This Obama supporter hopes Clinton supporters stick around after tomorrow

[democrattotheend]

I know everyone is celebrating the end of GDP, but personally, I feel like I am going to miss it. DailyKos got kind of boring after it became all Obama supporters. I like the diversity of opinion here, and I hope that the Clinton supporters who have not already left will decide to stay after tomorrow. Yes, we've fought sometimes, but with the exception of a few rotten apples, I think most of you are genuine Democrats dedicated to your candidate. I hope you will decide to support Obama but even if you still have reservations I hope you stick around.

The night before the PA primary, I got really discouraged. I knew he was going to lose, and I posted a mopey post saying that I had been out volunteering all weekend but was feeling demoralized. What surprised me was the fact that at least 3 or 4 Clinton supporters responded encouraging me to keep on going and not to get discouraged. I'm sympathetic to what you all must be going through, and I really hope you don't decide to leave DU after tomorrow. But if you need to step back and take a break, it's understandable. Maybe you'll like Obama better after getting away from his more outspoken DU supporters. But I'll miss most of you if you do go :(

[Hugabear]

1. We all need to stick around and work together

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That needs to be our primary focus now.

[saracat]

2. I think this is a very nice post and much appreciated. You are a nice person!

[democrattotheend]

4. Awww, thanks

I try :)

[Colobo]

49. Hopefully you'll stay, saracat.

[saracat]

59. Thank you Katz.

[panader0]

3. K&R We're all in this together.

[cbayer]

5. What are we without diversity?

The most disturbing thing in gd:p has been the demands by some to toe the line. I want to hear different voices, different views.

Very nice post on your part.

[democrattotheend]

10. Love your signature line

Props to you and all the other Clinton supporters who have already gotten behind Obama.

[Marrah_G]

6. I'm staying- we have an election to win- TOGETHER!

[NatBurner]

9. *daps*

i love your attitude, marrah

there's no pettiness in u

[Pathwalker]

7. I will never leave voluntarily. I've tried. I'm addicted.

It's my vacation from life home! :hi:

[JohnnyLib2]

8. I'm staying. Thanks.

[gcomeau]

11. The supporters... but not the "supporters".

If they were for Clinton because of Clinton, fine. If they were "for" Clinton because they had... 'problems'... with Obama, wave bye bye.

[PylesMalfunction]

12. Word!

If this was real life, I'd give you a terrorist fist jab. ;) Since it's virtual, I'll K&R instead. :D

[paulk]

13. well, the way Hillary supporters are getting

tombstoned around here lately, there may not be any left to "stick around".

[democrattotheend]

14. If it were up to me, that would not be happening

But I don't own this forum, so I don't have any control.

[Lerkfish]

15. so, are you disagreeing with the moderation of this site?

[highplainsdem]

17. Don't try to bait people into saying things that will create problems for them.

[Lerkfish]

18. LOL!

okeydoke. I'll try not to point out what people are already saying.

:shrug:

[democrattotheend]

19. Is it against the rules to say that?

If so I apologize. Yes, I do disagree with the decision to tombstone anyone who says they may not vote for Obama. If they consistently do opposition research against him or constantly post hit pieces that's another story.

[Lerkfish]

21. no need to apologize to me, as it turns out.

just asking a question.

[Zhade]

40. Completely agreed. People don't HAVE to support our nominee, they just can't oppose him vocally...

...or continue to spread lies about him via ignorance and rightwing lies.

[paulk]

28. yes

I think there is a clear bias here the last few months.

Now run to Skinner little lerkfish!

"paulk said there's a bias here, Mr. Skinner, and I'm tellin"!"

------

ps - you should talk, with some of the anti-DU stuff you've posted over at PI.

[Zhade]

39. The only ones getting TS'd are the ones breaking the rules.

At least, as far as I've seen. You're still here, right?

[highplainsdem]

16. K & R. And thank you!

[juajen]

20. I haven't gone anywhere, but, I am adept at giving people who

deserve it, the "Female Cold Shoulder". I don't forgive easily, and there are a lot of us who felt like battered wives or girlfriends, or the male equivalent. Many of you should be very ashamed of yourselves.

Please don't give that proverbial answer "Ya'll did it, too." We all know there were ten times as many O supporters than H supporters, and ya'll stuck it to us in a revolting way. It's a miracle there are any of us still here.

I've said my piece, and for my own protection, I will be leaving quickly, so there is no need to start trying to bloody me.

[MonkeyFunk]

22. Well, according to SOME

we're all going to be banned.

[democrattotheend]

24. I hope not

And I don't think that's true. If I recall correctly you have said that you will vote for Obama, so I don't think you have anything to worry about.

[MonkeyFunk]

27. I think maybe one person here has said

they'd vote for McCain. But yet there's thread after thread celebrating the impending purge. It's like the Reign of Terror. Mobs dragging the "impure" to the guillotine and cheering each death.

That disgusting mindset is one of the biggest reasons I don't like Obama supporters.

[Colobo]

50. I support Obama and I'm a fan of yours, Monkey.

You need to stick around.

[Zhade]

41. Only if you continue to attack our nominee.

NT!

[bain_sidhe]

23. I'm an Obama supporter, but

I still respect and admire Hillary Clinton. Whether I stick around depends on whether Hillary-bashing is still allowed.

I've got no problem supporting Obama. I have a problem supporting a site that allows a good Democrat to be trashed in his name.

[Cha]

32. Right...no reporting facts on hilary or you're gonna leave us.

got it.

[Zhade]

42. Telling the truth about her proven lies and reprehensible campaign tactics isn't bashing.

So sorry you don't understand that simple fact.

[Evergreen Emerald]

51. you see--those are lies and distortions about Clinton

I hope those lies and distortions are not allowed to continue. Her campaign was no more "reprehensible" than Obama's was. You and your cohorts keep saying this like it is fact. It is a distortion, exaggeration, twisting of her campaign by Obama and his supporters.

Lies and distortions. Obama's campaign was just as "reprehensible" as Clinton's--and actually I would say more so, because Obama used race to divide.

[Zhade]

54. The Tuzla video isn't a lie. The official records of clinton's PRO-NAFTA meetings aren't a lie.

Her claims to having a significant role in the Northern Ireland peace process being refuted by people ACTUALLY INVOLVED isn't a lie.

The fact that the mother died IN the hospital WITH insurance - despite clinton's assertions to the contrary - isn't a lie.

You can't dismiss the evidence that proves she lied, no matter how desperately you wish to do so.

(Oh, and her race-baiting, along with bill's proven I-didn't-say-that-except-there's-evidence-on-tape-I-did lie.)

When it comes to honesty, you lose. Just like clinton did.

[emilyg]

56. So sorry you have no class. Never will.

[JohnnyLib2]

46. Appreciated.

:thumbsup:

[Mezzo]

48. I cannot tell you how that meant to me.

Because it practically defines how I went from the fence to Hillary. (I started out for Edwards, and would still take him over wither one of them).

But this, 'we wanna dish it, but we sure can't take it' sort of shows the mindset that I believe a lot of people find unsettling.

[emilyg]

57. Thank you very much.

Your message is lovely.

[NorthAmerican]

25. I agree! We must win this together.

[slinkerwink]

30. welcome to DU!

[democrattotheend]

45. Welcome to DU!

[DemExpat]

26. The nicest post I've read here for weeks towards Hillary supporters!

Thanks so much for being seemingly GENUINELY nice and reaching out. Not sucking up to the losers ONLY after your man was victorious - as most "unity" threads seem to be here. IMHO

So many Hillary supporters have been chased off or banned here, it has felt more like an Obama supporters site for months than DU, so I don't know how long I'll be here.


Certainly it doesn't feel like the DU I had grown to love so much, as the overwhelming nastiness - agreed that it was the numbers, not necessarily the candidate supporter group itself - that made DU unbearably brutal to many Hillary supporters. It is difficult to feel good about a forum that I thought was a good progressive and inclusive site and that allowed this bullying to take place.

But thanks very much for your kind post.

:hug:

DemEx

[slinkerwink]

31. DemEx, were you around during the primary wars in 2004?

[DemExpat]

34. Yes

I even moderated through that war.

But IMO this has been much nastier and downright freeperish in the bullying, ridicule, non-tolerance of a minority viewpoint(far less Clinton supporters) and sexism this time around with a woman candidate.

DemEx

[slinkerwink]

35. you have to remember that the netroots did NOT like Hillary Clinton after her 2002 Iraq vote

and that was what engendered the animosity on part of the netroots. She would have been the nominee if she had apologized for that Iraq war vote.

I would've voted for her if she had.

[slinkerwink]

29. I'm proud to have Clinton supporters with us that listen to Senator Clinton

Senator Clinton wants us all to support the Democratic nominee.

[highplainsdem]

52. And Obama praises Clinton and has asked his supporters to be nice to hers.

Good example to follow, don't you think?

[WillyWonton]

33. I am a Hillary supporter....

and I rarely post on these boards, the hatred against Hillary has been out of control. Even now, she has conceded and released her delegates, and the bashing continues. I can easily understand why Clinton supporters would not want to be a part of the message boards. Many Clinton supporters, including myself will vote for Obama, that was always the plan to vote for whoever the nominee was to be. Some of the Obama supporters on DU though make it pretty difficult though to think about voting for him when they just can't stop themselves from the Hillary bashing. Let it go already.

[slinkerwink]

36. I understand that. I'm an Obama supporter.

I'm tired of continuing the primary anger--which is useless at this point. My attention is on the general election. I don't think it's productive for any supporter of either Obama or Clinton to be rehashing the primary wars.

[WillyWonton]

37. and I too support Obama

Regardless of who we supported in the primary, we all knew someone would win, and someone would lose. We could battle for years over who we think is better, but it is pointless. We have a nominee, and now let's move on to the White House! McCain is not the one to lead this country! Thank you for your kind post!

[Zhade]

43. There is some confusion as to if she's actually released those delegates.

By the way, pointing out the truth about her lies isn't hatred.

[WillyWonton]

44. Pointing out the truth is fine...

but clearly you have seen some of the over-the-top hatred on these boards??? It is unnecessary.

[Zhade]

55. I have seen it, and not approved of it, because it diminishes the true criticisms.

And it's just dumb.

[Zhade]

38. I'm all for them sticking around, as long as they stop lying about our nominee.

They don't even have to support him. They just can't keep smearing him with their lies.

(Granted, it's only a handful of delusional idiots still doing that. Most have come around and are very welcome!)

[DeepModem Mom]

47. K&R

[grantcart]

53. there is a world of difference between a Clinton supporter and Obama hater

Supporters of all the candidates are welcome as we work together for the GE. Very very few started with Obama.

[Forkboy]

58. There's a few I won't miss at all.

But the majority of them are good people that I just saw things differently than. I have a lot of respect for them anyways, and I hope many of them will be still be around. There's a LOT more to DU than just this one forum, and they have a hell of a lot to offer us in regards to numerous other issues affecting Democrats, and I'd value their input.

[democrattotheend]

60. Call me crazy, but I'll even miss the crazy ones

They made this forum interesting