Get r-r-r-ready to r-r-r-r-r-umble!! When Hillary was Obama's opponent, he made every effort

[hisownpetard]

to not be divisive, to not hurt the party. He was a gentleman at all times, beyond anything I've ever seen in politics.

However! Now that the primaries are over and McCain is Obama's declared opponent, I think all the rules are out the window.

Obama will still take the high road, but the gloves are off and he can feel free to tear McCain's pre-used policies to shreds,
which will not be hard to do.

Obama is brilliant, informed, diligent, wise, quick and funny.

McCain is dim, confused, distracted, not too bright, s-l-o-w and the least humorous man to come along since Ed Sullivan.

I simply can't wait!

No butter, just a little salt, please.:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

[dsomuah]

1. Now the debate begins

One of the reasons Hillary and Obama had so much difficulty competing with each other is because if you go to their websites and look at their policies, their policies are almost identical. This is why the battle tended to focus on change vs. Experience and all that other crap. This GE battle is the one Obama is built for. One where someone disagrees with his policies and he has to explain why he chose them.

[Cha]

4. Except Obama was against the War On Iraq

from the very beginning and hilary voted for it and enabled it.

And, that is what turned me off hilary.

[Saturday]

12. Obama enables it still today. He will not cut off the money. nt

[Cha]

13. Yes, he was against the war as he spoke out at an anti-war rally

when he was a State Senator on Oct 2, 2002.

<snips of Obama's "Speech">


"What I am opposed to is a dumb war. What I am opposed to is a rash war. What I am opposed to is the cynical attempt by Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz and other armchair, weekend warriors in this administration to shove their own ideological agendas down our throats, irrespective of the costs in lives lost and in hardships borne.

What I am opposed to is the attempt by political hacks like Karl Rove to distract us from a rise in the uninsured, a rise in the poverty rate, a drop in the median income - to distract us from corporate scandals and a stock market that has just gone through the worst month since the Great Depression. That's what I'm opposed to. A dumb war. A rash war. A war based not on reason but on passion, not on principle but on politics. Now let me be clear - I suffer no illusions about Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal man. A ruthless man. A man who butchers his own people to secure his own power. He has repeatedly defied UN resolutions, thwarted UN inspection teams, developed chemical and biological weapons, and coveted nuclear capacity. He's a bad guy. The world, and the Iraqi people, would be better off without him.

But I also know that Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, or to his neighbors, that the Iraqi economy is in shambles, that the Iraqi military a fraction of its former strength, and that in concert with the international community he can be contained until, in the way of all petty dictators, he falls away into the dustbin of history. I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a US occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of Al Qaeda. I am not opposed to all wars. I'm opposed to dumb wars."


<Conclusion snip>

"The consequences of war are dire, the sacrifices immeasurable. We may have occasion in our lifetime to once again rise up in defense of our freedom, and pay the wages of war. But we ought not -- we will not -- travel down that hellish path blindly. Nor should we allow those who would march off and pay the ultimate sacrifice, who would prove the full measure of devotion with their blood, to make such an awful sacrifice in vain."

<MOre of Obama's prescient speech against the War ON Iraq>
http://www.barackobama.com/2002/10/02/remarks_of_illinois_state_sen.php

[hisownpetard]

18. He had such foresight, it was incredible. What a waste of lives and treasure.

[Captain Hilts]

28. She specifically said it was not a blank check to invade Iraq and warned...

it was NOT a good idea to go after Hussein, citing the example of how Milosevic was caught and tried.

Talk's cheap and Obama has voted identically with Clinton on the war since he's been in the senate.

Capitalize 'Hillary' and learn to spell it correctly if you're going to address her.

[Cha]

30. Especially clinton's talk is way Cheap.

after she enabled bushit policies for the ensuing years until her polls said it wasn't prudent to be pushing that war shit, hilary.

And, she never did apologize..wanted to look tough for mark penn.

[bvar22]

36. And that is why we all remember Hillary raising HOLY HELL...

...when Bush* used her vote to actually start a WAR.

You remember that?

[hisownpetard]

19. McCain is gonna fall so flat on his little chipmunk face...

[thereismore]

2. McCain = used policy salesman. nt

[hisownpetard]

14. Love it!

:thumbsup:

[hisownpetard]

Love it!

:thumbsup:

[hisownpetard]

15. Love it!

:thumbsup:

[hisownpetard]

Love it!

:thumbsup:

[hisownpetard]

16. Love it!

:thumbsup:

[hisownpetard]

17. OMG - my mouse got stuck!~

[Blue-Jay]

22. Love it!

:thumbsup:

[hisownpetard]

25. Your response? Love it!

:thumbsup: :hi:

[QueenOfCalifornia]

3. Make mine

buttery --- mmmmm :popcorn:

[flpoljunkie]

7. Not that fake stuff. Actually home popped with extra virgin olive oil is very tasty!

And, has the added benefit of being good for you.

[QueenOfCalifornia]

8. Butter

on the popcorn.

Or I will cry.

[hisownpetard]

20. Well, we definitely don't want you crying. Just don't wipe your hands on your pants

and then come sit on my nice sofa...

[gateley]

33. OT --

You answered a question I just asked a friend today -- how would popcorn taste if popped in olive oil? Neither of us had any idea. Thanks!!

[TexasObserver]

5. Yeah, he's ripping McCain daily now, and doing a good job of it.

[hisownpetard]

21. And he's just getting started!

[NorthAmerican]

35. I agree. n/t

[EFerrari]

6. Obama Unbound.

lol

:hi:

[hisownpetard]

24. McCain was always at the bottom of his class (by his own admission). Intellectually speaking,

he's not gonna know what hit him when Obama starts 'debating' him.

O, Lord, it's gonna be a beautiful thing to behold!

[Captain Hilts]

9. Like a hockey star, he had others do his dirty work for him. nt

[Forkboy]

27. Show a single campaign ever that hasn't done that.

[SoCalDem]

10. A picture is worth a thousand words

This man is NOT a push-over

and Mccain is not a former first lady

[Pool Hall Ace]

23. I like that photo.

I would love to see Barack take those two heads and clunk them together, like Moe used to do with the other Stooges. :)

[tridim]

11. McCain thinks he's funny though.

In reality, he is barely able to read the joke off the cue cards.

[hisownpetard]

26. McCain's about as funny as a wart with hair growing out of it,

and about half as cute.

[NatBurner]

41. right?

it's painful to watch

[anonymous171]

29. Hillary is at least ten times more competent than McCain. nt

[Cha]

31. A salami sandwich is..

[madrchsod]

32. "rope a dope"

[roseBudd]

34. McCain was at the bottom of his class, Obama the top, he is not an Empty Suit!

[NotThisTime]

37. You are very right, he was in the bottom 5 or 10% of his class, YIKES! And they want to elect him...

Just like Dubya.... it's an embarrassment....

The Dem's have an embarrassment of RICHES, while we are too busy fighting eachother to even realize it!

[hisownpetard]

38. In the Republican party, that's a selling point.

[roseBudd]

40. I am sick of hearing certain supporters use "Empty Suit" to undermine Obama, he rode no coat tails

[yellowdogintexas]

42. I think 'empty suit' was being applied to McSame there.

Of course I could have missed some other post from days past that applied that term to Obama but in this case the poster is saying Obama is NOT an empty suit.


and the fireworks are going to be grand when Obama cuts loose. He will be a poised gentleman about it of course and McSame may not even realize he has been slammed half the time.

gonna be fun I tell ya :kick: :kick: :kick: :nuke: :nuke:

we need a fireworks smiley face...as in Fourth of July type fireworks

[Unbowed]

39. Obama has probably been itching to have at McCain.

And personally, I'll take the butter. Bring it on!

:popcorn: