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Khaotic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 06:41 AM
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Carville: Gore would make a great vice president…again
WASHINGTON (CNN) – Democratic strategist James Carville told CNN Wednesday that former Vice President Al Gore should reprise his role as the No. 2 on a Democratic ticket.

“I think if I was Senator Obama I would say the biggest economic problem we face is the biggest national security problem and the biggest environmental problem,” Carville told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer on the Situation Room. “And if I were him, I would ask Al Gore to serve as his vice president, his energy czar, in his administration to reduce our consumption and reliance on foreign energy sources.

“That would send a signal to the world, to American people, to Congress, to everybody, that America's getting serious about this horrendous problem that we face.”

Link: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/06/12/carville-gore-would-make-a-great-vice-presidentagain/

Sounds good to me :-)

Obama/Gore 2008

Unstoppable!
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 06:43 AM
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1. It would be a co-Presidency.
Edited on Thu Jun-12-08 06:45 AM by terrya
There's no fucking way Al Gore would content himself to going to state funerals. Gore would ask, understandably, for a huge amount of power in an Obama White House. Nice in theory, but unworkable.
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Khaotic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 06:55 AM
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3. Wha?
You act as if Gore is a tyrant or something.

I think he would be an even better Vice President in an Obama administration than what he was under Clinton.

He could reprise the role in order to cement this for the Democrats.

Plus, it really makes people feel confident about Obama. People don't want to think about it, much less talk about it, but the VP slot is a heartbeat away from the presidency.

In the wake of something happening to Obama the Nation would grief stricken and knocked to our knees, but the confidence we would have in Gore to take the helm would be solid.

There's really no one else in the Party who would provide such confidence and a reliance that he would carry on everything started by Obama.

Knowing those facts makes the possibility that anything would happen to Obama that much more remote. The more people Obama has behind him who are like him makes his presidency more solid.

An Obama/Gore administration would really go far. I think Gore would be able to do so much more in that role than he can doing what he's doing right now, it's not funny.

Obama/Gore 2008!
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 06:57 AM
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4. Why would Al Gore accept an offer for an office he's already held?
If he's not running for President, he's sure as hell not going to accept VP.

I'm not suggesting that Gore is a tyrant, for Christ's sakes. I just don't think he has the slighest interest in it.
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Khaotic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 07:01 AM
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6. Maybe he liked the job?
Ever thought of that?

It's not exactly like he retired after a 30 year career as VP.

He brings a lot more to the job this time around.

You assume he has a HUGE ego or something.

The urgency of now is calling ... Obama/Gore 2008!
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 07:03 AM
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7. He's won a Nobel Peace Prize for his important work on global warming.
Edited on Thu Jun-12-08 07:04 AM by terrya
And that's what he sees as his life's calling. And it's an important one.

I don't think he'll put that aside to run for Vice President. He has the freedom to do what he's doing now precisely because he's not fettered with the compromise that would go with electoral politics.

Please don't label me as an Al Gore hater. I admire him as much as anyone on here. I just don't see this happening, period.
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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 08:19 AM
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19. Yes. What you said!
:thumbsup:
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 07:36 AM
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9. I agree and disagree with your
posts so far on this subject. I don't think he would accept this, but I don't think it has anything to do with the amount of power he would demand. But I do agree with the fact that he has a new calling which would prevent him from accepting. I could see him serving in a position that would allow him to further the cause of climate change- and that problem is as big as any problem facing this country. What ever he does, I wish him good luck.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 08:12 AM
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16. My comment about the amount of power he would ask was ill thought out and I apologize for it.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 08:21 AM
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20. It can be hard to say
what you really mean on a keyboard. Like you, I respect Al, and think he will play a part in this administration- either officially as a member of it or unofficially in an advising role.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 08:30 AM
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22. I have the utmost respect for Al Gore.
I didn't mean to suggest that he is some power hungry politician.

One of the TOP priorities in an Obama administration has to be global warming and climate change. Has to be. We should immediately signoff on the Kyoto Protocol, we should be at the very forefront of this serious problem. I hope, I dearly hope that Obama reaches out to Gore and utilizes his enormous expertise and passion and committment to this serious problem. Perhaps by merging EPA and Interior into a Department of the Environment cabinet level position as a sign that an Obama White House is strongly committed to fighting global warming. Perhaps he could offer Gore that. I don't know if Al Gore wants anything to do with government service anymore. I do think that Gore would be very useful in an Obama administration.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 08:44 AM
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24. I agree and think a co-Presidency doesn't work
It also weakens Obama to run as if he will be part of a co-Presidency. That HRC nearly claimed she deserved that role after the SD and Mt primaries was both delusional and despicable.

I can't see why Gore, who to some degree has the status usually given to ex-Presidents would want to run as VP. Assuming an Obama/Gore win, it would put him in a good place to run for President in 2016 - if he then has the interest and the energy. The cost would be putting himself and his family back into the awful slime machine process that he endured in 2000. If he agrees to run - it would likely be because he is convinced by Obama that he is Obama's best chance to win. It will then be for love of country (and the world), not personal gain - and done knowingly accepting a huge personal cost.

If it looks like Obama could win with many different Vps, any position that Obama could assign him as VP could be given directly by giving him the charge as President. For instance, the best way to put him in charge of global warming policy would be to make him secretary of State (where all treaties and negotiations typically are) or by creating a new energy czar position.
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RazBerryBeret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 06:48 AM
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2. I really like Gore,
but I'd say no to this, and why is Carville trying to sell this? I don't trust him.
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Khaotic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 06:59 AM
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5. I think ...
He's just making an observation on this particular occasion.

Carville invested everything of himself into getting Clinton/Gore into the White House.

He wanted to see the closest thing to that in Hillary getting the nomination, but it didn't happen.

He must not believe she's even in the running for VP.

I'm sure he always liked Al and would be very proud if the man he helped make it to the Vice Presidency ended up cementing a second Democratic White House bid to turn the Oval Office blue again.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 07:38 AM
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11. I just wish
he would take his smarmy ass back to whatever swamp he crawled out of.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 07:07 AM
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8. Carville is an idiot
Frankly I do not want to see Gore as VP. He should be President.

Why would he put aside all the good things he is doing to work on someone else's agenda? I would be shocked if Obama asked him and more shocked if he accepted.

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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 08:31 AM
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23. The wife is rubbing off on him
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 07:37 AM
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10. Stupid idea
and probably more than a little insulting to Gore.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 07:49 AM
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12. This is a very dumb idea and would be an insult to Al Gore.
In many ways, Al Gore is better qualified for the Presidency than anyone else on Earth.

Asking him to serve another 4 to 8 years in the Vice-President position would be an insult.

There are many ways that Al Gore can contribute to advancing the causes that are close to his heart.

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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 07:51 AM
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13. it's called damning with faint praise
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 07:53 AM
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14. Gore would have just ran for President if he intended to get into politics again
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papapi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 08:02 AM
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15. It seems Carville's sole purpose now is to make an idiot of himself.
Al Gore has committed himself to the global warming issue. He will continue to serve this country and the world on this issue.
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 08:14 AM
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17. Carville wants to sink the Obama ship ...
... otherwise why else would he suggest someone as politically polarizing as Gore?

Besides, Gore has already stated - more than once - that he is NOT interested in being VP again.

And personally, I think it would be an insult to ask him - he's 100x bigger than the VP's office.
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 08:15 AM
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18. I wish Carville would go play in traffic.
Or at least STFU. Every time he opens his face idiocy comes out.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 08:23 AM
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21. blindfolded at night.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 08:49 AM
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25. James Carville spouting more stupidity just because he can
Al Gore himself said "no way" to reprising his role as vice-president.

Carville is so desperate to remain a insider and power player; here's some advice, Jimmy me boy, that ship has sailed.

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Khaotic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 10:41 PM
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26. Obama/Gore


Gore didn't say "No Way."

Do you people think you live inside the head of Al Gore?

Maybe you think you do, but you don't.

He was Vice President for 8 years. That's not a lifetime.

There are guys who work in the coal mines for 30 years.

Al Gore did a lot as Vice President, more than the MSM ever talked about.

He was effective, but as effective as he was, maybe he has a number of items that he wished he had done if he could do them over.

I mean, what do you people fucking know?

You don't!

This is one thread I'll be shoving down a lot of throats if Obama/Gore becomes a reality.

He has given his entire life to public service.

He has been there and done that, but yet somehow you guys reduce his life to being above the fray, beyond considering this.

What the fuck?

Somehow I doubt very much that he considers himself above the fray.

For whatever reason, ones that he has first hand knowledge of, he did not want to run for president in 2004 or 2008.

However, he can assess the situation. He knows what he brings to the table. He knows the kind of impact he would like to have and what he would like to see accomplished.

If he comes to the conclusion that running beside Obama for another run as VP will accomplish what he wants to accomplish, he would do it.

You fucking people can take your perceived ego and shove it up your ass.

If the urgency of NOW calls him to run with Barack Obama and he accepts it then eat fucking crow.

Obama/Gore ... instead of coming up w/ all the fucking reasons he won't do it, think about it happening and ask yourself if that ticket would WIN the White House.

Take a taste of this ...

Like it or not (I happen to like it) an Obama administration will rely heavily on the qualified individuals he surrounds himself. There will be a TEAM back in the Executive Branch.

It will be about the people once again.

This won't be a repeat of the Clinton years. It won't rely the DLC. We will witness the first progressive administrations in a very long time.



An Obama/Gore ticket would be a progressive ticket.

I think it can happen.
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