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Fri Jun-13-08 11:12 AM
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You Guys And Gals Are "So Smart". Who Is Obama going to take as his VP? |
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I hear Joe Biden and Jim Webb mentioned a lot...
They would be ok...
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Fri Jun-13-08 11:15 AM
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...who happens to be my favorite. Biden is up there on my personal list as well -- behind Schweitzer.
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Fri Jun-13-08 11:17 AM
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4. Webb Is An Interesting Choice. |
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If you want a military man why not pick Clark?
He has executive as well as military experience and he is not a politician.
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Fri Jun-13-08 11:26 AM
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13. I love Webb's biography, his "air of authenticity" and frank demeanor, his geo-demo appeal... |
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Edited on Fri Jun-13-08 11:27 AM by jefferson_dem
among other things.
Webb has executive experience as does Clark and he is no more a politician than is Clark - the fact that he has actually competed in and won a popular election notwithstanding.
Not to conjure up old wounds but I lost a bit of respect for Clark when he latched onto the Hillary-wagon last year.
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Fri Jun-13-08 11:17 AM
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Fri Jun-13-08 11:18 AM
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6. That's Kind Of Obvious |
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Fri Jun-13-08 11:39 AM
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20. True - and which male will it be? |
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Fri Jun-13-08 11:44 AM
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22. Snark and a sexist statement. n/t |
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Fri Jun-13-08 11:54 AM
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Fri Jun-13-08 12:18 PM
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27. I wouldn't count her out yet. Just sayin'... she's out of the picture for right now. |
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We still have to go through the Democratic Convention.
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Fri Jun-13-08 11:17 AM
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3. I like Biden more than Webb, but increasingly, I feel that there might |
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be too much ammo on both of them--too much distraction. Look at the focus on Obama's VP-committee guy, Obama's preacher, Obama's church's GUEST preacher--there is an intense GOP/media operation underway to tie him to anything questionable that anyone associated with him has ever said or done. Whomever Obama chooses will have to be squeaky-clean and gaffe-less.
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Fri Jun-13-08 11:20 AM
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7. Biden Has Made Some Well Publicized Gaffes. Webb Has Made Some Controversial Remarks About Women And |
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Has Praised The Confederacy.
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Fri Jun-13-08 11:17 AM
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5. I predict Tim Kaine. nt |
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Fri Jun-13-08 11:20 AM
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8. I don't want him to take a sitting senator. |
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He should take the advice of my sig pic.
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Fri Jun-13-08 11:23 AM
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9. I Like Wes Clark A Lot But I Have A Gut Feeling He's Going To Take A Politician |
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Too bad...
General Clark is head and shoulders above any Republicant McSame can pick...
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Fri Jun-13-08 11:30 AM
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14. But that wouldn't work with his "Change" ideas. |
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I think outside the box - someone of whom the media is not talking (too much) about - would be more in keeping with his goals.
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Fri Jun-13-08 11:32 AM
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15. Wes Clark Would Make Me Happy |
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Fri Jun-13-08 11:24 AM
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10. I've been on the Webb bandwagon lately |
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but the more I think about it, Clark would be a great choice.
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Fri Jun-13-08 11:24 AM
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11. My thinking is Clark, Sebelius, or Webb. |
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Clark has unquestionable foreign policy and diplomacy experience.
Sebelius has administrative skills and a proven record for winning in a red state, even with a solidly Democratic platform. She also gives us Kansas.
Webb brings military gravitas both as a vet and as the proponent of the new GI bill, which McCain still opposes, as well as bringing Virginia with him, and reaching out to the disaffected Republicans.
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Fri Jun-13-08 11:36 AM
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17. It is highly doubtful Sebelius gives us Kansas. |
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What people don't seem to get is that it doesn't matter one little bit. Obama runs a bigger game than that, he has no need to pick a VP based on one state maybe flipping, he'll look for someone to move the numbers in EVERY state. I think Sebelius can do that.
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Fri Jun-13-08 11:55 AM
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25. Latest polling only has us down by 4 points in Kansas. |
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Even without a VP pick. So my thinking is that yeah, Sebelius can deliver Kansas, if it doesn't flip on its own before we have a VP candidate.
Turnout is our friend this year.
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Fri Jun-13-08 03:20 PM
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37. If that is repeated in other polls I'll believe it. |
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Until then I'm considering it an outlier.
Main point being though: don't care if Sebelius delivers Kansas or not, would want her on the ticket anyway for the other benefits she brings.
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Fri Jun-13-08 11:26 AM
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12. Why not Claire McCaskill? |
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Edited on Fri Jun-13-08 11:26 AM by 4_Legs_Good
Delivery of Missouri would be super, super good, plus she's gotta have enough popularity to tip Ohio too, right?
Right??
I'm still pulling for Mark Warner, though. I think he's what we need at the bottom of the ticket.
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Fri Jun-13-08 02:02 PM
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31. We need Claire in that seat |
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Edited on Fri Jun-13-08 02:02 PM by loyalsister
I think that Obama needs to choose someone who at the very least has a strong relationship with feminists. I think that leaves Clark in the running. Takes Webb out. Possibly Biden stays in. Sebelius comes out on top.
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Fri Jun-13-08 11:35 AM
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16. I predict that Obama will surprise us all. n/t |
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Fri Jun-13-08 02:08 PM
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33. I'd say that's the best bet. |
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Edited on Fri Jun-13-08 02:09 PM by TahitiNut
No matter how I try to puzzle it out, I'm left with the conclusion that I'll be at least mildly surprised ... and the odds are about 2-to-1 that it'll be a pleasant surprise instead of an unpleasant one. At the same time, it's likely I'll go "Oh! Well that makes sense! D'oh!"
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Fri Jun-13-08 11:37 AM
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18. I'd lay my money on the field, so to speak. |
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Edited on Fri Jun-13-08 11:37 AM by Occam Bandage
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Fri Jun-13-08 11:38 AM
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19. I'm thinking Governor rather than Senator |
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and definitely not a General; he'll save that for the cabinet.
The contenders: Sebelius, Schweitzer, Richardson and Kaine.
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Fri Jun-13-08 11:41 AM
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21. Some CEO type possibly Mayor Bloomberg. n/t |
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Fri Jun-13-08 11:45 AM
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23. My sig speaks for itself, if you agree steal it! |
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I've liked him since I read how he almost slugged B*sh for asking "how's your boy"?
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Fri Jun-13-08 12:31 PM
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will not be happy with anyone Obama picks.
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Fri Jun-13-08 12:46 PM
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30. Someone who will suprise all of us |
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I've come to expect the unexpected from Obama. I like that about him. And it keeps the repukes off-balance.
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Fri Jun-13-08 02:14 PM
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34. The V.P. slot will have to fulfill at least 3 out of 5 of the following criteria: |
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1. A Southerner or Westerner or South westerner or border stater
2. Someone with a strong foreign policy and national security C.V.
3. Someone who has particular appeal in rural areas, small towns, mid size cities and outer suburbs
4. Someone from a swing-state
5. Could possibly be a woman
Anyone who does not fulfill at least three of these requirements is unlikely to be considered as a plausible V.P. candidate.
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Fri Jun-13-08 02:25 PM
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35. I think Biden being a Northeasterner from a small urbane safe Democratic state |
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makes him unlikely.
Richardson's name is mentioned frequently, but I think strategist would hesitate to support a hispanic on a ticket led by an African-American - thinking it may weaken the ability of many working class white voters to identify with the ticket.
Webb has some baggage and can be a little bit rough around the edges, but over all he appears to meet the criteria better than any other potential Vice Presidential possibilities frequently mentioned. And he would have a good chance of helping put Virginia into the Democratic column.
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Fri Jun-13-08 02:40 PM
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36. Two and three are the most important, IMO |
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If you look at the county maps for almost all of the primaries, Obama was way strong in urban areas and weak in the areas you mention. And that's among Democrats. Throw in the indies and Republicans for the GE, who already outnumber us in rural areas, and he's got a potential problem.
One and four - depends on his strategy. Will he go for the west to offset losing Florida and possibly Ohio? Or will he pick someone from a large swing state? We can talk about the fifty state strategy, but it's still going to come down to the usual battleground states, and having one in your pocket because of your VP pick is nothing to sneer at.
I don't think five is that important, myself. It could even backfire if it's seen by Hillary supporters as a sop.
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