Bodhi BloodWave
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Wed Jun-11-08 12:38 PM
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Sen Obama will be the next president, Gov Schweitzer hopefully the next VP(or Clark) |
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Edited on Wed Jun-11-08 12:38 PM by Bodhi BloodWave
Least thats this Norwegians ticket :D
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ayeshahaqqiqa
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Wed Jun-11-08 12:40 PM
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1. I know more about Clark than Schweitzer |
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having just learned about that governor from posts here the other day. Schweitzer will bring in gun owners, but so will Clark, I think; both bring in rural votes, but would Clark, being a Southerner, bring in more, do you think? And Clark has the military/foreign policy credibility and the ability to lambaste McCain, as he did earlier today, I think. Is Schweitzer as eloquent?
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Bodhi BloodWave
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Wed Jun-11-08 12:50 PM
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3. I'm not totally sure, i do think he'd pull in a fair number of southerners tho |
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Additionally i think he'd actually help bring in a lot more disgruntled republicans and some indeps then if it was Obama and somebody else(don't ask me for proof tho as its more a gut feeling kinda thing based mainly on what I've read here, what I've read on wiki, and what I've come across accidentally)
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Wed Jun-11-08 12:48 PM
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2. NO CLARK. Anyone who praises Karl Rove is unacceptable, but.... |
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I was impressed with Webb on the Daily Show. He's not as stuffy as he appears at first, and he is rock-solid.
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Bodhi BloodWave
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Wed Jun-11-08 12:53 PM
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4. Well, schweitzer is who i actually hope on mainly, but Clark is my second choice |
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Since i think he would actually be quite good for the ticket and the US(can agree with the Rove thing in parts, tho it wouldn't disqualify him in my eyes due to having a lot more positive)
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Wed Jun-11-08 01:04 PM
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5. you have a NASTY habit of posting patently false info/disinformation about Clark, please STOP |
Bodhi BloodWave
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Wed Jun-11-08 01:13 PM
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6. since i'm somewhat unsure exactly what Clark said, could you refresh my memory |
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I only seem to recall him saying something regarding Rove(which is why i was somewhat vague on the 'in parts agreement' of mine while looking for information
hmmm, and i need to change my sig, no need for an passive effort to cause Edwards supporters to support Obama in the primary any longer :P
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PoliticalAmazon
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Wed Jun-11-08 02:07 PM
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10. Clark at his best.... |
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Wed Jun-11-08 02:06 PM
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9. You have a NASTY habit of posting gullible explanations for Clark's.... |
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piss-poor history, including his fawning support of the Bushes.
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Wed Jun-11-08 01:16 PM
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7. Not this shit still - aren't these lies forbidden here now? |
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Can you please point me to where Clark praised Rove? For real? And please don't point me to where Clark said he was good at lying and cheating. That's not exactly a compliment really now, is it?
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Wed Jun-11-08 02:05 PM
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8. When he endorsed Rove's Hillary-math for winning the prmary, May 28th.... |
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And I suggest you refrain from calling me a liar. You really don't want to get into a name-calling contest with me, I guarantee it.
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Wed Jun-11-08 02:09 PM
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12. No fighting please. Clark will not be VP |
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Schweitzer is too new... I think Mark Warner is the best for the ticket and Senator Nelson from FL will energize our party in FL and if we win FL then it is all over for McWar.
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Wed Jun-11-08 02:12 PM
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So - post your proof if you have it.
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PoliticalAmazon
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Wed Jun-11-08 02:33 PM
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16. Dan Abrahm's show, May 28th.... |
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The following is the quote from the transcript for "The Verdict" of May 28, 2008:
'Verdict with Dan Abrams' for Wednesday, May 28
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24874492/
"General Clark, Karl Rove as the source of independent analysis?
RET. GENERAL WESLEY CLARK, CLINTON SUPPORTER: Well, you know, Dan, he proved he knows what he‘s talking about. When it comes to getting people elected, he did it twice. ABRAMS: Except in 2006, right?
CLARK: Well, he did it for George W. Bush twice and, you know, he‘s a pretty shrewd analyst. A lot of us don‘t like what he did in the White House, and maybe some of it was even illegal. But you‘ve got to give the devil his due."
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Wed Jun-11-08 03:12 PM
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Yeah - he's praising Rove there: "A lot of us don‘t like what he did in the White House, and maybe some of it was even illegal. But you‘ve got to give the devil his due."
He's calling Rove crooked but good at it. That's high praise indeed.
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Wed Jun-11-08 02:08 PM
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11. Say, did you see in the list MSNBC had today of VP candidates.... |
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Clark's name isn't on it?
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Wed Jun-11-08 02:10 PM
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13. MSNBC's list is realistic. |
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They seem to think that Mark Warner is the one to watch.
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Wed Jun-11-08 02:16 PM
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15. I got a favorable impression from Webb when he was on the Daily Show.... |
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He's rock solid, appears very dependable, a war veteran, and he's not as stuffy as I thought he was.
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Wed Jun-11-08 05:54 PM
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19. Clark was on NPR's list of VP candidates. |
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Wed Jun-11-08 03:37 PM
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18. Schweitzer would reinforce Obama's concern for the West.. |
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..and I think he would be the perfect contrast to Obama, and yet reinforce the campaign themes in a most powerful way. After all he has a skunk hide nailed to the wall to express his feelings toward lobbyists.... He neutralizes the gun issue, has spent considerable time in the Middle East, speaks Arab... He takes complex issues and makes them simple.
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Wed Jun-11-08 07:26 PM
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21. I like his approach to rural/sportsman issues. |
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Honestly, I think this is a great way to make inroads into these independents in the mountain west and mid west states. Talk about gun ownership in the context of sporting and collecting. There's been a movement in the hunting/fishing community to take a more realistic view of the political parties (read: moving away from NRA ultra-conservative thought). Schweitzer and these types of guys do a great job of wrapping environmentalism, protection of public lands, and global warming issues in an outdoorsman's cloth. A lot of these "hard working white" guys also, tromp through the woods, hike, and drive off road vehicles through open lands. If Scheitzer can be the face of that, I think it's a winning move.
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Wed Jun-11-08 06:35 PM
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20. You also have to consider the advantage of a little known VP |
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You have the whole 1-2 week biography tour\press coverage. Choosing a VP candidate that the press already knows very well does not give you this boost.
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Wed Jun-11-08 07:30 PM
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22. More people will want to get acquainted with Schweitzer.. |
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He is a lot more colorful than some of the short list candidates--and potentially more helpful
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