Bob Novak: Mccain said to very much want to tap Joe Lieberman as VP

[Politics_Guy25]

BUT...

He knows that he can't get away with it. Knows that he can't get away with Ridge either.

Should Mccain be down 15 points in late August, however, and in need of a dramatic move, I wouldn't want to rule out Lieberman or Ridge as a hail mary pass. More reason to dislike Joe.

Biden has shot to the top of Senator Obama's considerations apparently. Senator Biden is a tremendous senator and he'd be a great asset to our ticket.

Here's the link:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/political_commentary/commentary_by_robert_d_novak/biden_for_vp

MCCAIN'S NON-VPs

Sources close to Sen. John McCain say the Republican presidential candidate likes the idea of Democratic Sen. Joseph Lieberman, re-elected from Connecticut as an independent in 2006, or former Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Ridge -- if he could get away with it. The political consensus is that McCain couldn't get away with either, and he knows it.

Lieberman, one of McCain's closest Senate friends, vigorously supports him for president and sometimes joins him on the campaign trail. However, Lieberman opposes Republican policy on nearly everything except Iraq, where he has backed the war effort.

Ridge, who served as President Bush's secretary of homeland security, is a generally conservative Republican except for being pro-choice on abortion. He was considered for vice president in 1996 and 2000, but was ruled out both times because of the abortion issue.

[AlCzervik]

1. Novak, isn't he busy somewhere not casting a shadow?

[Politics_Guy25]

2. He's one of Washington's most well connected journalists

Always worth listening to even though he is on the fringe and he's great friends with people on our side like Mark Sheids, Al Hunt, Judy Woodruff, etc.

[CarbonDate]

32. I'm sure that he can....

...get a lot out of DC pols at night while hovering over their beds and entrancing them. Come to think of it, that's pretty much how my last girlfriend got anything out of me.

[gateley]

3. God, he NEEDS him, to whisper correct answers into his ear. nt

[yourout]

4. Oh please do it John ....please..please..please.

[Faygo Kid]

5. Take him, John. Make Joe a truly historical failure.

Failed candidate for vice president as a Dem in 2000.

Failed candidate for vice president as a Repuke in 2008.

Fits the asshole perfectly.

[Politics_Guy25]

6. LOL Yep-n/t

[Hippo_Tron]

9. John C Calhoun also ran for VP twice for both parties but he won both times

That said Gore/Lieberman won in 2000. Of course Lieberman contributed to Gore's downfall in the recount process.

[Faygo Kid]

12. That's right! Finishing up "What Hath God Wrought," in fact. Recommended.

Not hard to recommend a book that won this year's Pulitzer Prize in history.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51PkuglWCFL._SL500_BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-dp-500-arrow,TopRight,45,-64_OU01_AA240_SH20_.jpg

[Hippo_Tron]

13. Might have to check that one out, I love history

[Faygo Kid]

17. Please do. 1815-1848. Fascinating era. Important.

Just took a boat ride on the C&O canal today in Georgetown. Great fun on a Saturday; built in the 1830s. The book talks about canals, and how they were displaced by the railroads, of course.

Calhoun is prominent. He was an asshole, but he was important.

Very good social history. Part of the same series that produced McPherson's "Battle Cry of Freedom," the finest single-volume book on the Civil War (and also winner of the Pulitzer Prize).

[tritsofme]

21. A less well known fact, of course, is the close working relationship McCain had with Calhoun in the

United States Senate.

[Hippo_Tron]

22. OMG my sides hurt...

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

DUzy material right there

[Withywindle]

35. Yup, perfect

Is there ANY politican so hated by both Repugs and Dems alike?


Also, y'know, if McCain't wants to compete with Obama's looks and energy and charisma....?


Yeah. Lieberman. That's a natural. :D

[JackBeck]

7. When did Lieberman become a Democrat again?

I thought he changed his party affiliation when Connecticut Democrats didn't vote for him in the primaries.

God forbid anyone working for the MSM get their facts in order.

[napi21]

8. I would actually LIKE that! Traitor Joe would help bring out a lot of

PO'D Dems just to vote AGAINST him! I'm not thinkin' he has many real friends in the Pub Party either! I think they loved using him as they did for the last several years, but they don't like him! HOWEVER, I saw some reporter ask Joe about being the VP choice, and he said NO. I'VE BEEN THERE AND DONE THAT!

[countmyvote4real]

10. Perfect. Bweet. Did I say bweet? I meant bweet. And braah. Braah. Braah.

Two phenomenally bad speakers on the same ticket.

[Born_A_Truman]

26. Grumpy & Dopey

What a team. I didn't I could dislike either of them more, but I guess I'm wrong.

[countmyvote4real]

41. bweet. braah. bro. whatever. n/t

:woohoo:

[bluestateguy]

11. As a political move, that would be lousy

I say this as an analyst, not a Democratic partisan:

Lieberman votes with the Democrats on anything not concerning Iraq or the "War on Terrorism". McCain is already on shaky ground with the religious right and even some of the economic conservatives (he voted against the tax cuts before he called for making them permanent).

Picking a pro-choice, pro-gun control, pro-gay rights VP would be the last straw for the fundamentalist Christians who are right now barely in McCain's corner.

Lieberman would only help McCain with the one constituency that he already has safely locked up anyway: the foreign policy neo-cons.

[LeftyMom]

27. Let's not play up Short Ride's pro-choice credentials. And the fundies love his hawkishness

on ME issues- keep in mind a lot of them are gonna vote based on what they think gets them closer to floating up to Jesus.

[givemebackmycountry]

14. Oh, Please, Please, Please, Please, Please...either one is OK with me...

LIEberman that would work.
Ridge, better yet.

Please, Please, Please...

[Cha]

24. Yeah, get rid of

lieberman once and for all.

[karynnj]

15. I wouldn't be that quick to knock it

I know everyone (except maybe a small minority) here have no respect for Leiberman. But, we are not the target audience.

There are some people who might see this as a "unity ticket" and he will likely use that fact that both have some credentials on global warming. Leiberman might, in fact be the only moderate, who the RW might respect.

Fortunately, Leibermas completely blew the 2000 debate. Not to mention, think of the total charisma of the ticket - the only question is whether the sum is positive!

[democrat2thecore]

16. I imagine Joe would end up Chief of Staff if McCain were to (somehow) be elected -nt

[rocktivity]

18. By Robert "Douchebag For Liberty" Novak?

:boring:
rocknation

[Poiuyt]

19. I thought Lieberman already ruled out a VP role?

[Zachstar]

20. Please do it McCain! Take that fucker so the world can finally be sure he is a repub.

[elehhhhna]

23. Then they can be "Snore Loserman". Yay! Great idea!

[crankychatter]

31. blowin' snot here

:rofl:

[Me.]

25. Please, Please, Please

Please pick Lieberman. McBush & LIEberman, just the ticket.

[Douglas Carpenter]

28. I don't believe it would be politically possible for Sen. McCain to chose any pro-choice V.P. n

that rules out both Tom Ridge and Joe Lieberman.

And Sen. Lieberman as much as I dispise him -- on most domestic issues is fairly consistently moderately liberal. He is kind of the inverse of Sen. Hagel.

In 2007 NARAL Pro-Choice America gave Senator Lieberman a grade of 100.

Senator Lieberman supported the interests of the Planned Parenthood 100 percent in 2006.

2007 Senator Lieberman supported the interests of the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights 77 percent in 2007.

2007 Senator Lieberman supported the interests of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People 87 percent in 2007.

2006 Senator Lieberman supported the interests of the Americans United for the Separation of Church and State 67 percent in 2006.

Senator Lieberman supported the interests of the American Conservative Union 8 percent in 2007.

In 2007 National Education Association gave Senator Lieberman a grade of A.

Senator Lieberman supported the interests of the AFL-CIO 84 percent in 2007.

Senator Lieberman supported the interests of the United Auto Workers 85 percent in 2007.

Senator Lieberman supported the interests of the Americans for Democratic Action 70 percent in 2007.

[Ilsa]

29. "Grumpy Old Men -- The Campaign" The plot could consist of them

trying to steal Elizabeth Dole away from Bob, and her having to decide between the Jew and the Episcopalian-turned-Baptist. Lots of Metamucil and AARP gags. Yeah, it would make a great movie, but they'd make terrible Pres and VP.

[opihimoimoi]

30. Gov Bobby Jindal of La would do him just fine.....young. smart, and GOP.

[barack the house]

33. I can live with Biden and I think the campaign made him more likable too...

If he gets it we must work harder for senate seats though.

[charlie]

34. It gives that crass phrase

"tap that ass" a whole other meaning. An even more crass one.

Go for it Johnny. You need the experience of getting undercut behind your back by an adenoidal slimebucket.

And Pinhead Nation needs the experience of choosing either a Mooslim-atheist black or a Jew (and maybe even a woman, hoho!) for the highest offices in the land. They can grow the fuck up real quick or go home crying. It'll be fun to watch.

[jakem]

36. I bet he wants to tap that.

[PBS Poll-435]

48. But does Cindy know?

Or is she going to be in on the fun?

:rofl:

[my3boyz]

37. Stay on your knees Joe and beg him to take you...IT would be wonderful

for Dems because Dems will never vote for them because of how hawkish Joe has been on the war. Then Republicans would be so pissed that they would not vote for him.

[Clear Blue Sky]

38. Good for us. Repuke base will sit the election out.

[DangerousRhythm]

39. McSame needs a little more Joementum.

DO IT! He should do it. He knows he can't really win. Wouldn't it be nice, for HIM personally anyway, to stick it to all the people who aren't really supporting him and are gonna make his campaign tank anyway? He should totally do it out of spite... sort of a fuck you to the party for treating him so badly and not ponying up the big bucks like they did for his pal Bush. How sweet that would taste... mmm, GOP tears. So delicious.

...think that'd convince him? If he were a REAL, TRUE maverick, he'd have the balls to go for it! :rofl:


I swear I would love this like crazy. I think I'd even do a little dance if I heard he picked LIEberman.

[AllentownJake]

40. Ridge?

Isn't very popular in PA anymore since he took the job with Chimpy so it wouldn't even add to putting PA in play. Plus the GOP in this state is in absolute shambles after 2006 and Ricky boy went down in a blaze of glory with Swann. All Obama need is for Rendell to get Philadelphia subburbs and exburbs on his side and tell him how to campaign there and PA is out of reach for any Repuke.

In PA our resources are Senator and a Govenor with polar opposite groups that love them. His only resource here is Arlen and his RINO ass is too busy occupied with the important work of finding out whether the Patriots stole the Superbowl in 2005 from the Eagles.

[nsd]

42. Please, please, please let him pick Joe.

A way to vote against two birds with one stone, so to speak.

[BlooInBloo]

43. The republican party willl never have a non-white person or non-christian on the ticket.

They don't have it in 'em.

[Hoof Hearted]

44. Well, nobody's had their nose further up his ass. It wouldn't surprise me for even a moment.

And really, what's to "get away with?"

McCain isn't going to get the fundie vote anyways. They're unmotivated voters to begin with unless you put something with the word "homosexual" on the ballot. They're feelings are all hurt that George Duhbya Bush didn't make good and save all those precious little billions and billions of unborn believers from vacuum aspiration and they don't really like J-Mac.

Fundies are a no-show/non-factor this cycle.

[Raineyb]

45. Why did I first read that as tap Lieberman's ass?

I must scour my eyes for that mental image now.

Blech!

Regards

[Occam Bandage]

46. Yeah, pick Lieberman, Johnny. That'll go over great.

A total social liberal to piss off the Pubbies, and a total war hawk to ensure Dems don't vote for him.

[27inCali]

47. WOW! wouldn't that overjoy us all

to send both those dumbshits to the dumpster with the same vote.