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OneDemsConscience Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 09:23 PM
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Why Today's Gitmo Decision Is A Gift For Obama
1) Can you believe that McCain is actually dumb enough to oppose habeus corpus for international prisoners? Besides being morally wrong and counter-productive to US interests, it's just bad politics.

2) Notice that both Alito and Roberts voted with Scalia. By siding with Bush and his appointees, McCain signals he is no different on Bush on human rights and legality, and that we can expect the same bad judicial appointments under McCain as under Bush.

This is a huge break for Obama--I hope he exploits the issue to the fullest.
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 09:32 PM
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1. His Statement On The Ruling Today Was Perfect
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OneDemsConscience Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 12:02 AM
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2. Hell Yes!!!!
Obama's statement (from the website).....
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Today's Supreme Court decision ensures that we can protect our nation and bring terrorists to justice, while also protecting our core values. The Court's decision is a rejection of the Bush Administration's attempt to create a legal black hole at Guantanamo - yet another failed policy supported by John McCain. This is an important step toward reestablishing our credibility as a nation committed to the rule of law, and rejecting a false choice between fighting terrorism and respecting habeas corpus. Our courts have employed habeas corpus with rigor and fairness for more than two centuries, and we must continue to do so as we defend the freedom that violent extremists seek to destroy. We cannot afford to lose any more valuable time in the fight against terrorism to a dangerously flawed legal approach. I voted against the Military Commissions Act because its sloppiness would inevitably lead to the Court, once again, rejecting the Administration's extreme legal position. The fact is, this Administration's position is not tough on terrorism, and it undermines the very values that we are fighting to defend. Bringing these detainees to justice is too important for us to rely on a flawed system that has failed to convict anyone of a terrorist act since the 9-11 attacks, and compromised our core values.
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 10:18 PM
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3. And exploit he must and eloquently
There are a lot of Americans who said, "I don't give a fuck if they torture those Arabs." And I quote.

I think if anyone can elevate the embarrassed spirits of most Americans, it is Obama. He impresses me more every day. He can really bring people up with him, above the evil fray that has been Bush. However, there will be those people who want to bomb the Middle East out of existence because they are so very afraid. McCain will feed on that fear, and Obama has to be ready to steer the masses in the right direction with well thought, convincing, viable out alternatives. It's a big damned job and we all have to help him.

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