*****Call to action! CONTACT THE WI DEM PARTY RIGHT NOW: Demand a reply * * * * Here's the emails:

[mythyc]

I'm reposting this as its own thread because it's essential that as many of us members of the Democratic Underground address this situation immediately.

A pledged delegate for Hillary Clinton has publicly announced that she will be voting for McCain. Any delegate who declares his or her support to the Republican
party deserved to be stripped of delegate status immediately. Contact the Wisconsin Democratic party and make your voice heard. Pass it on if you can, and make sure
you include the link to the article where she makes these intentions known: http://www.jsonline.com/watch/?watch=1&date=6/13/2008&id=41516 (repeated below for emphasis)

Here's the original thread, posted by babylonsister:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6359166&mesg_id=6359166

Clinton delegate to vote for McCain


As an avid supporter of Hillary Rodham Clinton in the Democratic primaries, Debra Bartoshevich is not alone in her frustration over Clinton's defeat.

She's not alone in refusing to support Barack Obama.

And she's not entirely alone in saying she'll vote this fall for Republican John McCain instead.

But what makes her unusual is that she holds these views as an elected delegate to the Democratic National Convention in Denver this summer.

"I'm sure people are going to be upset with me. I don't want to lose my national delegate status," says Bartoshevich, a 41-year-old emergency room nurse who is a convention delegate, pledged to Clinton, from Waterford in Racine County.

Joe Wineke, the chairman of the Democratic Party of Wisconsin, reacted with disbelief when first told Friday afternoon that one of his state party delegates is now a McCain supporter.

"Not a delegate? To the national convention?" asked Wineke, who was getting ready for the start of the state party convention Friday in Stevens Point.

more...

http://www.jsonline.com/watch/?watch=1&date=6/13/2008&id=41516

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PLEASE REPLY TO THIS POST IF YOU HAVE CONTACTED ANYONE IN THE WISCONSIN DEMOCRATIC PARTY

............................................

We need to flood the Wisconsin Democratic Party with emails RIGHT NOW and tell them that it is absolutely not acceptable for one of their pledged delegates to endorse the Republican candidate. A swift message needs to be sent to the party, to the delegates, and to anyone in the media who might pick up this story that the Democratic Party will not allow one of its members to declare support for the opposition.

I've compiled all the contact information, both emails and phone numbers. Write your own email so that they know they're hearing from separate voices.

If you know anyone in Wisconsin, urge them doubly so to do this.

........................................................

Make sure you include the link to the original article stating that Debra Bartoshevich, Pledged WI delegate to the Democratic National Convention, has declared she will vote for McCain:
http://www.jsonline.com/watch/?watch=1&date=6/13/2008&id=41516

Also add this, from the Wisconsin Delegate Selection Plan:

In electing and certifying delegates and alternates to the 2008 Democratic National Convention,
Wisconsin thereby undertakes to assure all Democratic voters in the state full, timely and equal
opportunity to participate in the delegate selection process and in all Party affairs and to
implement affirmative action programs toward that end, and that the delegates and alternates
to the Convention shall be selected in accordance with the Delegate Selection Rules for the
2008 Democratic National Convention, and that the voters in the state will have the opportunity
to cast their election ballots for the Presidential and Vice Presidential nominees selected by said
Convention, and for electors pledged formally and in good conscience to the election of these
Presidential and Vice Presidential nominees, under the label and designation of the Democratic
Party of the United States, and that the delegates certified will not publicly support or campaign
for any candidate for President or Vice President other than the nominees for the Democratic
National Convention. (Call, II.B.)

and this:

Party Leaders & Elected Officials (PLEO) Delegates: Delegates Democrats eligible for PLEO delegates are big city mayors, statewide elected officials, state legislative leaders, state legislators, and other state, county and local elected officials and party leaders. Candidates for these positions must file a written statement of candidacy and a signed pledge of support for their presidential candidate. These delegates are allocated to presidential candidates based on the statewide results of the presidential primary or caucus.


http://www.prideintheparty.org/pdf/WI.pdf

........................................................

Howard Dean's Email: http://www.democrats.org/page/petition/chairman

Wisconsin Democratic Party

General email: [e-mail]

Phone number: [phone]
[phone] (fax)


WI Democratic Party Staff
*
Joe Wineke
State Chair and National Committee Member
[e-mail]
[phone] (office)
[phone] (fax)
*
Jef Hall
2nd Vice Chair
[e-mail]
http://jefhall.com
*
Michael Childers
Treasurer
[e-mail]
608-576-8426 (office)
*
Angela sutkiewicz
Secretary
[e-mail]
[phone] (office)
*
Ray Rivera
1st Congressional District Chair
[e-mail]
*
Mike Nemeth
1st Congressional District Representative
[e-mail]
*
Peter Rickman
2nd Congressional District Chair
[e-mail]
*
Heather Colburn
2nd Congressional District Representative
[e-mail]
*
Melanie Franklin
3rd Congressional District Chair
[e-mail]
[phone] (office)
*
Bob Johnson
3rd Congressional District Representative
[e-mail]
[phone] (office)
*
Stephanie Findley
4th Congressional District Chair
[e-mail]
414-750-6496 (office)
*
Milton Bond
4th Congressional District Representative
[e-mail]
*
Les Nakamoto
5th Congressional District Chair
[e-mail]
*
Chris Marshall
5th Congressional District Representative
[e-mail]
[phone] (office)
*
Gordon Hintz
6th Congressional District Chair
[e-mail]
*
Jan Banicki
6th Congressional District Representative
[e-mail]
[phone] (office)
*
Dave Wille
7th Congressional District Chair
[e-mail]
*
Gary HAWLEY
7th Congressional District Representative
[e-mail]
*
Dottie Leclair
8th Congressional District Representative
[e-mail]
*
Awais Khaleel
National Committee Member
[e-mail]
*
Jason Rae
National Committee Member
[e-mail]
*
Melissa Schroeder
National Committee Member
[e-mail]
[phone] (office)
*
Tim Sullivan
National Committee Member
[e-mail]
[phone] (office)
*
Paula Zellner
National Committee Member
[phone] (office)
*
Gwen Carr
Member At Large
[e-mail]
*
Spencer Coggs
Member At Large
[e-mail]
*
Linda Honold
Member At Large
[e-mail]
*
Robert Miranda
Member At Large
[e-mail]
*
Dian Palmer
Member At Large
[e-mail]
[phone] (office)
*
Martha Love
Milwaukee County Chair
[e-mail]
[phone] (office)
*
Chris Harroun
College Democrats Representative
[e-mail]

..................................................................................................

For easy cut and paste, here are the emails above in one list, if you want to send a group email (minus the Wisconsin party address; email them separately):

[e-mail],[e-mail],[e-mail],[e-mail],[e-mail],[e-mail],
[e-mail],[e-mail],[e-mail],[e-mail],[e-mail],[e-mail],[e-mail],
[e-mail],[e-mail],[e-mail],[e-mail],[e-mail],[e-mail],[e-mail],
[e-mail],[e-mail],[e-mail],[e-mail],[e-mail],[e-mail],[e-mail],
[e-mail],[e-mail]

and here are the county party leaders (not listed above):
[e-mail],[e-mail],[e-mail],[e-mail],[e-mail],[e-mail],[e-mail],[e-mail],[e-mail],
[e-mail],[e-mail],[e-mail],[e-mail]
..................................................................................................

[rucky]

1. Don't they have alternates?

I find it hard to believe we'd actually send her to our convention.

[mythyc]

3. She's said she's planned on voting for HRC at the convention, but then for McCain in November

Which means she could be trying to get away with it.

Also, I don't want to take any chances. The Wisconsin Chair of the Party expressed shock and disbelief when interviewed, but indicated nothing about censuring her; the article also doesn't say anything about actions against her, so I believe it's essential that as many of us as possible act on this. Fox or any of the other M$M outlets will have a field day with this, especially if they get her on air saying this while she is still an official pledged delegate....

[dansolo]

25. And you know the media will seek her out at the convention

And most likely she will oblige them. The last thing that we want at the convention is interviews with delegates who are endorsing McCain. She should be booted as a delegate.

[LiberalFighter]

64. All the Wisconsin local delegates and her fellow national delegates should demand her removal.

As far as those that do not live in Wisconsin I think it would be wise to let them sort it out for themselves.

Just give them time to put all the necessary pieces together to make it happen.

[undeterred]

2. The state convention is going on right now

in Stevens Point, WI. If she's there, I'm sure there will be plenty of people in her face.

[redqueen]

4. I certainly hope so. (nt)

[LiberalFighter]

65. How can she be a national delegate already if the convention is going on now?

Don't they vote on their National delegates at the convention?

[Ichingcarpenter]

5. Please add this section of the Law to include in your e-mail

In electing and certifying delegates and alternates to the 2008 Democratic National Convention,
Wisconsin thereby undertakes to assure all Democratic voters in the state full, timely and equal
opportunity to participate in the delegate selection process and in all Party affairs and to
implement affirmative action programs toward that end, and that the delegates and alternates
to the Convention shall be selected in accordance with the Delegate Selection Rules for the
2008 Democratic National Convention,

and that the voters in the state will have the opportunity
to cast their election ballots for the Presidential and Vice Presidential nominees selected by said
Convention, and for electors pledged formally and in good conscience to the election of these
Presidential and Vice Presidential nominees, under the label and designation of the Democratic
Party of the United States, and that the delegates certified will not publicly support or campaign
for any candidate for President or Vice President other than the nominees for the Democratic
National Convention. (Call, II.B.)

[mythyc]

7. I added that in the body of the original post. thanks IC !!

:dem:

[LiberalFighter]

66. Point of information. It is not a law but a Party Rule.

[zulchzulu]

6. I left a message with Joe Wineke

This is going to be funny.

[undeterred]

12. Joe will get in her face and scream if he has the chance.

He does that when he disagrees with someone.

http://www.jsonline.com/watch/?watch=1&date=6/13/2008&id=41516

[TexasObserver]

8. I appreciate your point of view, but they're going to boot her ass, pronto!

It won't take a word from any of us. The party is already moving quickly to remove this cancer from any connection to the party. She will not be a delegate. She's breached her oath to be loyal to the party's nominee, so she's OUT.

[mythyc]

9. My point of view is that they should boot her ass!

check my new post below for more....

[mythyc]

10. I already got a reply from one of the WI party officials via Blackberry! here it is:

This is from Heather Colburn, the 2nd Congressional District Representative for Wisconsin:

Re: Wisconsin Pledged Delegate Concern‏
From: Heather Colburn ([e-mail])
Sent: Fri 6/13/08 3:42 PM
Reply-to: [e-mail]
To: Jude Morris ([e-mail])

It is my current understanding that delegates cannot be stripped of this status once they are elected.

I am looking into this now

Heather Colburn

[undeterred]

11. Tammy Baldwin is the Congresswoman for WI-2

and a Hillary delegate.

[mythyc]

This emails from Heather Colburn. who a delegate's pledged to is also a moot point here

because they all are obliged, through the state and national bylaws, to vote and support the party's nominee ....

[undeterred]

15. Right.

I was replying to "the 2nd Congressional District Representative" part. Heather is not an elected official.

[mythyc]

20. gotchya!

thanks for the clarification

[MagickMuffin]

WI: Summary of State Delegate Selection Plan

Party Leaders & Elected Officials (PLEO) Delegates
Delegates
Democrats eligible for PLEO delegates are big city mayors, statewide elected officials, state legislative leaders, state legislators, and other state, county and local elected
officials and party leaders. Candidates for these positions must file a written statement of candidacy and a signed pledge of support for their presidential candidate. These
delegates are allocated to presidential candidates based on the statewide results of the presidential primary or caucus.


http://www.prideintheparty.org/pdf/WI.pdf


It seems that WI Party's statement would contradict Debra Bartoshevich endorsing McCaineyBush.


Thanks for all the links. My post should be used in ALL correspondents with the WI Party.

[Phx_Dem]

16. Even if they can't strip her of her

delegate status this year, I think she can be assured of never being chosen as a delegate again. What an asshole.

[mythyc]

19. I added this to the original post. Thanks!

:dem:

[Ichingcarpenter]

13. Don't forget Howard Dean's email too

http://www.democrats.org/page/petition/chairman

[mythyc]

14. added, thanks!

:dem:

[Cha]

17. Thanks mythyc! Rec'd..get this on the front page!

People are going to be more than upset with Debra Bartoshevich..we're going to DO something about it!

:bounce: :kick: :patriot: :party:

She's thinking only of her little self..no big picture for the Environment, War on Iraq, Women's Choice, Health Care, Education, ect, ect, ect.

She's a very poor loser and needs to have her priveleges suspended.

[Ichingcarpenter]

18. Don't forget to nominate this thread and keep it kicked n/t

[PantalonesB]

21. She is online

At <a href="http://www.taylormarsh.com/archives_view.php?id=27735">Taylor Marsh</a> she posted under her own name.

I guess when she said she was voting because of <a href="http://www.journaltimes.com/articles/2008/05/05/local_news/doc481e8f5b068f6954805776.txt">healthcare</a> she was full of it.

[mythyc]

22. thanks for the link and welcome to DU!

:hi:

[undeterred]

23. She's being cheered on by clintondems

http://clintondems.com/2008/06/clinton-delegate-to-vote-for-mccain/

who are apparently not Democrats.

[mythyc]

24. dead link for me. is it working for others?

:shrug:

[Cha]

26. Dead for me

too.

[undeterred]

28. Weird.

I copied it correctly but it does not work in that post.

http://clintondems.com/2008/06/clinton-delegate-to-vote-for-mccain/

[tandot]

27. Yeah. We found the one Clinton supporter who'll vote for McBush. WRITE CONGRESS RIGHT F*CKING NOW

Her vote for Clinton prevents Obama's nomination how?

Mountain? Molehill?

There will be some people who claim to be Democrats who'll vote for McCain. However, they'll have no effect whatsoever. There will be plenty of moderate Republicans to vote for Obama. The republican party, of course, is very happy that some of you guys are helping in their effort to keep the division alive. Congrats.

Ms. Debra will feel very lonely very soon.

[undeterred]

29. Here are the Clinton Dems

http://clintondems.com/contact-us/

Proudly not supporting the nominee.

[tandot]

33. And you, of course, have proof that they are really Democrats or Clinton supporters?

Actually, the link you provided doesn't work.

Keep it alive, guys. Spread more of the divisive crap. Republicans will thank you.

As a former Clinton supporter, I fully support Obama. I'll spend my energy on having him elected in the GE. If you want to waste your energy with that sh*t, go ahead.

[undeterred]

35. Are there actually Clinton Dem impersonators?

[tandot]

39. Like, you mean, people who got encouragement from Rush Limbaugh to vote for Clinton?

Again, show me proof that this site wasn't created by right-wingers or at least being kept alive by them.

I don't take them serious. Sorry that you feel the need to put all of your energy in doing their job.

[undeterred]

41. And they even set up websites and apply to be Democratic delegates?

Wow, such devotion.

[tandot]

46. Go ahead and spend your whole evening harping about it.

I have better things to do. Have a great life.

[undeterred]

47. A great live?

:rofl:

[tandot]

50. Thanks for making me aware of the spelling error.

At least it gave you another very important thing to focus on...spelling

[Name removed]

56. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Two Americas]

58. good grief

Are you kidding?

You must have a pretty poor opinion of the party and the strength of the nominee if you think this is somehow some terribly damaging or dangerous thing.

One delegate said she is going to vote for McCain. The state party will handle this. It is not exactly cause for calling out the dogs and going into emergency mode. This betrays profound weakness, I think. Are we that fragile, vulnerable and fearful?

I find your posts much more damaging and worrisome then what the delegate said.

The party is full of people who are "traitors" to the principles and ideals of the party, but so long as they have a D after their name or sign the loyalty oath and say they will vote Democratic, there is little if any outrage. What a weak, shallow and superficial view of the party you must have. If we were as weak as you claim, one delegate making one remark would be the least of our worries.

I would suggest we don't throw this charge of "traitor" around, and that in general we stop emulating the right wingers with our methods and rhetoric.

[OzarkDem]

30. Highly inappropriate and vindictive

All politics is local. Let the WI Dem party deal with it in their own way.

Machine politics are unhealthy for grassroots Democratic organizations.

I've never seen these kinds of storm-trooper tactics in past Dem campaigns and I truly hope, for the good of the party, this kind of thing is nipped in the bud.

Personally, I would disown any Democrats who engage in these kinds of political "lynch mobs" and hope others do the same.

[Ichingcarpenter]

31. She's a traitor.........to women, the party and her country....

Buzz off, We know you agree with her.

[OzarkDem]

32. All politics is local

this kind of thing happens regularly. As a city leader I've had to deal with it too. The worst thing is to have outsiders trying to meddle in a situation they know nothing about. MYOB. Let people deal with it at their own level. Its none of your business.

[Ichingcarpenter]

34. This is a delegate to the National Convention.. Making National News

so if you read the pledge of the Wisconsin law she broke the rules.
She is also going against the wishes of Hillary Clinton.

It is my business and the business of Democratic Underground
I'd vote you out too "Ms. City Leader" if you did that
and even do a web campaign for that.

[OzarkDem]

36. Its still a local issue

and lynch mob tactics are not the Democratic Party way.

[Ichingcarpenter]

37. Its not a local issue anymore- thanks for kicking the thread though

and once more exposing your slanted take on reality.

[OzarkDem]

38. Some people only learn the hard way

Here's hoping you learn your lesson.

Again, Dems don't use lynch mob tactics against other Dems. You may be surprised when you find out how many others feel the same way.

[Ichingcarpenter]

42. Yeah, Vote for McCain.... We get your point! thanks for kicking the thread

So everyone can see it.

[OzarkDem]

43. I'll pray for you, too

So full of anger and hatred for others.

[Ichingcarpenter]

44. I see you've set aside this special time to humiliate yourself in public again

So spare me your condensing bullshit and false prayers to your God
But thanks for the kick!

[mythyc]

51. regular Ozark fare, anything to defend an HRC supporter---even the traitorous ones threatening to

threatening to vote Republican at the NATIONAL convention...

you're right though IC; the kicks are appreciated! ;)

:kick:

[40ozDonkey]

60. Good thing she's not a Democrat.

If she's voting for McCain in November then she's not a Democrat. If there are many others who "feel the same way", they need to be honest and re-register as Republicans.

Eight years of the worst president in modern history and some people want to reward Bush's party out of spite. Sickening.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

62. Just for clarification

This is what a lynching looks like:



So you might want to tone down the hyperbole just a teensy bit. This person is a member of the Democratic NATIONAL Committee and has publicly announced her intention to vote for the canidate of the other party. Any Democrat -- EVERY Democrat has an interest in making sure this person is stripped of her status within the party.

[iconicgnom]

49. BS. Debra Bartoshevich is a self-declared traitor to the party

A SD to the Dem primary convention, announcing she'll vote Republican, is not acting "locally" - and your defense of her and your condemnation of those who protest is anti-Democratic.

When people hear about traitors to the cause they've been elected to uphold like Debra Bartoshevich on boards like this, and organize to make it easier for people of like mind to protest, it is not "machine politics". It is grassroots activism and it's the healthiest thing people can do for a vibrant democracy.

Your reasoning is right out to lunch.

Do you also protest that Joe Lieberman was stripped of his SD status under what is informally known as the Zell Miller rule?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/07/lieberman-stripped-of-sup_n_85494.html

[Lone_Star_Dem]

40. I had some people attempting to become delegates who were suspect

I had a Clinton supporter attempting to be an Obama delegate just so she could not show up, or so she said to another potential delegate. I also had a person who was a known locally active Republican pretending to support Clinton. They had made a big deal of "infiltrating" our convention and altering the results to a friend of mine.

I encouraged people in both camps to choose someone with whom they were familiar with their political ideology. I impressed the dangers of seating someone who might not be sincere and the troubles that could create.

There is supposed to be a vetting among your peers before a pledged delegate is seated. Sadly, it would appear that vetting process was either ignored or wasn't as diligent as it should have been in this case.

[undeterred]

45. In some of our CDs there were not enough people

while in others (like mine) there were plenty who wanted to go but didn't get to. I'll have to ask about this one.

[LiberalFighter]

68. Any idea how many delegates alloted to the 1st district?

I believe Racine is in that district and wondering how many signed up to go as a Clinton delegate.

[LiberalFighter]

67. There is a triple vetting

The first is by the county chair. They have the right to refuse or challenge a person from being on the ballot as a state delegate. And they can fill open spots.

Another consists of the Obama and Clinton camps in each state vetting the delegates. They have the right to refuse or accept the national delegate petition.

And the congressional district delegates at the state convention voting for the national delegate. They are more likely to vote for those that they know.

[Undercurrent]

48. I am really pissed off about this!

I sent emails to all the addresses in from the other thread, and included the info posted there.: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6359166#6360120

There is a truly sickening editorial this creep wrote in that thread too, but I didn't have it when I fired off my emails.

This dumber than a slug idiot can wallow in the slime with Lieberman and Zel Miller. None of them are Democrats.

[bbgrunt]

52. she must be part of "operation chaos"--these people piss me off.

[PeaceNikki]

53. UPDATE: Democrats seek to unseat delegate

http://www.jsonline.com/watch/?watch=1&date=6/13/2008&id=41516

FRIDAY, June 13, 2008, 9:03 p.m.
By Steven Walters

Stevens Point - Wisconsin Democrats tonight asked national party leaders to not seat one of the state's delegates to the Denver national convention who backed Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.) for president, but who today she plans to vote for Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain.

"Democrats in the State of Wisconsin will never support somebody who supports John McCain," said state Democratic Party Chairman Joe Wineke, who asked the party's annual convention to adopt a resolution asking national party officials to not seat Debra Bartoshevich of Waterford, who had been a pledged Democratic convention delgate for Clinton.

Another pledged Clinton delegate, Paula Dorsey of Milwaukee, offered a resolution - which passed unanimously - asking that national leaders not allow Bartoshevich into the party's national event in August.

Dorsey said trying to expell her fellow Democrat from the party's convention "hurts my soul and it hurts my heart," but it is the party's presumptive nominee, Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), whom convention delegates must support.

State and national party rules say that anyone who won't support the party's presidential nominee is not qualified to serve as a delegate to the national convention, Wineke said.

If national party leaders agree, an at-large delegate will take Bartoshevich's place, a party official said.

--------------------

[Political Heretic]

54. Kudos to Paula Dorsey, Clinton Delegate!

For having the willingness to do the right thing and offer that resolution.

There's no place as a democratic party delegate for someone who not only won't support the democratic party nominee, but also announces intention to vote for the Republican nominee in the fall.

That should just be a no-brainer.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

63. Paula Dorsey - Democrat

nt

[mythyc]

55. That is GREAT! Thanks PeaceNikki for the update

Lightning quick response on the Wisconsin Democratic Party's side too. Anyone know when there'll be a ruling?

[AZBlue]

57. I haven't contacted anyone yet - do you think I still should or will it just be annoying now?

Thanks for the update!!

[PeaceNikki]

59. I'd say no... I think they've got it.

[LiberalFighter]

69. If you don't live in Wisconsin I wouldn't contact them about this.

[Ichingcarpenter]

61. "Resolution - which passed unanimously"- to unseat her

Bye bye Bartoshevich

[AZBlue]

74. That's fantastic!

:bounce:

[Ysabel]

72. thanks for the update peace nikki...

[LiberalFighter]

70. Does anyone know Bartoshevich's political involvement with the Democratic Party?

[tbyg52]

71. Done, and forwarded to my small email list. nt

[Ysabel]

73. p.s. and thank you mythyc for this thread and all those contact numbers...

edit: typo / 2 "y"s...