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nsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:18 PM
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Dem Convention $15 Million Short Of Fundraising Goal
How is this possible? This year of all years? We should be fired up and ready to go.

I thought for once we'd have the fund-raising advantage at every level.

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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:20 PM
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2. One fundraiser in Hollywood should cover the Denver convention,
Edited on Sun Jun-15-08 12:27 PM by Old Crusoe
and then some.

Barbra Streisand could cover that in one concert/fundraiser.

I ain't frettin' none.
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PinkTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:22 PM
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7. It's spelled Barbra.
Not to rain on your parade, I am not sure she is so inclined.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:27 PM
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18. I'll amend the spellin'. She's already said she is inclined to support the
Democratic ticket, as she has done for a long time.
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PinkTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:29 PM
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22. But maybe she is not in the mood for a party.
Why not contact Tom Hanks? I understand he would be sympathetic with the situation. Probably bring out more folks.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:31 PM
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23. Hanks? He can't carry a tune in a bucket.
I say we stick with Ms. Streisand.
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:28 PM
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21. I think she may be.
The legendary diva's spokeswoman has confirmed that Streisand and Obama are talking about how she can best be used in the Senator's race for the White House.

The singer, a fervent Democrat and longtime friend of Obama's recent party rival Hillary Clinton, is expected to perform at one of the Senator's upcoming fundraisers.


http://www.showbizspy.com/news/06122008/barbra-streisand-wants-to-help-barack-obama
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:37 PM
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28. She is a dem ... so why wouldn't she be so inclined??? are you
saying this because she was a hillary backer??? but even if she was not so inclined I would think we could find a lot of famous names like Bruce Springsteen which would bring in as many if not more people..
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PinkTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:47 PM
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33. Well, gee, I haven't talked to her lately.
Edited on Sun Jun-15-08 12:48 PM by PinkTiger
I was just supposin'.
What do I know? :shrug:
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PinkTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:20 PM
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3. I know several people who
Instead of giving to the Party were giving to a candidate.
Now that we have a presumed nominee, I think most people are strapped. I know I am.
Also, there is some residual ire. I know I have some.
Maybe the presumed nominee should kick in some funds there.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 10:50 AM
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52. Before or After
he pays Hillary's debt?

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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:21 PM
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4. Hell, hold it in an empty auditorium with a card table, I don't care.
  Cut the order for ranch dressing in half. Use carpet samples to cover the convention floor. I don't give a shit if they hold it in a barn.

  Let's get it done and get to the excoriating McCain part.

PB
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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:21 PM
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5. A protracted nomination process means donors are contributing to candidates, not to events.
Also, a crappy economy means donors prioritize, if they give at all--I'd rather contribute to a candidate directly than to a nominating convention.
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PinkTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:24 PM
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10. Say, here's an idea: Move it to Chicago.
Should be cheaper there.
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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:51 PM
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36. At this point?


I have no idea whether Denver is more expensive than Chicago, but Chicago would certainly be more expensive if the DNC moved the convention there at this late date. Lost deposits? Change fees? Reprinting promotional material? Oy.
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PinkTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 01:02 PM
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40. Sorry, my bad.
I was just thinking it would be more convenient. But what do I know?:shrug: :shrug: :shrug: :shrug: :shrug: :shrug:
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wmbrew0206 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 11:01 AM
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53. Not a good idea, that would kill any chance of Colorado going blue
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:21 PM
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6. So we're breaking fundraising records left and right for our candidates, and outstripping
the Republicans badly for our Congressional and Senate funds...but people aren't donating as much for the Confetti-and-Caviar fund? Damn, I guess we better pack it up and go home.
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nsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:22 PM
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8. The convention is important as a PR event.
It's four days of free TV advertising for the whole ticket. We do want it to look good.

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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:25 PM
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12. Yep. It's great for defining your opponent. Remember the GOP's "FLIP-FLOP FLIP FLOP" smear?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:25 PM
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13. Oh, my yes most of us do, don't we.
But...there was a group of major donors sitting on their butts because they did not get their way?
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:26 PM
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16. Our nominee, a Mr. Microphone, and a barn full of occupied folding chairs will beat out the RNC con
Don't sweat it. But thanks again for your concern.
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nsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:28 PM
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20. Why do you keep thanking me for my concern?
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:34 PM
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25. Well, you're clearly very concerned.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:52 PM
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37. Just being polite. Golly. nt
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:24 PM
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9. Maybe Hillary's rich donors are still throwing a temper tantrum.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:24 PM
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11. Maybe same major donors who tried to crash DNC fundraising.
Because they did not get their way.

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PinkTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:25 PM
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14. I don't think major donors have anything to do with the shortfall.
But great talking point, yeah.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:26 PM
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15. Of course they do. Private donors and corporations mostly pay for it.
Of course they would withhold money for ulterior motives.
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PinkTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:27 PM
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19. Wow. A conspiracy? Who would do that?
Do you have names? I want to send flame letters to each and every one. How dare they!!!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:47 PM
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34. I posted them below.
Only part of them.
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VeraAgnes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:27 PM
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17. The Primaries were traumatic
for the Party overall. We have Clinton supporters who are well known as huge donors...they have been offended.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:32 PM
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24. Hey, here's how it is possible..same folks who did this.
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PinkTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:51 PM
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35. What are we going to do about this!!!!
This can't be condoned!!! These people are fools!!!! They are micreants!!!! We must act now!!!!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 01:06 PM
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41. Oh, dear. You are getting too excited.
Edited on Sun Jun-15-08 01:06 PM by madfloridian
The damage has been done. It may be fixed eventually, but it has been done.
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:35 PM
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26. I pulled my donation to the party till the primary was over..
I will now reinstate my dollars...I had a candidate in mind and I wanted to support that person as much as a little donor can do..but I also want the dmeocratic slate in office nationwide.. so time to pony up some for the down ticket canidates and the health of the party
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:36 PM
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27. And I also need to remember to spell check
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:38 PM
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29. The convention is funded largely by corporate cash and big donors
So I'm not particularly worried about finding enough of that.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:44 PM
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30. But that would include people like this.
Edited on Sun Jun-15-08 12:48 PM by madfloridian
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:45 PM
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31. They were still under the impression that they could somehow make Hillary the nominee
Edited on Sun Jun-15-08 12:46 PM by Hippo_Tron
And that led them to desperation. I think it's pretty clear that Obama is the boss now and they will fall in line soon enough.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:47 PM
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32. I hope so.
I really do.
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PinkTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:54 PM
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38. We cannot tolerate this type of dissent.
I say all of them should be disenfranchised and repulsed now.
Obama is the boss. Yes. Obama is King.
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 08:18 AM
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48. Bitter often?
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 10:02 AM
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50. we don't take money from lobbyists anymore, remember?
why do you think those big companies and large donors wrote those checks, bought those skyboxes, threw those lavish parties? Out of the goodness of their hearts?
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:57 PM
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39. What fund does this money come out of? DNC? One reason this is
happening is because many of us are waiting to donate during the GE.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 01:07 PM
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42. Funded mostly by private donors and corporations.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 07:39 AM
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56. No, this is not DNC. It's private Denver money
It's the Host Committee not the Democratic national Committee.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 01:07 PM
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43. We should have a seperate fundraiser for the
DNC at DU like we do for Obama? :) Put our money where our hearts and minds are.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 01:11 PM
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44. It has been just the opposite at DU and most liberal blogs.
There have been spurts of fundraising for the DNC, but mostly for candidates only.

The DNC depended on small donors as the larger ones were not in Dean's corner for obvious reasons.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 01:18 PM
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45. Right..no wonder they need $15 Million. But, now that the DNC and Obama
are working together in Chicago to get Obama and Democrats across the country elected, thanks to Dean's innovative 50 state strategy, that Obama is taking to new heights..it's the DNC's Time.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 01:51 PM
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46. who do you think pays for conventions?
corporations and lobbyists. Since we no longer take money from them...
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 09:25 AM
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49. welcome to ignoramus underground
for some here, this just represents another chance to fill the outrage quotient by bashing Hillary Clinton.

In reality, it's looking like Mayor Hickenlooper bit off more than he can chew.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 07:32 AM
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47. This is not the Democratic National Committee - it's the Denver Host Committee
The people who pitched Denver to the DNC promising to raise this money. Part of the reason Denver was selected was because the Host Committee promised that there'd be a coalition established which would be able to provide what the DNC required. Now they are falling short.

This isn't about DNC money being short. It's the Denver people who now can't come up with what they promised.
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mystieus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 10:46 AM
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51. Lobbyist are laughing.
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 11:52 AM
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54. The DNC has ignored its base for nearly a decade, if not more....
and its base as decided to return the favor in kind.

I will contribute to Obama and to groups which represent my goals, but not the DNC.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 07:38 AM
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55. Unfortunately, the states will suffer with this reasoning but this is not about the DNC
The DNC has nothing to do with the Convention host committee not raising the funds they promised.

A contribution to the DNC helps support the state partnership staff in all 50 states. This is a major way we were able to pick up House seats in '06 and will go far to strengthening our majorities in bothe the House and the Senate.

But, this thread is about the Convnetion Host Committee and many people are reading it as the DNC not being able to raise the funds.
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LawyersGunsandMoney Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 07:40 AM
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57. Maybe Hillary can lend them some money.
:evilgrin:
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