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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 09:21 AM
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McCain Lies about supporting Social Security privatization
During his town hall event in New Hampshire yesterday, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) got into a verbal back and forth with a voter over his support for Social Security privatization. McCain told the man, “I’m not for, quote, privatizing Social Security. I never have been. I never will be.”


But McCain’s record begs to differ:

- “Without privatization, I don’t see how you can possibly, over time, make sure that young Americans are able to receive Social Security benefits.”

- “As part of Social Security reform, I believe that private savings accounts are a part of it — along the lines that President Bush proposed.”

Not only was McCain “a big booster” of Bush’s 2005 plan to privatize Social Security, but one of his top economic advisers, Carly Fiorina, recently told conservative radio host Bill Bennett that McCain “supports private accounts as one of the ways to reform the system” and that “he will continue to be supportive of those.”


http://thinkprogress.org/
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 09:26 AM
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1. Keep lying John.
They do tape these meetings. They'll make wonderful commercials.

John McCain, flip-flopping, and planning to fuck you, in his own words.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 09:36 AM
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2. I think we need a Attack McCain Forum
A place where just articles that catch him in his gaffs, lies, funny pictures and mis-statements are.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 10:02 AM
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3. What we need is a McCain Truth forum to point out the lies of what he says now
in relation to what he has said in the past. Then we need to have people write letters to their papers where McCain is condemned as a liar from his own mouth using quotes he made.
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Oceansaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 10:17 AM
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4. good luck with that....n/t....
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 10:28 AM
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5. Yes, Maybe a war room on McCain's Lies, Deceptions and Corruption
Yes, Maybe a war room on McCain's Lies, Deceptions and Corruption

I like this forum but sometimes the anti McCain stories don't get the exposure
they need and need to be consolidated in one place to use as a resource.

This other anti-McCain story only had 5 comments but got 19 noms
it is now on the fourth page of Presidential politics.



http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6354573&mesg_id=6354573
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 12:17 PM
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6. Good idea. Good title. Mc* Lies, Deceptions and Corruption.
I think it would be a useful resource. No need to hunt for the examples of Mc* duplicity. Have them in a central forum.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 12:33 PM
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7. Obama Targets McCain’s Social Security Flip-Flop..Damn he's fast!!!!
Today in Columbus, OH Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama will talk about protecting Social Security, and John McCain’s flip-flop on the issue.

“Now, John McCain’s ideas on Social Security amount to four more years of what was attempted and failed under George Bush. He said he supports private accounts for Social Security – in his words, “along the lines that President Bush proposed.” Yesterday he tried to deny that he ever took that position, leaving us wondering if he had a change of heart or a change of politics,” Obama will say.

He will propose raising the cap on the on the payroll tax, “Here’s where I would start. Right now, the Social Security payroll tax is capped. That means most middle-class families pay this tax on every dime they make, while millionaires and billionaires are only paying it on a very small percentage of their income. That’s why I think the best way forward is to adjust the cap on the payroll tax so that people like me pay a little bit more and people in need are protected.” He has often said that the increase will not apply to those making under $250,000, and that 97% of Americans will see no change in their taxes.

Then he will go after McCain for what is an endless series of flip-flops, “Now, there was a time when John McCain thought this wasn’t such a bad idea. When he was asked a few years ago whether he could see himself lifting the cap on the payroll tax, he said, “I could.” But today, he’s attacking me for holding the very same position.”



http://www.politicususa.com/en/Obama-Social-Security
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 12:35 PM
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8. McCain doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.
Either he really is senile, or he still hasn't figured out that the Internet has allowed his lies to be exposed in record time.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 12:41 PM
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9. And Obama just nailed him on it
I love his campaign. I know the Gitmo/Supreme court talk gramps did today
Obama will answer him back by the end of the day.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 12:48 PM
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10. Obama's Nails it again with this quote about McCain's SS flip flop
“You know, John McCain has proposed a series of debates,
and I’m looking forward to having them.

But when it comes to Social Security, he might want to finish the debate with himself first.”


http://thepage.time.com/2008/06/13/fridays-economic-terrain-social-security/
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 12:51 PM
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11. the young people are the ones FUNDING the retirement of Seniors
McCain is right, he doesnt know a thing about economics.
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