This caller on the Ed Schultz show

[madaboutharry]

is really annoying me. Norman Goldman is filling in and talking to this woman who is saying "Barack Obama is going to have to work for my vote and not take women for granted......"

This is what disturbs me: This election is about our nation and really, about the future of the world. It is about every person without health insurance and every soldier who may be sent into another illegal war. It is about our economy and our environment. It is not about this caller or any of us individually. I don't get this level of narcissism. It is self-indulgent and counter productive.

There is nothing noble or righteous in staying home on election day or voting for McCain out of spite.

I don't ever recall anything like this.

[yurbud]

1. I think a good deal of it is astroturf, possibly of Republican origin

[MadBadger]

2. Nothing is as bad as that fucktard Lynne Samuels

You know, if i wanted to listen to Obama being trashed every which way, Id turn on Faux. I dont expect to get it from Sirius Left which Lynne has a show on before Ed. I absolutely cannot stand that women.

[butterfly77]

3. I was listening also and I just tuned her out...

and began doing something else because the show usually has 2 or 3 a day, and it is usually the same line about how Obama and his supporters should be nice and start begging them to vote for him, as though we are the enemy..

[grassfed]

4. outmoded identity politics have created many frankensteins

they're not Liberals, care nothing about war crimes or the environment, just their niche which they've grown accustomed to being revered for - they're not bright enough to see that they were farmed liked cattle for votes.

[Ilsa]

Thank you for your post.

You're making too much sense for alot of people!

There are alot of people who seem capable of voting against their own interests. The working poor who vote GOP, for example. The caller sounds like someone who won't vote unless she believes she's going to get something someone else promised her. Well, too bad for her if it doesn't turn out that way for her. And she can watch the country she knew got to hell in a handbasket if she can't see past her narcissism.

[saracat]

5. Every candidate should have to work for the women's vote as well as the gay vote and

the economy and to end the war! Why shouldn't a candidate have to work for the womens vote as well as any other?

[Tim4319]

6. Let's just say that Barack is bad for women!

Now, if they are so upset that they will either vote for McCain or don't vote at all (which is a vote for McCain). McCain views are far worse for women than Barack's views.

It sound like to me, that she want to "prove a point"! By voting for someone who respects women far less than Barack does is crazy to me. So, how does that make sense!

I am just speaking hypothetically!

[graywarrior]

7. I just convinced someone last night that voting for Obama was the wisest thing to do

Guy told me he couldn't decide on who to vote for. I spend 4 hours in a car training him to take over my job. By the end of the trip, he was all for Obama. For every person who claims Obama will have to work for her vote, I am working on an undecided voter to convince them to vote for him. In fact, I will convince every two for her self centered reluctance. So there.

[depakid]

8. I don't get what's wrong with that statement in the slightest

In fact, if more Americans weren't sheep and DEMANDED that their politicians work for their votes and NOT sell them down the river on issue after issue, the country wouldn't be in the sorry shape its in- and the Democratic party wouldn't be full of cowardly and complicit DINO's.

[blondeatlast]

9. Women like these are insulting women like me who can simply look at

the candidate's records and decide for ourselves.

I felt confident enough in Obama to vote for him in the primary and certainly enough so now. I almost voted for Clinton, though; the hair's breadth just went the other way.

And as mentioned upthread, it's AstroTurf.

No way in hell would a self-respecting feminist vote McCain. don't buy it.

[marlakay]

10. i can tell she will be fine

she admitted she agreed to all the policies of obama, she just needs time to grieve and work thru her anger.

[butterfly77]

11. The woman who just called...

really kind of summed it up, it is as though they are still living in the sixties,and they fail to realize that there is a new generation of woman who don't see it the way they do. There is just a new generation who are ready for change.

A lot of the people who are talking about voting for McCain are older and won't even be here to deal with the policies of Mccain but their children and grandchildren will.

[sufrommich]

14. That's really a horrible thing to say,

There seems to be a counter argument going on to discredit older feminists and split the movement along generational lines.NOW and older feminists leaders like Gloria Steinem wasted no time getting behind Obama along with the vast majority of older feminists.Don't dismiss women who led the march in the 60s as being unable to see beyond that decade and casually posting that they'll be dead before the next president comes into office is crass and morbid.Yeesh.

[butterfly77]

17. I am not trying to discredit older feminists...

There are a lot of people who really do think that women should have voted for hillary just because she is a women and I just don't see it that way. I was on her side until she did many things I disliked.

It is the truth some of these women will vote for mccain out of spite and are not looking at the big picture, and another thing I am not saying that these people will be dead when the next president comes into office.

I am saying that they are not thinking about the policies that mccain could enact that will effect the younger generations this is about the future, that is if there is still a country, if and mccain were elected. Its just that serious...

[sufrommich]

12. Every single one of these "former Clinton women"

sounds as if they're reading from a script.I smell a republican dirty trick. Polls show the vast majority of former female Clinton supporters(myself included) moving over to Obama without a second thought.The dirty tricksters certainly are media savvy though.

[dorkulon]

13. Perhaps he should bring her some flowers and chocolates.

I'm sick of hearing that "he's going to have to woo me" crap. I've never seen so much self-indulgent sore-loserism in my life. I supported Dean on '04, and hated the way he lost, but then I dusted myself off and hopped on the Kerry wagon. I never once thought of voting Bush, and I never was under the impression that my feelings mattered in the slightest with regard to a presidential election.

[Diamonique]

15. Ditto everything Dorkulon said!

But I do think most of this crap is coming from Republicans just trying to keep the shitpot stirred.
Polls are showing Clinton's supporters moving to Obama in droves.

[madwivoter]

16. I heard that earlier too

and I think she's working through some grief.

She admitted that she will probably vote for Obama.

I think there are a couple of things people need to note when it comes to anyone who supported Hillary Clinton's primary campaign and say they will vote for McCain:

1. If they are Democrats who are Hillary Clinton supporters, they will probably vote for Obama come November
2. If they are NOT Democrats and supported Hillary Clinton, those are the ones that are probably using the "I'll vote for McCain" threat

The polls today would indicate that we are on track to reunite the party.

[FrenchieCat]

18. These "woo me" female voters are embarassing me.

It is as though they aren't smart enough who's who in this election in reference to their policies.

I don't feel like being "wooed" or "pandered" to because I'm a woman.