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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 01:29 PM
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Top Hillary Fundraiser Has Questions About Obama's Trustworthiness (She Might Help McCain)
Edited on Fri Jun-13-08 01:32 PM by cryingshame
Many Hillary Fundraisers are coming aboard. That's great and an important news story.

Please know I am emphatically NOT posting this as any kind of reflection on Hillary. This is about what this one particular woman, who throws money around to political candidates, means by "trustworthy".

Does it refer to whether or not Obama will help forge legislation to her liking? If she gives and bundles large sums, is he going to be pliable and push lawmakers to follow an agenda that benefits her own personal financial interests at the expense of the Common Good?

There is something disturbing about this- she isn't just a Clinton fundraiser, she's on the Democratic national convention's platform committee.


'Lynn Forester de Rothschild, a top Clinton fund-raiser, telecommunications entrepreneur and member of the Democratic national convention’s platform committee, said she had questions about Mr. Obama’s trustworthiness. If he does not answer them, Ms. de Rothschild said she would at least consider voting for Mr. McCain or even working for him.

“I love my country more than I love my party,” said Ms. de Rothschild, who said she had been receiving entreaties from both Mr. Obama’s and Mr. McCain’s backers. “I can’t just fall in line.'

She's on the freaking Democratic national convention platform committee and she would at least consider voting for McCain or working for him"

:wtf:
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Max_powers94 Donating Member (715 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 01:34 PM
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1. F her n/t
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 01:36 PM
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4. with a chainsaw
If she's too old to worry about her reproductive rights and too selfish to think of other women who still can then f her in the most obnoxious of ways.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 01:34 PM
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2. This is crazy
It's like they're trying to hold the party hostage. I remember how contentious the last election was but I don't remember people threatening to vote for Bush because Dean didn't get the nomination.

I'm getting tired of their whining. It's so contradictory. She can't trust Obama so she may vote for McCain. She trusts McCain?
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ninja8590 Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 01:37 PM
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5. It's fucking ridiculous.
Edited on Fri Jun-13-08 01:38 PM by ninja8590
And look at the bat shit propaganda she's spewing...."I love my country more than I love my party," That's right out of the Republican play book.


Edited to fix the quote.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 01:41 PM
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11. Pitiful
I bet she doesn't even realize she's using propaganda out of the Repubs playbook.
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Youphemism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 01:36 PM
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3. "It's My Party, I'll Shanghai if I Want To" /nt
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 01:37 PM
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6. I believe the right phrase is "temper tantrum."
"Trustworthy" means "He's not who I wanted, so I'm going to try and sabotage him out of spite."
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 01:38 PM
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7. You know what? FUCK HER!
Edited on Fri Jun-13-08 01:47 PM by BattyDem
I am so fed up with these so-called Democrats who are undermining our nominee and threatening to vote for McCain. She should be kicked off the platform committee for saying that! We don't need Democrats like this. This election is far too important for us to waste time fighting members of our own party.

:grr: :grr: :grr:
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 01:39 PM
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8. I wonder how long she will remain on the DNC committee now that....
Obama is setting the agenda, and imprinting his style on the DNC?
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 03:45 PM
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41. I don't believe Obama has the power to remove.
Question is whether Rothschild is a DNC member. I don't believe she is a DNC member.

And what are the rules for one being a member of the Platform committe.


What should be done if it isn't in the DNC rules is revise it and have a person removed if they make such a statement that supports the opposing party.

Not sure what committee if any that can censure and remove but maybe the Credentials committee?
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 01:40 PM
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9. Wow, I thought she was pretty much British
Must be nice to be a part of the ruling faction in two countries.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 01:47 PM
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18. Try India, South America and China too...she has billions
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 02:01 PM
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25. I'm not certain her interest is solely "what's good for America"
http://www.portfolio.com/views/columns/the-world-according-to/2007/10/05/An-interview-with-Lady-de-Rothschild

.....

When 67-year-old British banking scion Sir Evelyn Rothschild first set eyes on 44-year-old Lynn Forester at the 1998 Bilderberg conference—the matchmaker was none other than Henry Kissinger—she was already a woman of major means.

.....

Today the New Jersey-born Lady de Rothschild—the flashiest hostess in London—is mates with Tony and Cherie Blair, among other topflight Britons. She's also mistress of the former John Singer Sargent home in Chelsea and of Ascott House, the 3,200-acre Rothschild family estate in Buckinghamshire, and the chief executive of E.L. Rothschild, the holding company that she owns with her third husband to manage investments in the Economist and various enterprises in India.

.....

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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 02:20 PM
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34. What and Who is good for the Rothschilds is any that can be bought
and sold like a commodity.
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 02:54 PM
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36. Thanks for interesting article
She, like Hillary, thinks highly of Rupert Murdock, go figure. I dislike the guy extremely? Hillary and Ms. Rothschild seem to feel a real closeness with India. Wish they could show the same enthusiasm for the U.S. industry.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 04:33 PM
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43. Murdock?
Oh yeah, his rag here in NY endorsed Obama. Is he also Obama's friend?
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 01:40 PM
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10. She has questions on Obama's trustworthiness? Was she around for the Keating 5 scandals?
Or the fact that McSame is an adulterer?

Trustworthiness?

Fuck her to hell and back.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 01:41 PM
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12. We don't need her or her money
Fuck her.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 01:41 PM
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13. If she refuses to back the nominee, she has no place on the DNC platform committee
:kick: her ass out of there.
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NoFederales Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 01:43 PM
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14. If it is true that she expects personal benefits, she needs to go; she also needs to be put off of
the platform committee.

"I love my money more than my party, or my country" is what she seems to be sayin', just sayin'.

NoFederales
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Kokonoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 01:43 PM
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15. 'Lynn Forester de Rothschild, is not trustworthy enough to be a
member of the Democratic national convention platform committee.


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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 01:44 PM
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16. Some of Hillary's diehard supporters need to get past her loss

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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 01:56 PM
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22. It sounds like most of them are. Some begrudgingly, but that's okay.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 01:44 PM
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17. She meet her Husband at a Bilderberg Conference.... some juicy points on her
Today the New Jersey-born Lady de Rothschild—the flashiest hostess in London—is mates with Tony and Cherie Blair, among other topflight Britons. She's also mistress of the former John Singer Sargent home in Chelsea and of Ascott House, the 3,200-acre Rothschild family estate in Buckinghamshire, and the chief executive of E.L. Rothschild, the holding company that she owns with her third husband to manage investments in the Economist and various enterprises in India.

Those include FieldFresh, a startup that will grow and export Indian fruits and vegetables for markets in Europe and Asia, and a soon-to-be-announced retail venture aimed at the exploding Indian middle class.

In July, Sir Evelyn completed the sale of his stake in the centuries-old English branch of the Rothschild banking empire (for a reported $600 million)—which frees up a lot of capital for them to be major players in the Indian business world.


L.G.: You're a media owner. How do you think Rupert Murdoch is going to do with the Wall Street Journal?

L.R.: I think Rupert made a brilliant acquisition. I have so much respect for Rupert Murdoch, I cannot even tell you. I don't, of course, agree with his politics all the time, but I think that he is a visionary. I think he is gutsy. Everyone I've ever known who's done a deal with Rupert cannot say a bad word about him. He's honorable, and I think it's an obvious thing for him to do, and I think it was brilliant.


This person is a nasty person:
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=7322
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 01:48 PM
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19. LOOK: Lynn Forester de Rothschild says this...
Edited on Fri Jun-13-08 01:58 PM by zulchzulu


"What is in the best interest of all Americans? And I think if history is our guide, we've had stronger economies, more wealth creation, under Democratic presidents than we have under Republican presidents. So I don't understand why all my capitalist friends aren't Democrats..."

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread350752/pg1
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 01:48 PM
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20. Fuck this idiot.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 01:51 PM
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Andrea Mitchell was talking about this with some women from different pro-woman groups like Angie's
list....

and the reps from these women's groups were saying that they have only begun to get the message out
about McCain's agenda for women-ie- getting rid of Roe v Wade.

They were saying that people like this will come around, it's only been 1 week and the grieving process takes time.

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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 01:51 PM
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21. Andrea Mitchell was talking about this with some women from different pro-woman groups like Angie's
list....

and the reps from these women's groups were saying that they have only begun to get the message out
about McCain's agenda for women-ie- getting rid of Roe v Wade.

They were saying that people like this will come around, it's only been 1 week and the grieving process takes time.

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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 01:56 PM
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23. She's receiving entreaties from Obama & McCain, but noticeably NOT Hillary
Doubtless, just an oversight by HRC? HRC did promise she would work her heart out for Obama, right? This friend of HRC married well; she has an English title and her (third) husband just sold their share of the Rothschild banking interest for $600 million. The Rothschilds are also tight buddies with Tony and Cherie Blair. I don't think she's on Bill's enemies list. Why hasn't HRC influenced her to support Obama?
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 02:00 PM
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24. Kick. her. off. n/t
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Phred42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 02:01 PM
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26. Another Reich-wingnut cranking out BS from the Heritage Foundation Boilerroom
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workinclasszero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 02:02 PM
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27. “I love my country more than I love my party,” said Ms. de Rothschild
Right out of Pills Limpballs playbook!

And this person sits on the Democratic national convention's platform committee!? :wtf::mad:

GTFO of the party NOW you right wing fascist traitor!!:nuke:
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 03:45 PM
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40. Which country?
Edited on Fri Jun-13-08 03:45 PM by dailykoff
:shrug:
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INdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 02:07 PM
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28. She's not a real Democrat..She goes with who's gonna butter her bread for her
and she sounds more like a Republican.......I dont want her in the party...The Hell of it is there are a hell of a lot more of these
Ms. de Rothschilds out there that should be weeded out......Any one that would even consider voting for Mccain should be......well let me just stop there....fill in the blanks.
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MattBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 02:08 PM
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29. In other words; quid pro quo
She wants her dirty little palms greased.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 02:11 PM
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30. Bye!
Edited on Fri Jun-13-08 02:12 PM by DesertedRose
:hi: Please, go support McCain. PLEASE.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 02:12 PM
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31. But John McCain is trustworthy? I'm sick of fools like this
You can trust McCain. You can trust him to tell you to kiss his ass after he is elected.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 02:16 PM
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32. Should be ousted from the platform committee.
Since she doesn't seem to care about the supreme court. Since she doesn't seem to care if we keep our military overstressed and privatized to maintain even more bases in Iraq.
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seasat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 02:16 PM
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33. It's Obama's media reform policy
He supports net neutrality and has promised to promises to promote media diversity.

Encourage Diversity in Media Ownership: Barack Obama believes that the nation’s rules ensuring diversity of media ownership are critical to the public interest. Unfortunately, over the past several years, the Federal Communications Commission has promoted the concept of consolidation over diversity. Barack Obama believes that providing opportunities for minority-owned businesses to own radio and television stations is fundamental to creating the diverse media environment that federal law requires and the country deserves and demands. As president, he will encourage diversity in the ownership of broadcast media, promote the development of new media outlets for expression of diverse viewpoints, and clarify the public interest obligations of broadcasters who occupy the nation’s spectrum. An Obama presidency will promote greater coverage of local issues and better responsiveness by broadcasters to the communities they serve.


It's not some principled stand as a former Clinton supporter. She's putting her own business interests above what is best for the country.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 02:33 PM
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35. Throw her ass out, and don't look back.
You're done, lady. Take your money and your moronic husband, and go bed down with McCain.
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NatBurner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 03:14 PM
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37. don't let the doorknob hit u lynn-
on second thought...
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 03:27 PM
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38. When you money in this country you can be bat-shit crazy and
no one notices, cares, or can do anything about it.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 03:42 PM
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39. Yeap, let someone be a convient store worker or an office worker & that person would be arrested
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 03:58 PM
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42. This is a great sign! I'm glad she doesn't trust him.
If I had any power she shouldn't trust me either. I'd "redistribute" some of that cheese she inherited.
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