary’s comments to indicate that she was releasing her delegates and urging them to vote for Obama on the first vote in Denver. In fact what Harold Ikes said was that the campaign would like to keep Hillary’s delegates together so that she can more effectively fight for issues like universal health care to make sure it is included in the party platform.
</B>



This seems like deliberate misinformation. (Sound familiar!)
One of the super delegates who was in London in fact complained about the strong arm pressure from the Obama campaign to immediately (last Friday before Hillary’s speech) switch their vote to Obama.
So to me the strategy is clear. The Obama folks want to try and prevent us from nominating Hillary at the convention and voting for her at the convention. We need to STOP this. Historically losing candidates always have their names put into nomination, give a great speech and then there is a roll call vote. The presumptive nominee gets the majority and then there may be a call to make it unanimous.
We need to make sure that people are aware of this procedure. Once again the Obama people are trying to change the rule of the game, pretending that they were always the rules in order to push Hillary aside. We must keep them from succeeding.
To me this is the most important thing that we can do right now. We need to attack Howard Dean for saying that he hopes there isn’t a role call vote at the convention.
This pressure, heavy handed tactics and “shot gun” marriage effort must end. This is the fight that we need to continue!
Mary Boergers
To repeat Mary’s call to action: We need to attack Howard Dean for saying that he hopes there isn’t a role call at the convention.

Dan Boren, OK, refuses to endorse Obama. Here are his words, which I find totally unacceptable.


U.S. Rep. Dan Boren, D-Okla., said Tuesday he will not endorse Barack Obama for president.

"I still remain very concerned about the (Obama) voting record being the most liberal of the United States Senate,’’ said Boren, a superdelegate to this summer’s national Democratic convention in Denver. He expressed support for what he described as a "centrist” agenda, adding his party’s presumptive nominee’s record does not reflect that approach.

Boren won't endorse Obama



Joining him is Nancy Boyda, Blue Dog from KS.


Nancy Boyda of Kansas represents a district that is part of Obama’s family story — his mother was born into a military family at Fort Leavenworth and has ties in the area around the University of Kansas.

But Boyda probably won’t be escorting Obama around campus in the foreseeable future, and she says she may even skip the convention. “I’m going to stay focused on doing my job. The good people of Kansas are fine with that,’’ Boyda said."

Blue Dogs keep their distance from Obama



Also mentioned in the CQ article are Blue Dog Charlie Wilson of Ohio, Don Cazayoux of Louisiana, and Charlie Melancon of Louisiana.

More from the article:


Barack Obama’s Democratic colleagues in the Senate seem ready to turn to the fall campaign and rally behind him as the party’s soon-to-be presidential nominee.

But in the House, some members of the Blue Dog Coalition of conservative Democrats say they’ll keep their distance from Obama, at least until after the party formally nominates the Illinois senator at the Democratic National Convention in late August.

Of the roughly 30 House members who have yet to declare a preference in the presidential primaries, which ended June 3, 16 are Blue Dogs.


Florida's Blue Dogs Allen Boyd and Tim Mahoney are not planning to endorse. Mahoney said he doesn't "owe the party anything."

I found myself chilled after reading this article about the goals of this group. They are like a party within the party, and they have their own concerns....and they don't like what they call "liberals.

Blue Dogs building sway on the campaign trail


"Tanner and "Blue Dog" Democrats — conservative fiscal hawks "choked blue" by their party's liberal flank — are building their own political operation to propel like-minded candidates to victory this fall. They're also quietly raising their own influence within a party personified by liberals like Sens. Edward Kennedy and presidential candidate Barack Obama and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

..""The Blue Dog philosophy is catching on in a lot of the country," Tanner said in an interview in the Capitol. "The American people are looking for pragmatists rather than ideologically driven candidates, and they want people who pledge allegiance to the country first and to a political party second."

Added Charlie Melancon, D-La., "The candidates who can win now are the ones that are like us."


They are in opposition to much legislation that many of us think should be passed.


That dilemma has already flared on Capitol Hill. Blue Dogs recently blocked Pelosi's plan to tack a multibillion-dollar GI education benefit onto an Iraq war spending bill without paying for it, thus adding to the rising deficit. The conservative revolt within their party forced Democratic leaders to cancel a vote on the measure and add a tax surcharge on millionaires to finance the program.

"Sometimes we stand between (Democratic leaders) and the rest of the caucus that wants to do every program in the world and not pay for it," said Allen Boyd, D-Fla., who joined Tanner and Melancon campaigning for Childers. Of the recent Iraq measure, Boyd said, "We put our foot down and said, 'You know, if you don't pay for it, we're not going to help you with our votes.'"


I believe in being financially responsible...but why don't they put their collective feet down about funding this failing illegal war? They don't get irate about that...just about education benefits for veterans.

They are so responsible financially that against the pleas of most of us, against all common sense...they joined with New Dems to give us the 2005 Bankruptcy Bill. Many are losing their homes now through no fault of their own because of illness, such as the elderly and caregivers who have nowhere to turn.

The Blue Dogs and the New Dems sold us out on the Bankruptcy Bill.


Guess what is NOT in the bankruptcy bill. There is a lack of exemptions for the ill, the disabled, the elderly who might have large bills from ill health....nothing to protect their homes and cars.

It does not exempt debtors whose financial problems were caused by serious medical problems from means testing. It does not provide protection for medical debt homeowners. Homes and cars could be lost under this new plan if you have medical problems.

It does not preserve existing bankruptcy protections for
individuals experiencing economic distress as caregivers to ill or disabled family members.

There is no provision to insure elderly people in financial trouble who seek bankruptcy could keep their homes. Republicans voted down a provision for it, and 3 Democrats from states with big credit card industries joined them.

Making the minimum payment on a credit card can often cause you to go
further in debt with the credit card company. An amendment was voted down by all Republicans and a few Democrats that would have required this disclosure on the danger of minimum payments.


The Republicans when they controlled Congress really and truly controlled it. They were loyal to what they believed, wrong-headed as it was.

That segment of our party in Congress is not really a part of the Democratic party. They have said their own priorities come first as shown in the bankruptcy bill.

The worst part is this statement from the link above: "The coalition has more than enough members to deprive Democrats of the votes they need to push through any piece of legislation over Republican objections, particularly given the party's slim margin of control — they control 236 seats to Republicans' 199.

I don't know about others, but Mahoney is now being mocked by Republicans for his fear of taking a stand with his party. He doesn't even seem to be ashamed of it.

I call it political cowardice to refuse to stand with the nominee because you might lose your seat in Congress.

****************************************************************************

[HughMoran]

94. Pure horseshit - I'll bet you $100000 you're wrong

:eyes:

[Heather MC]

99. Hope your are right,

but I have a question, if Obama has already said publically that Hillary will be instramental in the Healthcare program
and he has already enlisted the help of Elizabeth Edwards, some one who openly supported Hillary's healthcare plan.

Why does she need to hold on to her delegates, to make sure her platform of healthcare is focused on?

And Why doesn't Hillary come out and make a strong public stance against all her supporters who are openly and unashamedly saying they will not support Obama?

And why is she still having conference calls, that don't include releasing her delegates?

She is scum she can't be trusted, and this to shall blow up in her face, just like all the other bullshit tricks she tried to pull during the primary.

and I would take you up on the bet, but I know I would never get my money

[sallyseven]

113. I guess you don't like low unemployment,

stable economy, respect in the world, deficit elimination and paying down the national debt. Relative peace and opportunity for so many people. Real education reform. No better to bash the Clintons. I wonder about you. I guess you love Bush and John McLame.

[Inuca]

4. Good news and good for Hillary n/t

[goclark]

21. Now that the HC that I thought I knew!

Good for her ~ that was classy. :hug:

[scheming daemons]

7. Good for her..... maybe Obama promised her "health care czar" in return?

[ElsewheresDaughter]

9. which she rightly earned if he did

[scheming daemons]

12. I agree....

[Zhade]

82. If she were in that position, we'd have to hope she doesn't try for Health Insurance Care again.

NT!

[endarkenment]

10. My estimation of Clinton has increased daily since Saturday.

She appears to being doing exactly what good Democrats do: we fight each other like hell in the primaries and then join together to fight like hell in the general election. Good for her!

[BlooInBloo]

11. Ah - good to hear.

[Politics_Guy25]

14. awesome-n/t

[democrattotheend]

13. Wow, I'm surprised

I thought she wanted to hang onto them...any idea why the change? In any event, good for her.

[cap]

20. I think it would be a historical marker to see the count in a roll call

I'm actually sorry she is letting them go... but maybe there is other political pressures on the delegates that I don't know about that is forcing this move.

[SwampG8r]

38. historical yes

but many of her more rabid supporters would have used it as a cover for working against the nominee
right up until that roll call
im glad to see she has chosen a less divisive path
goodfor you hillary

[democrattotheend]

44. Good point. I was worried about them being disruptive in Denver.

And I still am, a little bit. At the RBC meeting they kept yelling in the middle of the meeting, and I am afraid some of those people might be Clinton delegates who might make trouble in Denver. I could even see them interrupting Obama's acceptance speech, which would really be a downer. Hopefully this will make that less likely, and hopefully her campaign can talk to their delegates before the convention and make it clear they don't want any disruptions. She will probably get to speak at the Convention (I hope she does) but probably before Obama, so there is no incentive for those who want to disrupt Obama not to do so.

[cap]

45. I think the pain might be dissipated by then..

so the chance for disruption will be minimized. Really, the best thing to do is to reinvigorate the women's movement and have Obama up the platform in favor of women.

[Tellurian]

40. The OP title is no where to be found in the linked article..

The word "released" is not found anywhere in the article. All she's asking her delegates to do is support him. I don't see where they have been released from her suspended campaign. Misleading Yellow Journalism from another zealot!

[Renew Deal]

47. Misleading parsing from another dead ender.

It's over. Time to accept it and help elect Obama.

[Name removed]

58. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[sellitman]

60. You calling anyone a zealot is rich.

Oh by the way... Barack is 44.

:}~

[Zhade]

83. hillary isn't 44.

And calling someone ELSE a zealot? I love irony!

[madrchsod]

112. where`s your "hillary is 44"?

i see you still have`t gotten over the fact that she lost

[ekwhite]

15. Good for her!

It's good to see her come around after a tough loss and support Senator Obama.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

16. Good for her.

:thumbsup:

[Window]

18. Wonderful! Way to go Hillary. K/R.

:kick:

[slinkerwink]

19. I saw that. She gained back my respect for that. I'm proud of her standing up for party unity.

[TlalocW]

22. The topic makes it sound like she drove them out into the woods and let them go

Back into their natural habitats. Fly away, little delegates... fly away. :)

TlalocW

[ElsewheresDaughter]

25. hehehe it does

[Bucky]

37. The captive breeding program was too expensive

[TlalocW]

51. Well, I hope the budget had enough money in it

That we were able to tag them so we can track their migratory patterns to learn more about these majestic creatures.

TlalocW

[cui bono]

75. And the profits from the harvesting did not meet expectations. n/t

[Inuca]

57. Thanks for the laugh!!! n/t

[polmaven]

62. And what a lovely,

large flock they were!

[grantcart]

23. Thanks for posting this - strange that it hasn't been reported by major outlets

[crankychatter]

26. It's a second hand report of a conference call to a county delegation

from what I read on newsmax (take that with a grain of salt), she simply reiterated her position that delegates are free to switch their votes if they so desire.

until I get a transcript of that call, and/or specific language is directed at a national audience, I will take it for what it's worth...

a middle of the night, second hand story

[cbc5g]

33. Interesting replies on that page ....... n/t

[mamalone]

24. Well done Hillary!

Thank you from the bottom of my chubby lil heart:loveya:

[livetohike]

27. Thank you Sen. Clinton

She did the right thing, especially if she doesn't want to be shunned when she returns to her Senate position.

[SwampG8r]

41. im going to use your post to illustrate a point

im not picking on you i swear
i was doing this too and i caught myself and stopped



obama supporters (i am one and i got in early)
read twice and post once
i am glad to see so many of us opening our arms to hillary again
but even pro hillary replies from obama supporters on DU more often than not come with a snark attached


this would have been a nice post if the poster had stopped, thought, and used a period instead of a comma after "she did the right thing"
the other stuff is what we need to stop
"especially if she doesn't want to be shunned when she returns to her Senate position."
it steals the good feeling from a well intentioned reply
and frankly it makes us (obama supporters) lokk a little petty
hillary is making the effort and im willing to give her the benefit of the doubt

[livetohike]

52. What I said is the truth as I see it

and if that is somehow offensive to you then so be it. I don't want to start a flame war over this, but it's a sad day when someone can't express their opinion here without being made an example of. That is your opinion of my statement. I don't think I represent all Obama supporters.

Why should I "open my arms to Hillary"? She doesn't speak for me as a middle aged woman and she never did. I hope she can do some good in her Senate position. Perhaps with an Obama presidency, she will be able to get things done now.

Politically, she did what she had to do to be a team player. I hope it was sincere.

[satya]

29. I truly hope she will have a place in the administration where her brilliant mind can be utilized

to its fullest potential.

I'm still rooting for Supreme Court justice.

Thanks, Senator Clinton.

[weezie1317]

30. Woo-hoo! Goooo Hillary!!!

[Alter Ego]

31. That's a genuine surprise to me, but it's welcome nonetheless.

It'll make the convention less tense, anyway. Thanks, Hillary.

[Hugabear]

32. It's a positive step in the right direction

Hopefully she'll follow through, and help campaign to get Obama elected, regardless of who he picks as his VP.

[Lucinda]

34. I seriously doubt this

Have you seen it confirmed?

[MaineDem]

48. I'm a little skeptical, too

There is a big deal surrounding the releasing of delegates. Most likely it won't happen until the convention. I'm a bit leery of this headline right now.

[Catchawave]

53. HILLARY DID NOT RELEASE HER DELEGATES !!

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/10/hillary-has-not-released-her-delegates/#more-3026

[Inuca]

59. Doubt it, I have also seen it mentioned in the media

but I was curious enough to click on your link and read a few posts. The people over there live an alternate reality and a very scary one.

[slinkerwink]

68. she actually did release her delegates

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/06/clinton_asks_pledged_delegates.php

[Lucinda]

74. "...Clinton is not technically releasing her delegates..."

They are not released....as per your link.

[Bucky]

35. Anyone surprised by her doing this is an idiot.

Cool heads in this forum have said all along she's a loyal Dem and she'd get behind our nominee.

If I were less of a gentleman, I'd be doing a zillion "told ya so" posts right now.
Well, three "told ya so" posts per 24 hours, anyway.

[Labors of Hercules]

39. Could this be the beginning of UNANIMOUS support for Obama at the convention?

Is that even possible?

[Dinger]

43. K & R

[Stephanie]

46. Wow!

I'm honestly impressed by that. Good for her!

[tammywammy]

49. That's good news

Not that I expected her to hold on to them all the way to the convention.

[ballsalicious]

50. she will be the VP

[nsd]

54. Wow, good for her!

[EFerrari]

56. Thanks for the good news. n/t

[eleny]

63. Thank you, Sen. Clinton and I like health care being included in the call

[SemiCharmedQuark]

64. This was very gracious of her! Thanks for posting!

[Chrisnreno]

65. Good News.

[AtomicKitten]

66. Um, no. She hasn't.

from: http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/10/hillary-has-not-released-her-delegates/#more-3026

A Texas delegate who was on that Monday night call posted a comment on the blog where the unfounded rumor started:

“I am a National Delegate for Clinton from Texas. I was on the conference call. Delegates were NOT released. We were told the same thing YOU ALL were told on Saturday. That she endorsed and would work for Obama.

To use the term “released” is not accurate. She and Harold Ickes asked that we hold together because of health care issues Hillary wants on the democrat platform.

By the Way: ALL pledged delegates can vote their conscience at Denver. EVEN BO Pledged delegates can switch at Denver”

Thanks to NewHampster for finding that comment.

[slinkerwink]

69. she actually did release her delegates

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/06/clinton_asks_pledged_delegates.php

[AtomicKitten]

70. well, there apparently is some confusion about what "releasing delegates" means

[PM7nj]

71. NoQuarter?

I'm sorry but I don't believe a word posted on that hate site.

[AtomicKitten]

72. um, coming from the belly of the beast renders it relevant

However, it appears the bloggers are parsing words because Mrs. Clinton parsed hers. I seriously doubt anybody really knows for sure what Mrs. Clinton's intentions are. So far they haven't been particularly good.

[Tom Rinaldo]

73. She's doing exactly what Dean did in 2004

"A Clinton aide said there's no power play here: Clinton just wants to make sure her supporters are slated in state delegates and sent to Denver. Her camp pointed to precedent: Bradley in 2000 and Dean in 2004 didn't formally release their delegates until the convention itself."
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/

But she is urging her delegates to start supporting Obama now.

[AtomicKitten]

76. thanks Tom

I think some bloggers have knocked themselves out parsing words, further leading to the confusion.

[Zynx]

67. I'm not going to be gracious to the paranoid types anymore. They have been proven wrong

at every single turn the last week.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

80. I don't remember you being gracious, but if you say so. Us paranoid

types - just might feel like there is just too much shit to forget - or to
think there has been a magic transformation. We hope we are wrong - but
are remaining very cautious. She said/implied he wasn't ready/capable
of being president. Once you plant that seed - you can't ever take it
back. And you better believe it will be in an ad. That's what sucks
the most, to me.

But, I hope you are right - and she has had a change of heart.

[Lerkfish]

77. happy to kick and recc'd.

:kick:

[NorthAmerican]

79. Good for her. One more step to party unity! n/t

[blayne]

81. This is the email I got from Liz Nottingham, a Clinton surrogate in the Texas.

Subject: CORRECTION!!!! Hillary has NOT released her delegates


Hillary has not released her delegates by Texas Darlin posted by democrat1
06.10.2008 - 12:01 pm

Another Democratic blog posted a misleading headline today, Hillary Releases Delegates, citing a quote from a delegate who was reportedly on a conference call Monday night with Clinton and Harold Ickes.

The report is UNTRUE. It’s an unsubstantiated rumor, most likely being pushed by the DNC mafia who are now acting as if they are afraid to let Hillary’s delegates have the historic opportunity to cast their votes on the first ballot for the first viable woman candidate for President, and the candidate to whom they are pledged.

A Texas delegate who was on that Monday night call posted a comment on the blog where the unfounded rumor started:

“I am a National Delegate for Clinton from Texas. I was on the conference call. Delegates were NOT released. We were told the same thing YOU ALL were told on Saturday. That she endorsed and would work for Obama.

To use the term “released” is not accurate. She and Harold Ickes asked that we hold together because of health care issues Hillary wants on the democrat platform.

By the Way: ALL pledged delegates can vote their conscience at Denver. EVEN BO Pledged delegates can switch at Denver”

Thanks to NewHampster for finding that comment.

The Texas delegate makes it clear that Hillary DOES NOT intend to release her delegates, that the opposite is true: She wants her delegates to stick together in defense of her platform.

[klook]

85. When I Google this, the earliest source is Larry Johnson's web site!!!

Yes, the "whitey" tape hoax asshole.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

90. Did she even have to go this extra step?

I really thought when she endorsed Obama that was pretty much giving them the go ahead to back him? Isn't that how it usually works?

Forgive me for not being up on this. I've been avoiding GDP for the past several days until things settle down. I must have just now clicked on it by accident out of habit. x(

[Heather MC]

97. Oh you didn't get the Memo Hillary has her own party now, she is president of

They don't have to support the Dem nominee because they are not dems They are Hillacrats

[Lone_Star_Dem]

100. I guess someone forgot to cc me?

Typical. How can you take over a nation if you don't even know how to properly cc people? :rofl:

[Heather MC]

101. triffling ain't it!

[eridani]

91. I still say if they want to support Clinton on the first vote, that would be fine

We can all be good little yellow doggies on the second vote.

[quakerboy]

92. And thus bites the dust

the basis for many a conspiracy theory.

Sometimes they are right(yes, Bush really is out to get us all). But not every time.

[lojasmo]

95. K/R

Gobama.

[defendandprotect]

96. Ah . . . very nice HRC . . . THANK YOU!!!

I thought it was good of some of her supporters to explain to us some of the issues surrounding
when she "conceded" and how it effected money raising and that some others had held onto delegates
until later --- I thought all of that was helpful and thank you whomever it was who tried to
inform us on those issues.

[mcollier]

98. Warning - Jaw to the floor affect!

John McCain's ending video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjGYb_KtAeg

[Colobo]

102. Thanks, Hillary!

[Bette Noir]

104. Good for her.

[Bette Noir]

106. If it turns out to be true.

[HopeforChange]

107. Clinton has not Released her Delegates

I know for a fact that her supporters are planning a peaceful protest here in Houston on Thursday an Obama fundraiser luncheon.

In that email (sent today)

In that message sent out to Hillary supporters the following quote was included.


"So, there may be a "presumptive nominee" but there is no nominee - not until the votes are counted at
the convention.

Many of us believe since Hillary has not released her delegates to Obama that she may be waiting on
us for the next step. She really had no choice after the DNC dishonestly and illegally gave votes
to Obama and the pressure was unGodly."

So I don't think she has released anything. They may want people to think that right now.

I believe one of the reason that she waited until Saturday to pledge her support was to make sure that the Texas Delegates
were pledged to her before she "suspended" her campaign. I was at the convention and some Clinton folks told me that she needed the delegates so that she could go to the convention floor with them.

I am a National Delegate and will fight like Hell for Obama.

Why did Clinton need the Texas Delegates so bad ... Why did she reschedule her announcement from Friday to Saturday.

Think about it. The Party rules say if she had withdrawn then the delegates had to go to the other candidate. That did not happen.

[Willo]

109. That's interesting.

But not surprising. Hillary is going to fight to the bitter end.

[Tellurian]

114. Um...no!

"Why did she reschedule her announcement from Friday to Saturday?

I believe one of the reason that she waited until Saturday to pledge her support was to make sure that the Texas Delegates were pledged to her before she "suspended" her campaign. I was at the convention and some Clinton folks told me that she needed the delegates so that she could go to the convention floor with them."

The Anniversary of RFK's assassination was to be celebrated on Friday. If you read the article, you would realize no where does it state Hillary has released her delegates. The OP's headline is misleading.

[happygoluckytoyou]

110. Thought she released a few of them to McCain just to be safe

[ElsewheresDaughter]

115. stinking thinking!