Who should Obama pick for VP if electability is the primary concern?

[senseandsensibility]

I realize that there are othrer concerns. But for the purpose of this discussion, make your case for VP based on electability only.


Who can give Obama the most help in WINNING? Why?

[blm]

1. Bush already assured that Obama is electable. Y'know folks, you really need to read McCain's book

from 2000. He is not going to be able to endure being Bush3 the next 5 months.

[MadBadger]

2. One of the Virginia Three

[mac2]

5. Jim Johnson former CEO of Fanny May and corporate Neo Con.

Guess the decisions aren't made by the people but by the "elite few people" from the Bilderberg Group in VA.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20080609&articleId=9270

Fanny May is a large candy company here in Chicago.

We the people now have a government run by corporations and their CEOs. We have a Fascist state.

Hope the delegates at the convention get a buzz about that. Out with the Neo Cons and Super Delegates once and for all. If Dean is aware of this what is he doing about it? It is treasonous and illegal for this group to pick a candidate for VP. Or did he manipulate it so they could do it and decide everything without the delegates? Seems so to me.

I have read on this web site that Obama is a Fascist. I'm wondering if this is not true. Hillary called him elite. It is true if you consider him belonging to those secret groups. She does too.

Is any party patriot going to challenge them?

[MadBadger]

11. Only 15:30 left.

[cliffordu]

20. Yep. Time's gettin' short.

[hokies4ever]

17. Get your shots in now mac2, we'll be watching you soon

:hide:

:rofl:

[mac2]

21. Is that a threat hokies4ever?

Are you to be the new spy administration? Democracy by threat and lies? Do go along and allow them to leave with their bag of pillage. It is "change of face law".

[Botany]

3. Stephanie Miller

[question everything]

4. Someone with a miitary and/or foreign relations background

This is his main weakness.

Otherwise, watch how, a few weeks before the elections, there is some instability in the world. Does not have to be a terrorist attack, just instability in, say, North Korea, or Liberian, Venezuela or Kosovo and see how McCain shows his leadership skills, while Obama stammers, "calling on all sides to exercise restraint."

Instead, he can have his V.P. - Wes Clark, for example - talks to the media.

[senseandsensibility]

6. I don't disagree with your basic premise

and I think Clark or Biden would be great. But I don't understand why you assume Obama would "stammer" or that McSame would be Presidential. To me, it's far more likely that McSame would stammer, or "misspeak", as he has been doing almost constantly since the campaign began. Most often, he does this about foreign policy issues.

[mac2]

22. I hope they allow the delegates at the convention a choice of VP.

Otherwise it is not "change" but the same ole.

[newmajority]

7. NO FUCKING SENATORS!!

That's the most important thing. Two senators on the ticket and WE WILL LOSE. I don't care if it's Russ Feingold or Diane Feinstein, or even Senator Jesus Christ (D - Heaven)

McLoon understands this reality, or at least his campaign does. That's why they're talking to governors. Obama's team had better be doing the same. Richardson or Schweitzer could potentially flip the entire Mountain time zone to "Blue". OK, Idaho and Utah won't be easy, but it's possible.

[mac2]

8. They will pick a Neo Con you can be sure of that.

[newmajority]

9. I'm sure you would be happy if they chose Lou Dobbs

But I don't see him as a vice president for any non-caucasian

[senseandsensibility]

12. ?

Am I missing something?

[newmajority]

13. Apparently you did

That poster was defending one of Lou Dobbs racist diatribes a week or two ago and posting a bunch of other crap that would be considered.... less than Democratic (to put it diplomatically)

[mac2]

23. Barack is not a new face.

We here in Illinois have him as our Senator.

[DaLittle Kitty]

18. ANYONE Other Than John Edwards and Obama Has Caved in To The CORPORATIST/DLC/STATUS QUO'ers!

:think: :puke:

[greguganus]

26. Johnny already said he didn't want it. There's always Nader. n/t

[stray cat]

10. Which governors want to give up their job for a VP that may not happen?

[newmajority]

15. They wouldn't have to give up their job until after the November election.

Chimpy was still governor of Texas when he was running. Bill Clinton was still governor of Arkansas.

For that matter, Obama is still a sitting senator. Joe Lieberman was running for BOTH the Senate and VP in 2000. There's no requirement that an incumbent office holder quits his or her current job if running for another office.

[mac2]

24. Even after they leave office many return.

Or they become part of the "shadow government" in the Bilderberg Group, etc. They won't give up power.

[Buzz Clik]

14. John McCain. Think about it.

Talk about co-opting somebody's campaign!

[hokies4ever]

16. Probably Sebelius or Strickland if they can deliver Ohio

(Sebelius if her father being a former Ohio governor shows favorably in the Obama camp's internal polling)

However, I don't think that electability will be the primary concern.

[MercutioATC]

19. He should ignore the silly "experience" thing and stick with "change". Brian Schweitzer.

Stop listening to pundits.

Ask any voter what they want in November and I'll bet "change" (especially economic), and "a President/VP who I feel is working for ME" are always in the top five answers. Selecting an "experienced" VP...considering the "experienced" VP choices we have this year...works against both of these priorities.

We need a ticket that's perceived as both "change" and "working for the average person". We also, realistically, have to avoid scaring people with too much change (a black or female VP would be too much, IMO).

So, we're looking for a white/Asian/Latino male who isn't part of the establishment and relates well with the average voter.

That's Brian Schweitzer.

[mac2]

25. We should stick with "We the people" rule and decide.

The first this or that does not impress me. Their politics do.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

27. Sen Hillary Rodham Clinton!

bar none

[greguganus]

28. Then say "HELLLLLOOOOO MCCAIN!!!" n/t