Jerry Springer is on Dan Abrams talking out his ass. WTF?

[Blue_Roses]

He's saying if Hillary isn't picked as VP then it makes Obama look weak and that he can't handle her. What is his problem?

And once again, our favorite:eyes: Pat Buchanan shouting and spewing his vile BS. Why does anyone care what Pat thinks? I just don't get it. :banghead:

Dan couldn't do better than Pat?

[Oceansaway]

1. turn it off...i did...n/t....

[jeffrey_X]

21. I just shut it off, grabbed a beer and headed for the deck.....

OOOOT

[NorthAmerican]

Just the usual BS from Pat; don't know why Springer is on there. n/t

[Cha]

31. Welcome to DU

you're just in time.

[Radio_Lady]

48. Jerry Springer has a long Democratic profile... he was Mayor of...

Cincinnati, Ohio.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Springer

Gerald Norman "Jerry" Springer (born February 13, 1944) is a former politician-turned daytime talk show host. British-born American television personality, a former Democratic mayor of Cincinnati, Ohio, musician and host of the tabloid talk show bearing his name, The Jerry Springer Show, since its debut in 1991. He is also the current host of America's Got Talent. He was also the then unknown host of Game Show Networks's quiz show, 'Inquizition'.

[NorthAmerican]

2. Just the usual BS from Pat; don't know why Springer is on there. n/t

[Symarip]

3. I put on Futurama when he started jabbering

He makes Lanny Davis seem like Surrogate of the Year.

[G_j]

4. watch C-SPAN: Kucinich Resolution nt

[LakeSamish706]

7. LOL... No, watched last night and after what? 5 hours it became like...

watching paint dry!

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

5. Jerry always talks out his ass.

That's why his AAR radio show sucked out loud and why he emcees a tv show where people throw folding chairs at each other. He's a twit.

[Blue_Roses]

8. exactly, why would anyone take what he says seriously?

I know he has had a political history but he's really lost his creditability

[cliffordu]

37. Well, he has to know something, he was on tv once, wasn't he??

:rofl:

[Radio_Lady]

49. He was the Mayor of Cincinnati, Ohio ... see my post #48 above.

Links to the Wikipedia article on him.

I don't usually listen to Dan Abrams, but tonight I decided to leave MSNBC on.

Jerry Springer is just one of many, many Democrats who see it that way -- Hillary Clinton garnered somewhere between 17 and 18 million votes. Despite all the drawbacks, in the final analysis she may be the best candidate for Vice President.

Or not.

The show did cover the fact that most Vice Presidents get chosen at the party convention. But this primary season has been so different than any other -- it's as if they threw away the rule book, and I mean that in a GOOD way!

Cordially,

Radio Lady Ellen Kimball

[LakeSamish706]

6. Yep, I changed the channel as well... Jerry Springer is full of shit as always. n/t

[WeDidIt]

9. Abrams is always a 180 degree outta synch repeat of Countdown

I despise Abrams.

[Blue_Roses]

11. I think he tries to stir the pot.

the Mitt Romney guy actually is making some sense:crazy: that's pretty bad.

[IDemo]

10. Tanya Acker told him "that's not how the process works"

Unfortunately, he and Dan Abrams refuse to accept that and this issue will be pounded on nightly until Barack's running mate is chosen. It's become a single issue show.

[Blue_Roses]

12. Oh, so Dan is pushing this...

hmmm...I see now. So he just goes and pulls people that agree with this nonsense. Tanya Acker is the only one making sense.

[Heather MC]

55. Next they will be suggesting the America should have the right to pick

Obama's cabinet.

They always try to change the rules for Blacks!

Jerry Springer is on the Verdict saying Barack Obama should not be the only one deciding who his VP should be
and that the American people have spoken and if they feel Hillary is good enough for Pres she should be the VP

And would be a great choice if God Forbid Obama can't serve out his term
WTF!!!!!!

If Hillary is not selected it will be the preception that Barack Obama can't handle her
that will make him weak

[WillyWonton]

18. That's now how the process works,

but just maybe shouldn't the voters have a say in who the VP is? I mean, we fought for months over who the nominee for prez would be, why should we not have a say in who the VP is?

[IDemo]

32. Of course her success is a factor. But not the only one

It will be factored into the equation along with: who brings the foreign policy background that Obama may lack, who will win states he may not, and which senate seat (if the vp is a senator) would most likely be replaced with another Democrat?

[Cha]

33. Because we chose the nom and he,

after a long hard fought process, now gets to do the choosing.

[countmyvote4real]

13. I saw that and thankfully remembered that I could watch Hell's Kitchen.

Save yourself. Get out while you can.

[Blue_Roses]

16. lol

I just turned it off. It's more than I can take tonight. I think I'm going out for ice cream with my kids:D

[AllentownJake]

14. Why can't we give Maddow this timeslot?

She has more of a following than this dipshit.

[countmyvote4real]

17. Because we don't work there?

I still thinks it's good idea.

[AllentownJake]

22. Should have written that better

Why can't they. She does great when she covers for Ketih.

Seriously Maddow is their most popular commentator and if they are seriously considering being the left's answer to Fox News than she needs her own show. Also the 9pm hour would allow her to keep her radio show if she wanted to.

[Cha]

34. I saw Rachel Maddow for the

first time today on a clip in Political Videos and am very impressed like I knew I would be with all the DUer's claiming how great she is.

It's the one where she and KO are talking about e.d. hill mucking it up with the "terrorist's jab".

[countmyvote4real]

46. Stream the show if you can. The 2nd and 3rd hours are the best.

The first hour is just an audio delayed version of MSNBC's David Gregory panel (with Rachel).

[DangerousRhythm]

56. Good to know!

I download the podcast from iTunes and I sometimes try to listen to the show as I sleep and I always wind up hearing David Gregory and nothing else.

I was starting to wonder! :rofl:

[Blue_Roses]

19. anyone would be better than Dan...well,

just about anyone. Please no Pat. Sometimes I can take his show and then sometimes, like tonight, he's just waaaaaaaaaaaaay out there.:crazy:

[AllentownJake]

23. Actually

Pat is at least sometimes entertaining and every so often he goes crazy so the train wreck aspect makes it more appealing than Dan.

[Blue_Roses]

26. I know and when Pat gets mad his face gets so red...

especially if he's losing an argument.

[TahitiNut]

15. Lemme see. Jerry Springer or Jimmy Carter? Whose advice is better??

Golly.... tough one, huh? NOT!

:eyes:

[Cha]

36. I choose

Jimmy!

[NotThisTime]

20. Jerry Springer? Is Dan Abrams kidding us? Seriously... just turn it off...

Abram's is clearly out of his element with this new show, it's really an embarrassment for him

[Radio_Lady]

51. I usually watch Larry King, but tonight, he was interviewing Hulk Hogan...

Wanna make something out of it?

:rofl:

Cordially,

Radio Lady in Oregon

[jefferson_dem]

24. Why anyone took this clown seriously (enough to have his own AA show at least) is beyond me.

n/t

[jcinccal]

25. he's right

[Blue_Roses]

28. let me guess...

:eyes:

[Poll_Blind]

27. Jerry Springer, a Hooker and a cheque

Say it ain't so, Jerry!

PB

[AspenRose]

50. Not too bright...

:wow:

[davidinalameda]

29. someone has Jerry Springer on a "serious" news program

:rofl:

[Cha]

30. Thanks..now I know jerrry springer

talks outta his ass. Like he shit about Obama.

[coyotespaw]

52. His old show on AAR was the least listenable radio

I've ever heard in my life. More annoying than Alan Colmes.

[highplainsdem]

35. A lot of people will agree with Springer, and a lot will have the opposite opinion.

This is NOT a situation where Obama will automatically appear stronger if he doesn't put Clinton on the ticket. I'd guess that the more voters like Clinton, the more likely they'll be to think that Obama will look weak if he doesn't put her on the ticket. I wouldn't expect Obama supporters who hate Hillary to understand this, but I wish you'd try to understand if only because so many Democratic voters did prefer her and the Democratic Party in its entirety is not a Hillary-hating echo chamber.

Quite a few messages here about why Obama supporters don't want Clinton on the ticket have, in essence, boiled down to saying that she's too strong, too ambitious. Those Obama supporters thought it would be wise of him not to have her there as VP for those reasons. But what those Obama supporters would view as wisdom, many others would see as weakness.

What will be interesting is seeing how the MSM will react if he chooses someone other than Clinton. At the moment, many in the MSM are suggesting he'll look weak if he chooses her. But they can be fickle, and except for reliable Obama cheerleaders like Olbermann, I wouldn't be surprised to see some of them wonder aloud later if Obama choosing someone else did show he was "weak."

[Tarheel_Dem]

40. It's not so much Hillary I worry about. It would be her co-vice president that concerns me.

Obama doesn't need to be undermined at every turn by the bigger than life ego of Bill Clinton.

[highplainsdem]

41. Okay. But I generally assume that all presidential candidates, and not just former presidents,

have "bigger than life egos."

And again, this is a situation where some people will feel Obama would be wise not to want a VP whose husband is a former president, and others will feel Obama will look weak if he doesn't choose Hillary Clinton for this reason.

I don't envy Obama having to make this decision. And I wouldn't fault him if he would prefer someone else to Hillary Clinton. It can't be easy to arrange a political alliance with your strongest rival within the party.

But I honestly believe he's more likely to be elected if she's on the ticket. And I don't believe Springer will be the only person in the MSM suggesting Obama looks weak if he doesn't choose Clinton.

That's all I'm trying to get across here, that people shouldn't think Springer's opinion is that unusual. Just please don't assume that not choosing Clinton automatically makes Obama seem stronger.

[Tarheel_Dem]

42. Well, it may not be an issue. If the rumors are true, Bill may have some

trouble with financial disclosure. Lots of money, from lots of people, places and things. I hope Obama is not pressured into offering HRC the vice presidency as some sort of consolation prize. If he does make that decision, he will have to really convince a lot of us that he couldn't do any better.

[Skwmom]

44. It would be an administration in exile waiting to take control.

Talk about a dysfunctional govt. A guest on Morning Joe pointed this out the other day.

[Tarheel_Dem]

45. I agree with that guest. I don't want Bill to be seen as Obama's Dick Cheney.

No more puppet masters. Keith showed a retrospective of the primary season tonight, and I was reminded that even though Hillary gave a great concession speech on Sat., she has said some really damaging things about Obama that she would have to defend constantly. And trying to climb down from some of those claims will make her come off as disingenuous, IMHO.

[Radio_Lady]

58. Sorry, but my discussion with people I know feel that if Obama can't control his VP...

whoever that person is -- then he is not the right person for President.

If he chooses Clinton (and, I'm not saying if he will or won't), he would garner the support of many of the people who feel she lost by the slimmest of margins and deserves to be on the ticket.

It would also show that he isn't afraid to deal with the Clintons respectfully -- after all, they claim to be able to work together and fate has put them in this position. Please don't tell me that it couldn't have been reversed! She made some bad decisions and political fortunes change with a SNAP of the fingers.

Obama would garner their help with learning the ropes. The seventeen or eighteeen million people who voted for Hillary would at least be able to consider him.

Now, will this kind of a post get me flamed tonight, but not tomorrow?

If so, consider it done.

Radio Lady in Oregon

PS. I resurrected one of my father's old campaign flyers from the 1950s. Guess what slogan he ran under!

"IT'S TIME FOR A CHANGE!"

He was a Jewish white man who ran for the City Council, was elected and then took over as Vice Mayor. Eventually, he became a Municipal Judge.

The people he ran against were largely Italian Catholics and maybe a couple of WASPS! One of the election rallies took place on Yom Kippur (the Jewish Day of Atonement -- the highest holiday among practicing Jews). He did not attend that rally and later wrote a play about the ethical decision. The play was called "The Candidate" and was performed at the University of Miami with Dad in the audience.

[global1]

38. Springer Also Said On The Same Program That It's Not Worth Impeaching Bush......

because he'll be leaving office soon anyway. How stupid!!!!

The reason to impeach Bush is to protect our Constitution and make sure that no one administration ever pull what Bush pulled again. No one is above the law. It is not to impeach him just to get him out of office.

[highplainsdem]

39. Hasn't Obama said the same thing?

He's opposed to impeachment now.

[Skwmom]

43. He can handle her. He's telling her NO.

[Colobo]

47. Jerry Springer? Por favor...

[Zhade]

53. Can't... handle... her? He spanked her!

How odd.

[themaguffin]

54. springer was being ass. he didn't answer the question & his comments were flat wrong

[rebel with a cause]

57. And you expected more from Jerry

His show depends on people like ms christian to watch it. He has to stay true to his viewers. :rofl: