Elected DNC Clinton delegate to vote for McCain

[babylonsister]

Clinton delegate to vote for McCain


As an avid supporter of Hillary Rodham Clinton in the Democratic primaries, Debra Bartoshevich is not alone in her frustration over Clinton's defeat.

She's not alone in refusing to support Barack Obama.

And she's not entirely alone in saying she'll vote this fall for Republican John McCain instead.

But what makes her unusual is that she holds these views as an elected delegate to the Democratic National Convention in Denver this summer.

"I'm sure people are going to be upset with me. I don't want to lose my national delegate status," says Bartoshevich, a 41-year-old emergency room nurse who is a convention delegate, pledged to Clinton, from Waterford in Racine County.

Joe Wineke, the chairman of the Democratic Party of Wisconsin, reacted with disbelief when first told Friday afternoon that one of his state party delegates is now a McCain supporter.

"Not a delegate? To the national convention?" asked Wineke, who was getting ready for the start of the state party convention Friday in Stevens Point.

more...

http://www.jsonline.com/watch/?watch=1&date=6/13/2008&id=41516

[Doctor_J]

1. Make that "former delegate to the convention"

pull her pass and try to get her a ticket to the RNC in St. Paul.

[Barack_America]

22. Exactly. Somebody just lost her ticket to the party.

What a fool.

[Window]

43. She should definitely be stripped of that position and thrown out of the Democratic Party.

[ZinZen]

75. There is an article at

The Huffington Post that says the WI party voted to not seat her in Denver. She gets what she deserves.

[roguevalley]

64. she needs to be replaced. she's not following the rules and she

is a troll. who the hell is she going to vote for if she goes there? are they going to ask in the end, who votes for McCain? She is an ass.

[BelleCarolinaPeridot]

2. Then she should no longer register herself as a Democrat ...

Its like a gazelle voting for a lion.I just don't get these people at all.

[PoliticalAmazon]

81. Irony: The reason there are electoral college delegates is to ensure...

that the party Elites remain in control of the party, and the peeps like you and me have little chance to work against the Elites.

The delegates are chosen because they are party loyalists and Elite wanna-be's. Even if the voters choose a non-Elite, the delegate are available to overturn the voters' choice if necessary. This would cause party strife, but (in the mindset of the Elites) it would not be as bad as a non-Elite winning the presidential election.

This delegate no longer qualifies for delegate status. She is of no use to the Elites (unless the Elites are actually conspiring to keep Obama out of the Oval Office by stealth-supporting a fellow Elite, McCain, even if McCain is a Republican) because she is not a party loyalist.

For a further discussion of the Elites' choke-hold on America, read "The Irony of Democracy" by Dye and Ziegler. It was assigned reading in a political science critical-thinking college course. It was a red-pill/blue-pill experience, and it totally changed how I viewed the political big picture.

[bigdarryl]

3. This MOTHERFUCKER!!!! is no true democrat if she voting for PAPA

NO WAY!!!!

[redqueen]

4. In TX if you want to apply to be a delegate at the nat'l convention

you have to sign an affedavit saying you will support the nominee.

This is bullshit, she should lose her credentials and the alternate should go in her dumbass place.

[Bicoastal]

More from the "It's not about issues--it's all about meeeeeeee" fringe.

[TwilightGardener]

5. OK, she's not a delegate anymore. It's that easy. See ya, toots.

[democrattotheend]

18. The article said she's still a delegate

I don't know if there is any process to remove such a person, but there should be.

[BeyondGeography]

6. LOL...have a nice convention, Debster

By then end of that week, she'll regret she ever went public.

[Ichingcarpenter]

7. I just sent this to Howard Dean's office....... Disgusting

I hope others will do the same.

nominated and kicked.

[Me.]

20. Do You Have An Address

or did you go through the website?

[Ichingcarpenter]

31. This is the one I have and use

http://www.democrats.org/page/petition/chairman

[southern_belle]

28. Yes, I forwarded it to the DNC. What email do you have

for Howard Dean's office?

[Ichingcarpenter]

30. I think the same one .... here is the link

http://www.democrats.org/page/petition/chairman

[Vinca]

8. She's an emergency room nurse and she wants to vote for McBush.

Right. Apparently she enjoys watching people die from lack of healthcare.

[beac]

36. That she works in health care makes it ESPECIALLY sickening!

I hope Hillary treats her to a personalized SNAP OUT OF IT! a la "Moonstruck"!

[NoFederales]

9. She is delusional, not avid. What a loss. nt

NoFederales

[jgraz]

10. It's just sad to see all of these so-called feminists fall into such stereotypical roles

Someone really needs to give this woman a crash-course in being an adult.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

11. No she did not quote Susan B. Anthony!!

Sorry to tell you, Debra, but no feminist casts a vote for an anti-choice knuckledragger who calls women c**ts.

[jgraz]

13. She's not a feminist -- she's a whiney little 5-year-old

And a dumbfuck.

[Diamonique]

27. One of her excuses:

"I just feel you need to have somebody who has experience with foreign matters."

When are people going to wake up to the fact that McCain's only experience with foreign matters is dropping bombs and being a captive? That kind of experience doesn't give you any creds for leadership and decision-making.

[babylonsister]

42. You said it; that perception needs to be fought. nt

[Cha]

61. She sounds as ignorant as

elizabeth hasselbeck..and I'd feel sorry for them but it's our country they're messin' with.

[TheDonkey]

12. it's fine if she wants to vote McSame, let the bitterness overwhelm her senses

but her part as elected delegate at the convention should be pulled. I thought all delegates had to pledge to support the democratic nominee. No legal action can be taken but if she wants to make the news by airing her whiney bitter ranting she should have her status revoked.

[democrattotheend]

14. We need to apply the "Zell Miller Rule" to elected delegates

Seriously. After seeing the way the "Clinton supporters" behaved at the RBC meeting (I am putting the term in quotes because I think half of them were Republicans there to cause trouble), I am really worried about Clinton delegates disrupting the convention. I don't think this is what Senator Clinton wants and I don't think it's the majority of her supporters by any means, but I would not be surprised if some of the more militant Obama-hating Clinton supporters are the ones who were elected as delegates. All it takes is one loudmouth to ruin Obama's speech and make the headline about disunity.

[frogcycle]

15. unbe-damned-lievable

I just cannot grasp that there are otherwise seemingly sentient beings who are so myopic as to think voting for the right wing's puppet is an appropriate alternative to ANY democrat. I don't care HOW pissed off you are about HRC not getting it, this is like ... damn, I can't THINK of a good analogy! We are at extreme risk of seeing the demise of the United States of America if the cabal now in power stays - and they will probably find a way to even if they lose the election - but at the VERY least we need to have an overwhelming Dem victory in Nov. to try to make stealing the election or suspending the Constitution harder.

[Name removed]

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[southern_belle]

16. Don't let the door hit you in the ass, Debra.

:rant:

[Me.]

17. Enough Already With These People

And she doesn't want to lose her status why? The convention she should be attending is in Minn. Further, I think any so called dem who is an elected position, or a delegate, who cannot support our nominee shouldn't have access to any party funds or support. Lets seee how the knuckleheads like the ones in Tennessee and Florida like that.

[PatGund]

53. If she said she would support McCain publically....

Then she should automatically lose her status. Period, end of sentance. I'm sure there's a couple backup Clinton delegates in that state that could take her place.

[SeattleGirl]

19. Then strip her of her delegate status.

If she's going to vote for McSame, she's no Democrat.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

24. Oh but she wants to go. I say let her keep it. I'm a delegate too and I'd LOVE to see her there

Shouldn't be too hard to pick her out since she'll be wearing the McCain button.

[gateley]

21. This is disappointing --

This statement carries no weight:

"No self-respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party that ignores her - that's by Susan B. Anthony," said Bartoshevich, referring to the famous suffragist.

She must know that it's the REPUBLICAN party who ignores the rights of women. If they're not ignoring the subject, they're working to strip rights away.

A true Democrat wouldn't vote for McCain. And the reason of apprehension about Obama's lack of experience is lame. It's just a talking point.

I'm of the mind that most of the "true Democrats" who will vote for McCain have a darker, unmentionable reason why they won't vote for Obama, and I'm not sure they even acknowledge that reason to themselves.

[axollot]

56. I think his lack of experience is a PLUS - he's not already .....

....bought and paid for in the world of politics. I mean look at McSame/lame (whatever), only 8 years ago he was still a half decent fighter, against Bush policies etc.

His overwhelming blindness to get behind the desk in the oval office had him change everything he stood for, which isn't saying much for a member of the GOP, but at least he *DID* stand for something once. Now, he needs to retire and get the FUCK over not playing president.


:puke:

Cheers
Sandy

[Ken Burch]

23. They will strip her of her delegate status over that, won't they?

Mind you, we are the party where you don't get kicked out if you lose the primary and then run against the DEMOCRATIC candidate as an independent:



Or even if you give the keynote speech at the OTHER party's national convention:



(sorry for any retinal damage caused by the above images, btw).

[polmaven]

25. I could not agree more!

Her State Party should really yank her credentials. She should not be allowed into the DEMOCRATIC convention!

[elizm]

26. How do idiots become delegates??? nt

[mythyc]

29. * * * * * CONTACT THE WI DEMOCRATIC PARTY RIGHT NOW: Demand a reply * * * * Here's the emails etc:

PLEASE REPLY TO THIS POST IF YOU HAVE CONTACTED ANYONE IN THE WISCONSIN DEMOCRATIC PARTY

............................................

We need to flood the Wisconsin Democratic Party with emails RIGHT NOW and tell them that it is absolutely not acceptable for one of their pledged delegates to endorse the Republican candidate. A swift message needs to be sent to the party, to the delegates, and to anyone in the media who might pick up this story that the Democratic Party will not allow one of its members to declare support for the opposition.

I've compiled all the contact information, both emails and phone numbers. Write your own email so that they know they're hearing from separate voices.

If you know anyone in Wisconsin, urge them doubly so to do this.

........................................................

Make sure you include the link to the original article stating that Debra Bartoshevich, Pledged WI delegate to the Democratic National Convention, has declared she will vote for McCain:
http://www.jsonline.com/watch/?watch=1&date=6/13/2008&id=41516

........................................................

Wisconsin Democratic Party

General email: [e-mail]

Phone number: [phone]
[phone] (fax)


WI Democratic Party Staff
*
Joe Wineke
State Chair and National Committee Member
[e-mail]
[phone] (office)
[phone] (fax)
*
Lena Taylor
National Committee Member and 1st Vice Chair
[e-mail]
[phone] (office)
[phone] (fax)
*
Jef Hall
2nd Vice Chair
[e-mail]
http://jefhall.com
*
Michael Childers
Treasurer
[e-mail]
608-576-8426 (office)
*
Angela sutkiewicz
Secretary
[e-mail]
[phone] (office)
*
Ray Rivera
1st Congressional District Chair
[e-mail]
*
Mike Nemeth
1st Congressional District Representative
[e-mail]
*
Peter Rickman
2nd Congressional District Chair
[e-mail]
*
Heather Colburn
2nd Congressional District Representative
[e-mail]
*
Melanie Franklin
3rd Congressional District Chair
[e-mail]
[phone] (office)
*
Bob Johnson
3rd Congressional District Representative
[e-mail]
[phone] (office)
*
Stephanie Findley
4th Congressional District Chair
[e-mail]
414-750-6496 (office)
*
Milton Bond
4th Congressional District Representative
[e-mail]
*
Les Nakamoto
5th Congressional District Chair
[e-mail]
*
Chris Marshall
5th Congressional District Representative
[e-mail]
[phone] (office)
*
Gordon Hintz
6th Congressional District Chair
[e-mail]
*
Jan Banicki
6th Congressional District Representative
[e-mail]
[phone] (office)
*
Dave Wille
7th Congressional District Chair
[e-mail]
*
Gary HAWLEY
7th Congressional District Representative
[e-mail]
*
Dottie Leclair
8th Congressional District Representative
[e-mail]
*
Awais Khaleel
National Committee Member
[e-mail]
*
Jason Rae
National Committee Member
[e-mail]
*
Melissa Schroeder
National Committee Member
[e-mail]
[phone] (office)
*
Tim Sullivan
National Committee Member
[e-mail]
[phone] (office)
*
Paula Zellner
National Committee Member
[phone] (office)
*
Gwen Carr
Member At Large
[e-mail]
*
Spencer Coggs
Member At Large
[e-mail]
*
Linda Honold
Member At Large
[e-mail]
*
Robert Miranda
Member At Large
[e-mail]
*
Dian Palmer
Member At Large
[e-mail]
[phone] (office)
*
Martha Love
Milwaukee County Chair
[e-mail]
[phone] (office)
*
Chris Harroun
College Democrats Representative
[e-mail]

..................................................................................................

The emails above in one list, if you want to send a group email (minus the Wisconsin party address; email them separately):

[e-mail], [e-mail], http://jefhall.com, [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail]

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[thoughtcrime1984]

32. Hey Debra

You're an infant, and a stupid one at that. What a disgrace to my state. I hope you are either stripped of your delegate status, or treated like the traitor you are at the National Convention.

[Phred42]

33. This idiot was never a Democrat - she was either

a republican in the weeds or a simple minded Cult member.

There is no such thing as a Reagan-Democrat or, a McCain-Democrat.


Stop worrying about these R-Idiots. Obama is getting so many people to register that these poor souls are irrelevant.

[Thrill]

34. Fuck idiots like this. She'll have suffer in the same country as everyone else with McCain as Pres

She can blame herself

[Zachstar]

35. She is no Clinton Supporter when she selectively ignores Clintons plea to support Obama.

[TexasObserver]

37. A closet Republican outs herself. Good riddance to her.

[bluestateguy]

38. Vote her out of her delegate status immediately

Give her slot to another Hillary delegate if need be, but this is inexcusable.

[SoCalDem]

39. Something tells me she won't be welcome there at ALL..

There's ONE hotel room freed up :)

[DFW]

40. I sent this to Howard's personal email

And also to that of the DNC Treasurer.

I don't know if anything can be done about it, but they'll know about it.

[Bleacher Creature]

41. "I just feel you need to have somebody who has experience with foreign matters."

What good does experience count when you have experience being WRONG every step of the way?

[BlueStateGirl]

44. She cannot support McCain and be a Democrat. She loses her status. Simple

as that.

[otohara]

45. Let's Send Her Some Scissors

so she can cut off her nose.

[MaineDem]

46. From the Wisconsin Delegate Selection Plan:

In electing and certifying delegates and alternates to the 2008 Democratic National Convention,
Wisconsin thereby undertakes to assure all Democratic voters in the state full, timely and equal
opportunity to participate in the delegate selection process and in all Party affairs and to
implement affirmative action programs toward that end, and that the delegates and alternates
to the Convention shall be selected in accordance with the Delegate Selection Rules for the
2008 Democratic National Convention, and that the voters in the state will have the opportunity
to cast their election ballots for the Presidential and Vice Presidential nominees selected by said
Convention, and for electors pledged formally and in good conscience to the election of these
Presidential and Vice Presidential nominees, under the label and designation of the Democratic
Party of the United States, and that the delegates certified will not publicly support or campaign
for any candidate for President or Vice President other than the nominees for the Democratic
National Convention. (Call, II.B.)

I think this woman can cancel her reservations in Denver.

[Ichingcarpenter]

47. Send an email with that and the news story

I already sent mine with the story but wished I had added that.

[PBS Poll-435]

49. So technically....

She can kiss McCain's ass right up to the actually nominating vote.

And then she has to shut-up, right?

[Ichingcarpenter]

50. Wrong

She may make no public statements other than for the democratic nominees

She just made a public statement.

[PBS Poll-435]

52. Even though we don't have a "nominee"

at this point.

She is still fucked because she talked of her support for McCain.

Right?

[Ken Burch]

60. Nobody would be calling for her to lose her spot for staying loyal to HRC

But endorsing the OTHER party's nominee is unacceptable.

(and please, tell me you aren't STILL refusing to accept that we're going to nominate Obama. That race is over and you have to move on.)

[anonymous171]

62. Correct. That's the problem. The message is clear: Democrats vote for the democratic nominee.

Any democrat who doesn't is not a democrat and cannot be allowed a seat at the convention.

[babylonsister]

63. What alternate universe are you living in? nt

[PBS Poll-435]

66. Nominees receive that designation at the Convention.

He is the "presumptive Nominee" at this point.

The rules say "nominee."

[Ken Burch]

69. There's no good reason to make that distinction.

Why can't you let it go already? Obama won fair and square.

[PBS Poll-435]

71. I have "let go." I am on board

I already have my first fundraiser scheduled.

My point was strictly about the interpretation of the rules.

[Ken Burch]

72. It's still against the rules for a convention delegate to endorse the OTHER party's candidate

I am glad you have your first fundraiser scheduled.

[LiberalAndProud]

78. One could safely assume that McCain will not be the

Democratic nominee. She is not supporting Democratic nominees when she advocates voting for McCain. By the rules, she should no longer be a delegate, no matter how broad the interpretation.

[Ken Burch]

65. What is your point?

You know Obama is the legitimately chosen nominee. Why are you trying to stir shit up?

[PBS Poll-435]

67. Excuse Me? WTF

Your attack is far more offensive than me asking a question.

He is the "presumptive nominee." He will become the "nominee" at the convention

The Wisconsin rules say "nominee."

[Ken Burch]

68. You're saying that like it's still legitimate to try to stop him being nominated.

What's your deal? If you still like HRC, fine, but you know perfectly well that it's over.

There's no reason for you to be defending this delegate. Nothing that could possibly have happened to HRC could justify a convention delegate announcing her support for the REPUBLICAN candidate.

You have got to accept that Obama won fair and square and that bashing the guy isn't cool anymore.

[PBS Poll-435]

70. Once again

I was not defending anyone.

Someone posted an excerpt from the WI Democratic Delegate Selection rules.

This has nothing to do with Hillary or even Obama.

It has to do with the rules.

[Ken Burch]

73. It sounds, maybe I'm wrong about this, but it sounded like you were hairsplitting

on behalf of this delegate. Why should she be cut any slack about endorsing the OTHER party's candidate? If you are a delegate to the Democratic National Convention, it's not cool to publicly endorse the Republican ticket.

[cali]

48. kick the fucking asshole out of the convention. And fuck her.

[Cha]

51. I see it's all about her and

her hurt feelings..not about the Environment, Women's Choice, Better Health Care, Veterans, Less Killing of our Soldiers for OIL, Education, ad infinitum..just about more greed for the corporate power.

Thanks, nurse..what a poor loser.

[mythyc]

55. Here she is in a picture, in the middle, and check out this vitriolic editorial she wrote:

the editorial is on Taylor Marsh's site no less :puke:

http://www.taylormarsh.com/archives_view.php?id=27735

here's some choice snips:


Those who are responsible for putting Democrats in the broken place we are in right now with regard to Barack Obama had better own it to the end. Leave those bumper stickers on and wear those campaign pins until the bitter end folks because YOU OWN IT. And people are going to want to know whose to blame.

And as for the superdelegates, just an FYI, we have the list with your names, you will be held accountable on Election Day and beyond, too. This time around, everybody's going to be looking for accountability.

...

Will those superdelegates admit bad judgment in voting for the candidate that "said" he had good judgment but turned out to have bad judgment once he was aptly defined by the likes of Karl Rove? Because as of May 14, 2008, Barack Obama has yet to successfully define himself to the American people -- he is too busy defining John McCain. (Scary thought: maybe Obama hasn't defined himself yet because he can't. Look at his record. Look at what his colleagues say about him. He rides the middle. He goes this way and that. On the one hand. On the other hand. He himself in his autobiographies even admits to having trouble pinning down his identities -- whether that be individual, political, racial or whatever else.)

...

Will it be the economy? Given Obama's lackluster appeal to the lower-income and working class, I sure hope not. I can see the commercials now--it will not take a lot of effort to get the disenfranchised lunch-pail liberals to identify with a hard-worker like John McCain as compared to the elitist, Starbuck-drinking, RedBull swilling, arugula-eating, Blackberry-carrying Obama.

...

Remember: John McCain is a veteran. John McCain is a former POW. John McCain is a war hero. Moreover, one of John McCain's sons is currently serving in Iraq. So, if anyone thinks McCain is going to mistreat or misuse our troops -- which include his son, they need to think again. Frankly, Obama will look like a fool against McCain because once again, McCain has his real record, history, and even his family to prove his sound leadership and true patriotism. And Obama merely has his words, hope and the video of his wife sounding unpatriotic which will be used over and over and over again.

what a piece of shit hit job. I feel like i have to go wash my eyes after reading that...

[blueracine]

74. Correction to your picture

She is not in the middle, she is on the right in the black. I know both of those women personally.

And, she did not write that editorial. I think that there is enough shit out here online that it is important to keep the facts very clear on all subjects. That editorial was written by a 911 widow, Kristen Breitweiser.


Deb has never done interviews like this before and I think a lot of you missed the whole part about her sister, the Iraq veteran-right wing republican who was pushing her hard to do this, being the person who actually set up the Lieberman headed sub-unit of the McCain camp contacting Deb in the first place.

I can say that she did not know the DNC rules, but McCain's people certainly did, and she was manipulated to say the least. Had she known that she could have remained a delegate, vote for Hillary in the first round and then either vote for her again or abstain in the second and then state that she would write her in in Nov. this would all be a non-issue. She could have even endorsed McCain after the convention--but the GOP made sure she didn't have any of that information before they started contacting her.

Shame the DNC doesn't bother actually contacting the delegates to explain the rules to them. Of course our rules are so clear the DNC committee spent a long day on FLA and MI...............

[TBF]

76. You are blaming the DNC because the delegate doesn't know the rules?

The delegate needs to take responsibility for her own actions. Did she not suspect shenanigans when she was contacted by "McCain's People"? I know you feel bad for your friend and want to defend her, but this really is ridiculous. How bright do you have to be to understand that if you're a delegate for the DNC you probably should not be out endorsing Republicans? And why in the hell would you want to be endorsing Republicans if you are a delegate for the DNC? Unbelieveable.

[TahitiNut]

77. It's not about her GE vote. That's secret. It's about her CAMPAIGNING for McCain, now.

That in itself is a fraudulent stance - a failure of integrity - since partisan primary campaigns are all about accepting the candidacy of the one who prevails in that process. That's the "go-in" agreement any 'official' party member accepts at the outset. But she didn't only fail in that regard, she went so far as to become a part of the McCain campaign with her public stance. People with that kind of integrity problem probably belong in the GOP.

[merh]

83. LOL - if you think she is responsible enough to be a delegate

don't you think that she should be responsible enough to KNOW THE RULES?

I'm not a delegate, not involved in the process whatsoever and even I KNOW that if you endorse, support, back the RNC candidate you violate the rules and harm your position as a delegate. That is not rocket science, that is plain old fashion common sense.

[madfloridian]

84. I see so many excuses for her in your post. That's a shame.

You seem to blame the party instead of her because she did not know the rules.

You seem to think it is ok for her to manipulate the party and hurt the candidate because she was confused about rules.

[sampsonblk]

She is just plain stupid. Look at her idiotic reasoning! - nt

[Raine]

57. So I guess Hillary being called a b*tch

and McCain laughing about it is OK with her. :wtf:

[sniffa]

58. The Zell rule was created for people like her

She'll go the way of Joementum.

[Undercurrent]

59. I sent emails to all the addresses in this thread.

And included the info posted here too. I sure wish I had the disgusting editorial this dumber than a slug, pos wrote at the time I sent them off.

Hope a LOT of folks email. This can NOT stand! This "person" should NEVER be connected to the Democratic party. In any way whatsoever ... ever!

She can crawl in bed with Lieberman and Zel Miller, and wallow in the slime.

:puke:

:puke:

:puke:

[Kerrytravelers]

79. I sent an email (thanks to the email info from post #29!) and here is the response I received:

Dear kerrytravelers

The news of Ms. Bartoshevich's actions broke during our DPW State convention. The officers and delegates responded immediately upon our notification.

There was a resolution submitted at the Democratic Party of Wisconsin's State Convention this weekend, to request that the DNC strip her of her delegate status and be barred from the Democratic National Convention. It was passed at the State Convention unanimously.



All delegates are required to sign a statement of intent form which states that they support Democratic candidates. In addition, our State Delegate Selection Plan states that certified delegates "will not publicly support or campaign for any candidate for President or Vice President other than the nominees for the Democratic National Convention. (Call, II.B.) (Page 20 of the plan).



There is precedent to strip her of her delegate status, given that Senator Joe Lieberman endorsed John McCain, and lost his super delegate status with the Democratic Party. He is now an Independent.



We are awaiting word from the DNC on a ruling.



Thank you for your concern.



Les Nakamoto

Chair 5th CD DPW, Administrative Committee Member representing the 5th CD

[Overseas]

85. Glad to hear it !

[Beacool]

80. The "new" DNC reminds me of Shrub:

If you are not with us, you are against us.

Look how well that turned out.....

Ain't unity grand?

:eyes:

[merh]

86. Well, duh, that makes sense don't you think.

You either are a democratic party member and support democratic candidates or you don't. Afer all, it is the Democratic National Convention.

[berni_mccoy]

82. Revoke her Status.