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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 06:40 PM
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Boren Call Obama "most Liberal Senator" Won't endorse
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http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/washington/AP-Obama-Boren.html


By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: June 10, 2008
Filed at 7:19 p.m. ET

OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) -- Democratic Rep. Dan Boren of Oklahoma said Tuesday Barack Obama is ''the most liberal senator'' in Congress and he has no intention of endorsing him for the White House.

However, Boren will vote for Obama at the Democratic National Convention in Denver in August and will vote Democratic on Nov. 4.

''I think this is an important time for our country,'' Boren said in a telephone interview. ''We're facing a terrible economic downturn. We have high gasoline prices. We have problems in our foreign policy. That's why I think it's important.''

Boren, the lone Democrat in Oklahoma's congressional delegation, said that while Obama has talked about working with Republicans, ''unfortunately, his record does not reflect working in a bipartisan fashion.''

Boren, a self-described centrist, is seeking a third term this year in a mostly rural district that stretches across eastern Oklahoma.

''We're much more conservative,'' Boren said of district. ''I've got to reflect my district. No one means more to me than the people who elected me. I have to listen them.'' He called Obama ''the most liberal senator in the U.S. Senate.''

Hillary Rodham Clinton carried Boren's district with 66 percent of the vote in the state's presidential primary in February.

Boren said his endorsement became a moot point when Clinton suspended her campaign, making Obama the presumed nominee. But he said it will be a historic moment for the nation when the party nominates Obama, who would be the first black president if elected.

''I celebrate it,'' Boren said. ''It's a testament to the Democratic Party.''

In April, Boren's father, former governor, one-time senator and current University of Oklahoma President David Boren, announced his support for Obama.

Jen Psaki, a spokeswoman for Obama, said the congressman had ''his facts wrong.'' She said Obama, as a member of the Illinois Senate, worked with Republicans to provide health care for people who didn't have it and, in Washington, has worked with Boren's Republican colleague, Sen. Tom Coburn of Oklahoma, to make government more accountable and open.

''Senator Obama appreciates the support of Dan Boren's father,'' Psaki said.

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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 06:43 PM
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1. Obama is the most liberal Senator in the same manner in which
I am the left testicle of a pig.

Whatever, Dan. At least dad still has a little gut to him.
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Ashy Larry Donating Member (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 06:47 PM
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2. Its official
Dan Boren is a coward.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 07:58 PM
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10. ????
he said he would vote for him.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 06:51 PM
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3. Is Boren Becoming Too Red For His District???

If so called centrist politics is only polling 66% in rural Oklahoma, when do we get to bury it?

I mean, if his own father in rural Oklahoma is supporting Obama, then someone needs to wrap the third way in yesterday's newspaper.

No one wants to march under Lieberman's banner anymore.

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sazemisery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 09:06 PM
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13. I live in his district and he sucks.
But no one will run against him cause of his name recognition.
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Scoovydoo Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 06:52 PM
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4. Ted Kennedy is more liberal than Obama
it's an exaggeration to say that Obama is the most liberal.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 07:08 PM
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7. Here's a sight that's more reliable than boron (rhymes with moron)
http://www.electoral-vote.com/

This one is very interesting (from electoral-vote)

http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Senate/con_senator_ratings-2007.html

You'll notice, according to the combined scores of 8 conservative groups that Obama ranks 31st most liberal and...Not one of these groups ranks him most liberal.

Though I am ignoring the FRC and RTL since they gave about 20 Senators a zero score.
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Carrieyazel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 09:24 PM
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15. How is Sen. Kennedy more liberal than Sen. Obama?
I've heard some say that, but where's the evidence?
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 06:55 PM
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5. So...He's the most liberal
It's not oh say....
Russ Feingold or...
Bernie Sanders... You know. The self-described Socialist. or...
Barbara Boxer...or

How about John Kerry? Four years ago he was the most liberal.

Someone needs to remind Boren to stop using republikkan memes.

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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 06:56 PM
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6. Primary challenge to this dipstick, anyone?
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 07:10 PM
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8. Then get out of the way, butthead.
There's a train coming, and any Dem would be wise to get on board.

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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 07:14 PM
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9. Obama just appears liberal to some but to AIPAC he's pure neo-con. He said "I have proposed a
responsible, phased redeployment of our troops from Iraq. We will get out as carefully as we were careless getting in."

That's a rapid retreat from his earlier promise to withdraw our troops immediately.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 01:37 AM
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21. hogwash
Obama never said he'd pull out troops recklessly overnight in a way that put more lives needlessly in danger.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 06:05 AM
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24. Prove your assertion. n/t
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 10:26 AM
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25. Early this year Obama's plan called for pulling out of Iraq by March '08.
Edited on Wed Jun-11-08 10:28 AM by Radical Activist
That's quick, but not an immediate withdrawal. It doesn't contradict what he said at AIPAC. Since the withdrawal did not begin on Obama's proposed timetable, the final date will have to be pushed back as well. He's consistent.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 09:01 PM
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11. For a Senator, he sure ain't smart
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 09:04 PM
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12. This guy is an idiot, Obama isn't a liberal...
I think he just said that to cover up his district's racist leanings.
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Carrieyazel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 09:27 PM
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16. What is Obama then? He's not a proud, liberal Democrat?
Looking at his record, he takes liberal positions on every single important political issue.
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 09:42 PM
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19. What liberal positions are those?
Really, I would love a list. He's not supporting single-payer health care, nor same sex marriage, nor is he an economic leftist. He's mildly pro-fair trade, but even there he's not any more to the left than most moderate Democrats. There's really nothing about him that screams liberal.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 09:07 PM
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14. Who cares, what this irrelevant congressman says? His dad is relevant and has endoresed Obama
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 05:10 AM
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23. His dad might not bea terrible choiuce for the VP shortlist
In the same ways that Nunn and Bob Gragam makes sense.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 09:29 PM
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17. Dan Boren ...enjoy your short stay in office.
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 09:31 PM
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18. This news kept showing up on news.google for me.
Why this is a big deal is beyond me. News flash: Not all legislators support Obama! Just like not all Clinton supporters support Obama!

Duh!
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Undercurrent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 12:54 AM
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20. Daddy issues?
Not only is Dan Boren's Daddy an Obama supporter, Daddy Boren serves as an advisor on Barack's National Security Foreign Policy team.



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Chiyo-chichi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 10:45 AM
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26. and the elder Boren needs to talk some sense into little Dan.
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tman Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 03:07 AM
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22. Obama needs a response to this liberal thing
This is one myth that could hurt him. They did this with kerry.

http://www.mostliberalsenator.blogspot.com/
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 10:59 AM
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27. Dan Boren`s Father Seems To Get it...
Former Senator David L. Boren said, "I am joining Senator Barack Obama’s advisory team on foreign policy and national security because I believe it is my duty as a citizen to do all I can to help our country at this critical moment. Our strength is declining. Eighty-one percent of Americans believe we are headed in the wrong direction. We must act quickly to meet and overcome the challenges we face.

"Our most urgent task is to end the divisions in our country, to stop the political bickering, and to unite our talents and efforts. Americans of all persuasions are pleading with our political leaders to bring us together. I believe Senator Obama is sincerely committed to that effort. He has made a non-partisan approach to all issues a top priority.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5566116&mesg_id=5566116">Link
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