McJekyll and McHyde?

[Ichingcarpenter]

Scathing Article on John McCain but read it from the beginning.



>>>>>> Major Snip
There are no public records from other POWs to confirm McCain's self-aggrandizing claims, but his detractors, like fellow POWs Ted Guy and Gordon "Swede" Larson, and Colonel Hopper, have yet to be discredited or silenced by McCain’s PR team.

Hopper, Guy and Larson are part of a larger movement concerned with the fate of the 2,000 American veterans still missing in Vietnam. They’ve been pressing McCain to own up to his POW experience, drop the “war hero” posturing, and do more to provide a full accounting of the POWs and MIAs who were not as fortunate, privileged, or willing to collaborate as the would-be president.

McCain’s supporters are trying to quiet detractors by ignoring them. "Nobody believes these idiots. They're a bunch of jerks. Forget them," said Mark Salter, McCain's chief mythologist. Salter is credited by casting McCain as a modern Teddy Roosevelt, “the war hero turned domestic reformer.” (11)

By in large the Salter strategy has worked. The American media accepts McCain’s “war hero” myth as gospel and, in so doing, bolsters the “straight talk” image so essential to his success in politics. In a recent TV interview with John Kerry, victim of the Swift Boat Heroes for Truth Movement in the last election, another “fortunate son,” Chris Wallace, actually took umbrage when Kerry criticized McCain. Son of media admiral Mike Wallace, Chris made Kerry admit that McCain was a hero.
When it comes to psywar, the Vietnamese have nothing on the good old USA.

McCain learned his lesson well from the Vietnamese propagandists who used him for their psywar projects. But it’s not the collaboration that makes John McCain unfit for office; it’s the fact that he has managed to rewrite his collaboration into political capital. “He’s a war hero, respect him, or die.”


McCain is not some principled leader, not a maverick cowboy fighting the powerful. He’s a sycophant. He believes in nothing but power and will do anything to attain it. He explodes in anger when challenged because, when a criticism hits to close to home, it goes to straight his deep-seeded shame.>>>>>>Snip

http://www.counterpunch.org/valentine06132008.html

[madaboutharry]

1. It is incredible how McCain has been permitted to

rewrite history.

[Youphemism]

2. Fighting McCain's war record is a losing battle.

There are video records of him having lost fifty pounds, with multiple broken bones, being near death.

Even if you want to discount all the reports, that video on its own showed he suffered more than any human being should ever have to.

I'm no McCain fan, I just know a losing battle when I see one. You're so much better off just going along with that and asking the question, "What's happened to him since then? How could he now condone torture, cut off funding for vets, be such a warhawk, and have such a hard time keeping the players straight in our current battles?"

The John McCain of today is not the John McCain of back then. But you will never gain anything by attacking his war record. There will be backlash if you try.

[Ichingcarpenter]

3. Sounds like you didn't read the article

[Youphemism]

4. I read it. I've read ones like it. It's pretty sleazy.

And it's a losing argument. McCain's last 20 years include so many reasons not to elect him president.

If you think you can help Obama with this argument, you're very mistaken.

[JimGinPA]

5. I Don't Think It's A Losing Argument At All...

Seemed to work fine against Kerry and Max Cleland. Fuck these holier-than-thou repugs!

[Youphemism]

6. It isn't right, no matter who you do it to. Anyone who does that is scum...

All you need to do is look at a photo of McCain before he got to that camp and the video of them in that camp. Even with today's special effects, you could not fake that much suffering.

You simply have to be a horrific, unempathetic, anything-to-win, sociopathic zealot to turn your back on that kind of suffering.

I'll slam McCain left, right, and center. He's a two-faced, double-talking douchebag.

But I won't badmouth what the record clearly shows he endured. It's wrong. And it's a losing argument.

[Ichingcarpenter]

7. OK release his debriefing records from Nam

The article addresses some of the concerns I've had with his "war record"
and his psychosis behavior of appeasing Bush and others while flip-flopping
on issues throughout his career while always sucking up to the powers that
be.

The author of the article was explaining prisioner of war issues.
My father, who served in the pacific heard of the same
stories as were addressed in the author's story.


Now, the other point is that McCain's treatment of humans
at Gitmo are starting to negate any credence he can claim
on his own history.

Should the Obama campaign use this? Of course not!
But you don't work for the campaign and neither do I.

[Overseas]

8. Excellent article on military record of John Sidney McCain III. /nt