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thepurpose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 06:31 AM
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Frank Rich today busts the myth Angry Clinton Women heart McCain?
Edited on Sun Jun-15-08 06:31 AM by thepurpose
TEN years ago John McCain had to apologize for regaling a Republican audience with a crude sexual joke about Hillary and Chelsea Clinton and Janet Reno. Last year he had to explain why he didn’t so much as flinch when a supporter asked him on camera, “How do we beat the bitch?” But these days Mr. McCain just loves the women.

In his televised address on Barack Obama’s victory night of June 3, he dismissed Mr. Obama in a single patronizing line but devoted four fulsome sentences to praising Mrs. Clinton for “inspiring millions of women.” The McCain Web site is showcasing a new blogger who crooned of the “genuine affection” for Mrs. Clinton “here at McCain HQ” after she lost. One of the few visible women in the McCain campaign hierarchy, Carly Fiorina, has declared herself “enormously proud” of Mrs. Clinton and is barnstorming to win over Democratic women to her guy’s cause.

How heartwarming. You’d never guess that Mr. McCain is a fierce foe of abortion rights or that he voted to terminate the federal family-planning program that provides breast-cancer screenings. You’d never know that his new campaign blogger, recruited from The Weekly Standard, had shown his genuine affection for Mrs. Clinton earlier this year by portraying her as a liar and whiner and by piling on with a locker-room jeer after she’d been called a monster. “Tell us something we don’t know,” he wrote.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/15/opinion/15rich.html?ref=opinion
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 08:41 AM
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1. The MSM spin can be truly dizzying
Rich debunks it well..

Fiction: According to the MSM, Obama has a problem with women voters...

Fact: He's doing better with women voters with either Al Gore or John Kerry.

Fiction: The primaries caused a rift between Obama and female voters.

Fact: Hillary did better only among older female voters. Obama won among young female voter.

Good Stuff.

K&R
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RazBerryBeret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 08:57 AM
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2. video link here from Planned Parenthood
that shows how similar McCain is to Bush on Women's rights.
and it highlights the fact that people don't really know McCains record,
we need to get this info out.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6363332&mesg_id=6363332
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:03 PM
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5. Yes, we do need to get all the info out on mccain..
so the women will know how they're cutting off their collective nose to spite their face.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 10:55 AM
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3. mccain and the "me me me" hilary voters..
have a lot in common. It's not about the Environment, Women's Choice, Our Soldiers dying in Iraq, Education, Health Care, Being Disrespected by mccain, ad infinitum..it's about them and how they can't handle losing so they'll show the country just how sore a loser they CAN be.

With mccain it's not about the country or our people it's about the war machine, the oil, tptb and how they can grab from our treasury(not that bush left anything)..they'll start grabbin' from Social Security next if they weasel into the white house.

Yeah, they're perfect for each other.

But, I asked one friend here on Sat(after we high fived in celebration for Obama) how his wife was taking it(having been for hilary) and he said she told him, "I guess I'll have to get an Obama shirt now"! He said, "oh yeah, she's not one of these 'I'm going to vote for mccain now that my candidate lost".

I sure as hell didn't vote for bush when Dean lost the primary.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 11:49 AM
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4. Give it a rest and move on.
:eyes:
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PinkTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:56 PM
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10. Thank you so much for posting this!
You made my day, Yessiirr!!!!!

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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:07 PM
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6. I'm still waiting for Franky to bust the Al Gore "Love Story" myth
Franky, your lies about Al Gore and John Kerry put us in this sticky mess. I'm still waiting for your written apology to them. Until then, nothing you write is worth reading.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:21 PM
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8. Then you are missing a great read. Good journalists always ruffle feathers. nt
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:16 PM
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7. Bay Buchanan: (McCain) “has a personality that is best kept under wraps.”
GREAT op-ed; Rich's critique of the media and the weaknesses in McCain's campaign (even AZ isn't considered safe by the RNC) is surgically precise.

K&R&K!
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:54 PM
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9. He gets to the heart of the pervasive sexism, imho.
Edited on Sun Jun-15-08 01:05 PM by TahitiNut
<snip>

But the notion that all female Clinton supporters became “angry white women” once their candidate lost — to the hysterical extreme where even lifelong Democrats would desert their own party en masse — is itself a sexist stereotype. That’s why some of the same talking heads and Republican operatives who gleefully insulted Mrs. Clinton are now peddling this fable on such flimsy anecdotal evidence.

The fictional scenario of mobs of crazed women defecting to Mr. McCain is just one subplot of the master narrative that has consumed our politics for months. The larger plot has it that the Democratic Party is hopelessly divided, and that only a ticket containing Mrs. Clinton in either slot could retain the loyalty of white male bowlers and other constituencies who tended to prefer her to Mr. Obama in the primaries.

<snip>
The hyper-simplistic myth that (1) misogyny is the sole component of sexism and (2) only males are sexist and incapable of seeing their own sexism and (3) sexism solely benefited Obama, all of which are totally false, became a narrative peddled by the sociopathically exploitative for consumption by the pathologically self-serving and myopic. Harriet Christian, of course, became the poster girl of such consumers.

:eyes:

That we saw (and continue to see) such perverted, sexist tripe peddled even here speaks to the pathology.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:58 PM
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11. this is the most critical line of the piece
This is reality turned upside down. It’s the Democrats who are largely united and the Republicans who are at one another’s throats.


Just talk to republicans and they will tell you that no one loves McCain.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 01:06 PM
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12. Carly Fiorina--the women who destroyed Hewlett-Packard's enlightened employment
practices (once one of the most progressive of the very progressive tech companies)--doesn't have to worry about affording an abortion or birth control, or getting screened for breast cancer, or any aspect of her own health care. Her "golden parachute" from H-P will take care of her, and hers, in grand style. It's interesting--and a very important subject--how the women's equality issue is used to divide women into the haves and the have-nots, just as our male-dominated political and economic establishment has divided the society as a whole, and other sub-groups within it, into the privileged few, who are very well off, and the poor, unprivileged and excluded majority. (We have the Colin Powells, and the Condi Rices, and the Kenneth Blackwells, and then we have all other African-Americans, the great majority of whom remain at the bottom rungs of the economic ladder, and are particularly targeted, disenfranchised and excluded from their rightful influence in government.)

I find it kind of pathetic the way some women who have "made it"--who have a decent life, or a luxurious life, and who have achieved power in ways that their mothers could only dream of--can't see through the strategies of the corporate rulers and warmongers in oppressing us all, including all women, by means of status and income and class warfare of the rich few against the poor majority. Instead, some women who have "made it" in this heinously criminal, murderous, torturing, thieving, corporate-run society, identify with the oppressors and seek to oppress. And some women in the lower rungs of power--who make heroines of women like Carly Fiori and Hillary Clinton--seek upward mobility into the realms of heinous power. I actually don't think there are a lot of them, but these are the ones--the "angry Clinton supporters"--whom Fiori and the McCain campaign are seeking to exploit--women who are infected with patriarchal disease of entitlement to power.

What is best, of course, for democracy, for human progress and for the very survival of our species and our planet, is no one being "entitled" to power--all sharing in collective power, as well as collective responsibility and collective wisdom. Leaders are overrated--and we have, in living memory, the traumatic experience of truly great leaders being assassinated. We need democracy for our very survival, because it is only by this means--citizen-run democracy--that both the disaster of leadership gone bad (the fascist Bush Junta), and the easy removal of good leaders--by murder, or other means--can be averted. Women who want power like Bush has, or power like the CEO of Exxon Mobil has, are missing the point. That is not a triumph of women's equality--any more than Colin Powell's or Condi Rice's rise to power is a triumph of the civil rights movement. These are failures, not triumphs. The election of a pro-war, pro-corporate woman--Hillary Clinton--as President of the United States would have been a failure of the women's movement--an ugly, corporate-drawn caricature of what women's equality means: women's equal opportunity to murder, torture, loot and oppress other people.

I say this as an older woman whose life has straddled the transition from no opportunity for women, when I was a child and teenager, to open-ended opportunity for women--in an astonishing social revolution. Perhaps only someone my age can really understand how amazing this revolution has been. But I lament what it has been turned into by our corporate rulers--the opportunity for a few women to become mass murderers and cruel exploiters of workers and the poor. Or, I should say, what they have tried to turn it into. For I think that most women don't want that kind of power, and do understand what's really going on in our culture--corporate ruler oppression of the poor majority. It has been the hope of the feminist movement, from its inception, that women would be a mighty force for peace, for equality and fairness, and for creating a progressive and compassionate society. Women, for instance, led the anti-slavery movement. The two causes were one. We need to return to those revolutionary roots in the women's movement, and turn away from notions of equaling men at being jerks, criminals, warmongers and oppressors.

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