Can Anyone Help Me Debunk This?

[slinkerwink]

I was forwarded this link from an anti-Obama website alleging that he'd said in a video clip, "I've never said troops should be withdrawn."

http://paganpower.wordpress.com/2008/06/12/resident-worm/#more-107

I'd like the full context to the video if possible, and any websites or other information debunking this.

It's time to fight back against these smears!

[tyne]

1. Who was for

withdrawing troops in 2004? Nobody that I remember.

[slinkerwink]

2. good point.

[babylonsister]

3. Check this out if you haven't already seen it; I'm trying to get an

e-mail addy we can all use:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6350840&mesg_id=6350840

[tyne]

4. That linked pagan website

does not admit that the video was from April 2004.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

5. You need a date for the second video.

I'm assuming that it was fairly early in the occupation. He may not have called for withdrawal...YET.

[tyne]

8. I'm assuming that this is the original

story link. People are neglecting to include the "update".

Update (AP): Readers are pointing out that the sidebar description on the YouTube page says this is from April 2004, not 2008. Sorry for the slip-up.

Update (Ed): My apologies for the error. The April 2004 date makes this somewhat interesting in a different way. Clearly, when things seemed to be going well at that time, Obama didn’t see a need to withdraw from Iraq. He could very well make the argument that he changed his mind as things got worse, which would be reasonable, if not correct in retrospect. However, Obama has claimed that he always opposed the Iraq war, while this shows that to be not quite the case.
Again, my apologies for the original error, and my thanks to my outstanding co-blogger Allahpundit for correcting it so quickly.




http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/11/obama-in-april-i-dont-want-a-timetable-for-withdrawal/

[papau]

9. Funny - the Hillary camp - and Bill's "fairy tale" comment -was killed by DU/media on this topic - I

wonder if the media response will be the same at this point in time.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

10. The update continues to miss the point, although it clarifies the date.

Withdrawal ≠ oppose.

[tyne]

11. They're trying as hard as they can.

IOW, "we were completely wrong...sorry about that...but...but....look, we can still make some perfume out of this dog shit if we look at it after turning somersaults and drinking a gallon of tequila".

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

12. :)

Yep.

[Mabus]

6. Here's a link to a video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kFrFIFizkU

Edited to replace the link to the RW blog with a direct link to the youtube video in question.

As far as I can tell he's saying that we can't just abandon the Iraqis after we've messed up their country. He's advocating for a reasonable policy of withdrawal not leaving the troops there.

[seaglass]

7. Here's a pretty good article that provides a timeline of Obama's

views -

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/03/08/obama_stance_on_iraq_shows_evolving_view/

[barack the house]

13. I think he has said not withdrawn all at once but not no withdrawl at all.