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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 02:11 PM Original message |
My case for Tim Kaine as Vice President. |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
1. I didn't know this |
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papapi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
2. I can dig it. I like Kaine, he's my Governor at the moment. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 02:20 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. That brings up his one major drawback. |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. He could appoint himself Senator. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 02:50 PM Response to Reply #14 |
27. Then the Republican lieutenent Governor still takes over. |
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papapi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 08:43 PM Response to Reply #27 |
59. It is the sticky wicket. - Lt. Gov. Bob Bolling has indicated he will not...... |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 02:40 PM Response to Reply #7 |
21. I think this issue needs to be seriously considered |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 02:49 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Or Biden, Warner, Kerry, etc. |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 03:05 PM Response to Reply #25 |
36. I agree |
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iamjoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 09:55 PM Response to Reply #25 |
76. Warner Already Said No |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-18-08 05:33 AM Response to Reply #25 |
84. No sacrifice needed with Bob Graham |
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slick8790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
3. I didn't know everything you posted, but I did know enough about Kaine to agree with you. |
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TheDonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
4. I like Kaine. One of my top 3 |
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FSogol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
5. I'd say Kaine has the best odds at the moment. |
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SuperTrouper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 02:21 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Wow, excellent and informative post |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
6. I think Kaine would be a fine choice for the second term |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 02:25 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. The choice is, attack McCain's strengths or his weaknesses? |
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iamjoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 09:59 PM Response to Reply #6 |
77. Or Kaine Appoints Warner |
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Shae (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 10:18 PM Response to Reply #6 |
79. That's a little convoluted . . . |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
9. The Resume is Good, but the Personal Presence is Not |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 02:37 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. He has improved considerably. I found him to be one of Obama's best surrogates... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
11. Hah... when I read "Tim Kaine", for some reason, I thought of |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
12. pretty damn good case - missionary? |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 03:00 PM Response to Reply #12 |
33. On the missionary experience |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 03:17 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. Granted. But it's still more than McCain. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 03:57 PM Response to Reply #33 |
47. He won't be perceived as a jesuit as much as a lay person who sacrificed |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 10:50 PM Response to Reply #12 |
61. To reply to the rest of your post... |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
13. My case for and against |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 02:37 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. I think he is against abortion, but.... |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 02:46 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. He describes himself as having a "faith-based opposition", but supports Roe v. Wade. |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 02:54 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. This makes him look better to me on this issue |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 03:05 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Well, then there you have it. |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 02:38 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. I am not sure he is anti-gun....but His position on the Death Penalty is |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 02:42 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. I'm not sure the DP will be much of an issue anyway |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 02:49 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Not so much an issue |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 02:52 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. I think we can overcome that issue |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 02:48 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Anti-gun may be overstating it |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 02:51 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. I don't think there is such strong support |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 02:56 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. So they'd have to bring up Virginia Tech to nail him on gun control? |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 03:03 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. What I meant was |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
17. any foreign policy/military cred? |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 02:40 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. None. |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 02:40 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. None. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 02:52 PM Response to Reply #17 |
30. Is Obama ever going to match McCain on that point? |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 03:17 PM Response to Reply #30 |
39. No, but choosing a milit/foreign policy guru as VP |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 03:28 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. That raises another good point. |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 04:24 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. I'm not that worried about Philly. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 04:33 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. My point is that... |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 04:51 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. I understand your point, but |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 05:12 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. That's assuming... |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
37. A better analysis of Kaine....and, he plays HARMONICA! |
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gmudem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 03:13 PM Response to Original message |
38. Another positive about Kaine is his age |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 03:20 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. ? He looks like he is in his early thrirties lol |
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dtotire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
42. Seems like a good choice n/t |
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Phillycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
43. Here's my case against: |
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gmudem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 03:44 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. They would have the same reaction to almost any pick |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
45. I have more positives! |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 03:59 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. I'm sorry I missed that. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 11:05 PM Response to Reply #45 |
64. Found a link to that video! |
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Unsane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
50. The big negative = his name is like "Caine," i.e., the fundies'll go nuts. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 04:35 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. McCain? |
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Unsane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 12:32 AM Response to Reply #52 |
66. True, but Obama needs all the good PR he can get (with the fundies) |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 12:34 AM Response to Reply #66 |
68. So wouldn't running with a former missionary help? |
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Unsane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 12:36 AM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Perhaps, but nothing is too asinine for them. They would create an issue out of 'Obama-Kaine' |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 05:13 PM Response to Original message |
55. with just two and a half years experience as Governor...his resume might |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 05:17 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Lieutenant Governor (to Mark Warner) and Mayor of Richmond before that. |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 05:28 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Sen. Obama had several years in the Illinois State Senate - but nobody mentions it |
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Casper (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 06:11 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Kaine is a good guy but he has some problems. |
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nebula (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 10:57 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. If you're holding out for an anti-death penalty candidate |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 11:07 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. His stated position is that he feels the death penalty should be available... |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 08:54 PM Response to Original message |
60. Not to be blunt about this, but I'd prefer Kaine do something about our damn traffic hassles... |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 10:03 PM Response to Reply #60 |
78. I'm in D.C./MD. I feel your pain!! Traffic is a disgrace here!! n/t |
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nebula (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 10:59 PM Response to Original message |
63. Kaine is in my top three |
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SuperTrouper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-18-08 09:36 AM Response to Reply #63 |
85. I agree, Kaine is a good choice |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 12:33 AM Response to Original message |
67. very interesting. |
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smiley_glad_hands (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 12:36 AM Response to Original message |
70. Oh hell no. Let him finish his term and he can serve in the admin. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 12:41 AM Response to Reply #70 |
72. Most likely we're going to lose either a governor or a Senator. |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 12:36 AM Response to Original message |
71. The ObaMacKaine ticket? |
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LordJFT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 01:20 AM Response to Original message |
73. He's also got the washington outsider status, which jives with Obama's message |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 03:06 AM Response to Original message |
74. Would be a good choice to strongly consider. Adds balance to the ticket. |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 04:05 AM Response to Original message |
75. I worked very hard for Kaine |
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Rowdyboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
80. Nicely written and well presented but I disagree for several reasons..... |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 10:35 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. Thanks! |
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Rowdyboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 11:51 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. Its ultimately unknowable but its always fun to speculate..... |
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Celticsfan (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 11:57 PM Response to Original message |
83. Too moderate for my taste |
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