So lemme get this straight; Obama is leading among women,

[babylonsister]

Hispanics, in many states, and in a general match-up, yet m$nbc keeps making a big deal about how poorly he's doing. How do they figure? Their 'logic' is not...logical.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6351305

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[mohc]

1. Expectations

At this point the media has pretty much set the standard to a point where McCain just needs to literally stay alive through the election and it will be a success for him. Obama on the other hand needs to get at least 538 electoral votes in November or its a failure.

[southern_belle]

2. m$nbc wants to keep the Republicans

in office. GE will lose a lot of money when Obama ends the war.

[last_texas_dem]

3. It's 'cause he's not winning the white male vote

and all recent Democratic candidates have won that group pretty strongly.

:sarcasm:

[virtualobserver]

4. he hasn't locked up the racist white vote yet.....what will he need to do to reach out to them?

[dsomuah]

5. Bleach his skin

[Bucky]

7. .

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[babylonsister]

14. He doesn't need to; their minds are obviously made up. nt

[Pirate Smile]

6. He is also leading among white women but if they parse it just right they can say

he isn't leading among a certain segment of white women. :eyes:

He is also doing better then John Kerry did among white men in 2004. OMG - does Obama have a big race problem. :eyes:

[mcctatas]

8. I know, right?

All morning long they've been focused on Obama's supposed "problem" demographics and once again, teflon john gets a pass from the MSM.

Disgusting! :nuke:

[virtualobserver]

12. McCain does seem to be losing the human vote, which is the most critical demographic

[babylonsister]

13. LOL! I'd be interesting if they'd concentrate solely on what exactly

he is winning.

[TexasObserver]

9. He's losing to McCain in two, TWO demographics, so that's what they're talking about!

White men and white suburban women.

The suburbs usually tilt Republican. White, married people as a group tilt GOP. This is not unique to Obama. This is how it has been for Democrats running for president since LBJ and the Civil Rights Act.

It is outrageous, however, that the gist of the coverage is about "Obama's problem with suburban white women." McCain is getting beaten in most demographics, but that's not the topic of discussion. No, white women who don't vote for B-lack Obama, oops, I meant Ba-rack Obama, are the topic.

[babylonsister]

15. Being a white suburban woman, I don't even know how to

respond to that. I'd like to see more in depth polling on that demo.

[TexasObserver]

20. Across the nation, suburbs tend to vote Republican.

If we look at the numbers on voting in presidential elections the past 40 years, we see that as a group, white people vote more heavily for the GOP nominee. The suburbs are mainly white people. They move to the suburbs to be away from the more diverse areas of the city.

I'm saying it is perfectly to be expected that a suburb, like Kingwood, or Friendswood, or Katy, would be a white, conservative enclave that leans away from the Democratic nominee, whether that person is male or female, black or white.

But in the case of Obama, the media are focusing on this demographic fact - that Obama is "losing" white suburban women - because it is salacious to do so. It fits with the "white woman clutches purse in elevator as black man gets on" fear mongering.

I could be wrong, but no one seems concerned that black women reject McCain 92-8.

[butterfly77]

10. They continue to say that a lot of these people have moved to Obama..

when they moved months ago, these talking heads are not counting the shifting after some of these elections, and a lot of new voters, republicans, the newly informed...

[tekisui]

11. They want a Horse Race.

[pot luck]

16. Did anyone else

catch Tweety saying that he doesn’t trust Barack’s lead over McCain and then cite the Bradley Effect? I had to turn off the t.v. at that point.

[Tim4319]

17. I saw a poll on CNN yesterday,

that stated that Barack is winning every geographic except white men! He is leading in white woman, hispanics, and jewish voters.

[lxlxlxl]

18. yeah...once cable TV gets hung up on a subject...they ROLL with it

They are still giving all of this significance to the primary battles, between clinton and obama supporters, as if those numbers weren't dictated by the existence of the contests themselves! Just because you can put a number on something doesnt mean it cant change...statistics FREEZE social phenomena, they explain what happened, not what WILL happen...it's all Bergson really. sigh...

Why is everyone picking on MSNBC though, has everyone forgotten that there are other much worse stations?

[babylonsister]

19. I don't watch worse stations; I can barely tolerate this one, with some

exceptions.

[Cha]

21. Mainstreammediawhores will be doing their

damnest to derail Team Obama at every turn because when he becomes president the corporatewhores won't be rakin' it in quite so heavily.