Photos From Obama`s Fathers Day Speech At The Apostolic Church Of God In Chicago

[Hope And Change]

Photos From Obama`s Fathers Day Speech At The Apostolic Church Of God In Chicago

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WTF is the matter with some people here??I posted a link to some pics and some people needed to go negative.The primary is over...

[Evergreen Emerald]

1. why is he preaching at a church? This should not be part of a campaign

for President. I wonder if the church could lose tax-free status?

[Hope And Change]

2. Are you concerned?

[Evergreen Emerald]

6. I am concerned for the separation of Church and State.

Religion should not be in politics. That is what our country has stood for.

[K Gardner]

19. Oh for fuck's sake, stop this shit. How disingenuous can you possibly be? If you're

over 12 years old, you KNOW that politics, candidates, et al have been scrutinized for church/religion for decades.

Stop acting holier than thou and trying to disguise it as Concern. We know its hard, being that Hillary Lost, but it's fucking over.

[genna]

4. Why would it when I've watched Dubya, Bill, Hillary, and a few other politicians in the pulpit?

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[Evergreen Emerald]

7. why do you say that?

And, I saw him preaching at the pulpit--that is where I got it.

And finally: I am doing nothing wrong.

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[Evergreen Emerald]

9. as this is a "democratic" board

Discussion about the separation of church and state should be relevant to any discussion.

Your "concern" is improper.

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[Evergreen Emerald]

13. I am deeply offended that you believe that YOUR beliefs are "true"

and mine are "suspect." I am not certain who made you the DU hall monitor, but I suggest you find something better to do.

And, in answer to your question: this is not "one incident" Obama has been courting the Evangelists lately in many ways.

[Tarheel_Dem]

15. And "evangelists" don't vote? You should just admit that you have

a personal bias, and move on. I'm not the DU Hall monitor, but I know b.s. when I see it.

[Evergreen Emerald]

23. Lots of people vote. Including racists, homophobics, and many many

others that do not share "democratic" values. His attempts to reach out to the George Bush Evangilists should be fodder on a democratic board.

You state that I have a personal bias--I see that your personal bias blinds you.

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[otohara]

12. He Spoke About Fathers

in the AA community, being a good father - God forbid!

[genna]

3. I wonder how difficult it will be for the Obamas to find a politically neutral, non controversial

and unoffensive church in DC or Chicago?

Inevitably, church will offend someone. Will their faith be vanilla enough to be non-confrontational?

[Evergreen Emerald]

10. The issue for me is not their church. Most politicians have a faith

and worship regularly. But, in a presidential campaign, I do not like the campaign preaching from the pulpit. I know he is attempting to gain those Evangelical voters who went with Bush in the past. But in doing so he is ignoring ME and those who have been faithful in believing that church is not a place for politics.

[ellacott]

14. Did you disapprove of it when the Clintons did it?

[Heather MC]

16. Perhaps the Problem is not Barack, Perhaps the Problem is you.

I watched Barack speak at that Church, even though the "country" was there because of the Camera's he was speaking to that congregation. I know some people don't want Barack to be the "black" Candidate, but he is, and he is the most influential black man in our countries history since Martin Luther King. People are listening to him, but he has to go to the people to make sure his message gets heard. Not every one has cable or internet. And black people do not traditionally go to Political rallies, but they do go to church.

Barack has to go talk to everyone, everywhere he can reach them. Did you complain when he spoke o the Jewish people? There are voters in Churches, the same as there are voters in stadiums. I am a strong believer in the separation of Church and State, but I don't see a conflict here. Now when he is President he makes decisions based on his faith then we have a problem. We already have a president who does that. For example, Abortion, shold not be a political issue, but it is made one not because of politics but because of religion. The same s true with stem cell research.

You may not like that he was speaking in a church Sunday, but I think his NOT speaking in churches is ignoring a huge block of people. It's hard to be all inclusive and not piss some people off, so instead of getting upset, just accept that voters are everywhere and Barack has to go where the voters are. So if you don't want to meet him in a church, just be patient, he will come to a you at some point, in a venue you will be most comfortable.

[Hope And Change]

17. Bravo!That was a good post Heather MC.

:thumbsup:

[Tarheel_Dem]

18. Excellent and "rational" post. Thanks Heather. Unfortunately, some

can't wait to pounce on anything Obama does because he wasn't their 1st choice. He wasn't mine either, but I sucked it up, and got behind the nominee. If people are looking for a reason not to vote for Obama, they should just be honest about that, and post elsewhere.

[K Gardner]

20. This disruptor's problem is not Church.. It's Barack. Evidently still not over Hillary losing and

decided to turn a LOVELY POST into a flamefest.

[Heather MC]

21. True, some people have nothing better to do!

Next they will be complaining he wears pants and not skirts so how can h represent woman if he doesn't where a skirt with coordinating high heels, matching purse, and Jewelry the makes the entire outfit POP!

[Evergreen Emerald]

26. Wow. I make a legitimate comment

and you attack and then blame me for a "flame fest."

Why not respond to the issue?

[Evergreen Emerald]

24. How offensive.

I am talking about Church and state, and you are suggesting my post has something to do with racism.

Very offensive.

In reaching to the George Bush evangilists, he may be isolating those who do not share those values that have been spouted for the last 7 years. Values like homophobia, racism, the constitution, right to life, etc.

[ellacott]

25. Didn't look like many George Bush evangelists in the audience

[caledesi]

22. Thank you for your concern. NT