All these celebratory granite-cookie threads are freakin' me out.

[Writer]

I'm walking on eggshells here, people! However, if I serve brownies to GDP - delicious fudge brownies like these:



Will that earn me brownie points?

[tekisui]

1. If only I could reach in to my computer, those look good.

[Solon]

2. They need to have some "special" ingredients added to them...

:evilgrin:

[Rick Myers]

4. Ummm, brownies with special butter and herbs

:toast:

[alteredstate]

9. Yep, that special butter is the secret ingredient.

[Jazzgirl]

12. Methinks it's the special herbs.... n/t

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

3. Those aren't muslim brownies, are they?

They look suspect.

[jgraz]

5. That's not a brownie! It's a Terrorist Fudge Jab!!!!111

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

8. I don't like the way those brownies were cut by knives.

Such gang violence sends the wrong message to youth.

[panhead1961]

59. That is Satanic stacking - You must hate Jesus

[beac]

73. Does that mean I'm an

Obrowniecan??

Here's the the audacity of HOPING someone will bake me a batch soon! ;)

[alteredstate]

6. Who received a pizza delivery today?

Or did more than one disrupter bite the dust?

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[alteredstate]

16. Thanks.

It's a veritable pizza party in here today.

[BelleCarolinaPeridot]

7. Dude how did you know that I loved BROWNIES!

[Jazzgirl]

10. You are awful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How dare you tempt me like that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! }( }( }( }(

[Starbucks Anarchist]

11. What kind of brownies?

:D

[jonnyblitz]

21. Bettyellen makes the best brownies.

!!!!

[papapi]

13. Yummmm! Chocolate chunk. My fave!

You were wise to not put butterscotch chips in these.

Cindy's Cookies

[Catherina]

14. People like you shouldn't walk on eggshells

You were always cool.

But I'll take the brownies anyway :evilgrin:

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[jgraz]

17. Y'know, those brownies are doin a heckuva job.

[Writer]

18. BAH-duh CRASH!

:P

[SwampG8r]

19. oh...posting food pics?

how....original....:sarcasm:


:hi: :loveya: :pals: :hug:

[Writer]

32. ...

:P

:hug:

[highplainsdem]

20. I'd like a brownie. And I'd like the granite cookie threads to be locked and get the grave-dancers

tombstoned.

[LisaM]

22. I second that.

I thought before, and I think now, that it's a concerted effort to try and TS people, particularly as I've seen "warning" messages from people who have been alerting on everything.

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[seaglass]

25. Yep. It's creating a very shitty atmosphere at DU. n/t

[JVS]

74. Think of it as the last bit of shittiness that the disruptor gets to leave behind.

The reason for gravedancing is that the disruptors fuck the place up and people are glad to see them taken away. In the long run the place becomes less shitty.

[LowerManhattanite]

34. Interesting. And quite hypocritical...

...considering that the tombstoned have in 99% of the cases roundly deserved it because they were disruptors, dead-end griefers and trolls.

The fact that most of those were supporters of the candidate who did not win and continued to act out EVEN AFTER they were told what would happen should the sniping, flame-baiting and passive-aggressive shilling for McCain continue seems to be what bothers you here. So you of course BEG for those who remain, are pleased with the clean-up and supported the candidate you DIDN'T want, to be tombstoned. How surprising.

Not.

Folks like Writer have nothing to worry about as he's not been a troll or worked against the presumptive nominee which goes against the rules of this site.

Want “less” grave-dancing? Tell your pals to be civil and stop with the silly, unhelpful, interparty jail-shanking.

[PassingFair]

49. !!

:applause:

Throw the uncivil jerks overboard.

(NOT sarcasm)

[JVS]

51. Writer is female, and you're right. She doesn't disrupt and shouldn't worry.

Spot on about the rest of the stuff. If they don't like gravedancing, they can obey the rules, then there will be no graves on which to dance.

[emilyg]

40. I'm with you.

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[Danger Mouse]

23. Well...okay.

:hi:

[musicblind]

24. I kinda hear what you're saying. I would probably post more if I wasn't

afraid of accidentally getting banned. I don't really know what might set someone off. The last thread I started was my "I think Obama is going to win NC" thread. These grave dancing threads and the number of tombstones on prominent members is frightening me enough to not really want to be that prominent anymore.

[PurityOfEssence]

27. You'll note that many of the long-timers are keeping a low profile

The crushing orthodoxy is rather disturbing.

One of the more telling moments of late was when Obama spoke to AIPAC: there were many threads mitigating this, explaining it, supporting it, and all that, and they stayed put. The one thread (by an Obama supporter who underlined that fact) that thought it was a bad idea was IMMEDIATELY exiled to the Mid-East forum to languish largely unseen. It was a big issue.

It's a very interesting predicament, but many choose not to enter into discussion about it for fear of being banished by the faithful. The use of the "alert" button to quash opinions that one doesn't like but that are within the spirit and letter of the rules is an abuse, but it's one that's being routinely done.

There's a huge difference between slagging the nominee to hurt the party's chances and dissenting to dangerous missteps.

The self-congratulatory echo-chamber effect is fun for those who feel powerless and lost in a sea of conservatives, but it's not going to help us win. THAT takes perspicacity, not the reveling in ignoring everything that doesn't support one's stance. The proclivity of many of the extremist Obama supporters to blithely ignore anything that doesn't fit their worldview is not just irritating, it's scary. I don't want to lose in November, and many things coming out of the mouths of the triumphalists play into the hands of our very skilled and driven enemies.

It's certainly not the home it has been for the last seven years, but like many of the stalwarts, I'm confident that things will return to a less strident and party-line enforced place than it is at the moment. Then again, who knows?

[highplainsdem]

29. I agree completely.

[JohnnyLib2]

37. "Triumphalists" --

my education is broadened. :thumbsup:

[Tyler Durden]

45. "Fairie tales can come true, it can happen to you...."

Just call me "The Lone Lurker" these days.

I will say that there are many, many people here who when you mention their contribution to the "Dog Pile on the Clinton Supporter!" they have a reaction of "WHO? MOI?" I'm certain every single raindrop that fell in Iowa last week felt just the same way:

[paulk]

48. "crushing orthodoxy"

that's hitting the nail on the head.

It's like a new definition for "unity".

I was thinking of rereading "Darkness at Noon", but I realized there was no need. I'm seeing it reenacted every day here.

[Runcible Spoon]

54. as a long time member, I fully agree with your post and have noticed the same.

there are about 30 or 40 long time members I know by name recognition and largely they pop up only occasionally in topic forums or the lounge. These are DUers who have been here through two brutal primary seasons and really fear getting TS'd. I sit thinking about all possible angles my point might be taken before I hit "post" these days...it's wearying and a waste of energy.

The most disgusting thing I've witnessed lately is the common meme that Kucinich cares about impeachment only as far as it will help his political aspirations. All of this "now is not the time" bullshit, that supporting impeachment efforts is contrary to Obama's campaign. Ughh.

[saracat]

58. I agree absolutely. It seems the ignorance of any point of view other than positive reinforcement of...

one's own is dangerous. No candidate or campaign is perfect. Discussion of campaign "missteps" is permitted yet many are "afraid to post" for fear of either "insult" or "tombstoning". Ironically, while some scream the "primary is over" and use that fact as a cudgel to beat any dissent over the head, they have no problem with rehashing the fact that many loyal DUers supported other candidates than the nominee originally.That fact is obvious even in this thread. It is very sad indeed that some do not see DU as a vehicle for the expression of complex ideas and would reduce us to the equivalent of "yes men" with nothing constructive to offer to the nominee.

[Maddy McCall]

62. Excellent post.

:thumbsup:

[MonkeyFunk]

64. There's a concerted effort to try to get every Clinton supporter banned

A number of people have repeatedly accused me of breaking the rules, but with no evidence whatsoever. They claim I've attacked Obama which is just a lie.

But they keep saying it all the time, hoping that the accusation will "stick". It's disgusting.

[PurityOfEssence]

65. The extremists of the Obama camp are worse than the Clarkies of old, who were worse than the Deanies

Many people are trying to be good citizens, but there are issues that bear being raised. Some of the sanctimony and blind serial ignoring of people and of pitfalls and missteps are quite startling.

Much as I consider him a dicey candidate, he's the guy, and it's our job to secure a victory. This is NOT going to be done by blind faith and giddy exuberance; the only people who will be swayed by the cult of personality and the dazzling quintessence of this person long since have been, and those who persist in that kind of approach do us no good at all.

There seems to be more of an air of rationality creeping in of late, but that may just be my inherent optimism clouding things again.

The most ridiculous instance I had of late was having a satirical song thread instantly locked because the Mod said it was impossible to ignore alerts, and those who disliked the spirit of the thread wanted to shout it out of existence. I feel for the Mod in that instance: it must have been tiresome to have to endure a tsunami of rage because some spaz posted a cheeky bit of ridicule. (That's actually sincere: I don't think the Mod really wanted to kill it, he/she was just plagued by shrieks of indignation from the self-proclaimed virtue phalanx, and short of wanting to appease them with my cyberscalp, did me the favor of merely letting it wash away.)

Still, it was a mighty fun little song...

[rodeodance]

76. I believe you

are right. And i do not you have attacked o.
i have seen you ask for evidence but no one supplies it.

[cornermouse]

75. It has become quite unpleasant to be here.

Who wants to spend much time in a "place" where you have to watch what you say or where you don't say anything in the hope that DU will finally straighten back out and return to being the place it once was? And let me remind you that you don't have to be a Clinton supporter to incur their anger and become a target.

[Runcible Spoon]

53. that's just really sad but it's kinda true...

these days, all you need for a granite cookie is to type something that sets off an angry mob, BAM you get enough alerts, and you're out.

It's not the fault of the mods. They are only doing their jobs, but the truth of the matter is there are enough clever people here of all opinions that you can successfully argue that SOME point, each and every one of us:

1. Has not "supported" the nominee in some way (maybe we just didn't like the color of his tie one day; that's enough to set some off)

2. Has been a "racist" or a "sexist" or a "troll" or a "neofeminist" or a "paleofeminist" or a "misogynist" or a "corporatist" or a "treehugger" or an "elitist" you get the point...

3. That the ONLY reason we have anything contrary to prevalent opinion is because "our nominee" didn't win, which is DU Codespeak for "you are a bunch of Hillarybot sore losers" even if Clinton was NOT our top choice!

4. The only OTHER reason we have anything contrary to some notion of status quo opinion is because we are rehashing "primary wars" or are "baiting"

5. are so eeeevil and wrong that we apparently think puppy stomping is a fun Saturday night!

THINK before you PM your entire friends list and get the ALERT button all fired up, PLEASE. Ask yourself, how would I treat this person in real life? If you can imagine having a friendship with this person, IE, you're on the same page about most things but there is just that one little issue you are passionately at odds about, don't alert on every post that rubs you the wrong way. Now, if you couldn't stand to be in the same room as that person for 5 minutes, alert away.

It is my opinion that anything truly heinous and disgusting should stand on its own so that people can see that your opinion of that person is correct. The only posts I alert on are from obvious trolls/Freepers. The rare occasion that I alert on a full member is when that member has gotten abusive with posters in a discussion, but I never alert purely because I disagree.

[CreekDog]

i've never seen anyone tombstoned without them really going off the deep end

with something fairly over the top, either in one post, or series of posts before it happens.

the idea that someone here for 5 years would get banned simply for saying they didn't like the way the nominee did X is ridiculous, that's not what's been happening.

[ecstatic]

28. those who got funerals should feel honored

They left an impression, although a bad one.

[SoCalDem]

30. Cindy McCain's old family recipe for brownies

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[DearAbby]

33. Dammit Writer....

My ass just grew three inches wider and four pounds heavier, just looking at that picture....!!!

[Writer]

35. I feel your pain.

I now cannot leave my office. :(

[musicblind]

39. haha

dear abby, that comment cracked me up :rofl:

[JohnnyLib2]

36. Delicious. But alas--

they are served at wakes, too.

[Guava Jelly]

38. I'll kid Mod Ass if they serve you a pizza ;)

I'm all talk.
But they would get a firm fist shaken! :D

[Writer]

52. I think you'd opt for the spanking.

:P

[L0oniX]

41. You are suppose to take the stems and seeds out ..dude!

:evilgrin:

[JVS]

42. People have had more than a week to get with the fucking program, yet I still see people...

describing Obama as having hubris, and even calling him "Saint Obama". They should be banned, and we should all celebrate when they are banned.

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[highplainsdem]

55. And the people posting insane messages accusing the Clintons of being homicidal should have been

banned. Those people belong in freeperville. And the person who posted last night calling the Clintons "creatures from the black lagoon" should have been banned.

Tell me, what do you think is more offensive and more damaging to the Democratic Party overall, as an attack on a Democratic leader?

Suggesting Obama suffers from hubris, and calling him "Saint Obama"? (I haven't seen him called that, btw, but I'll take your word for it.)

Or accusing a former president and a former First Lady and current US senator of being homicidal, and calling them creatures from the black lagoon?

Seriously, what do you consider the nastier comments?

[Seabiscuit]

63. Sadly,

I don't think anyone here ever got tombstoned for insulting the Clintons. As a result, before last week this place was a friggin' out-of-control nuthouse.

[MonkeyFunk]

70. yep

the rules against re-fighting the primaries only go one way it seems. It's so fucking insane that if somebody attacks Clinton and I defend her, a posse jumps on ME for trying to re-fight the primaries.

There's no rule against defending democrats. In fact, there are rules against ATTACKING democrats, but they're ignored.

I had one asshole say I was going to be banned because I had a Clinton avatar - an avatar provided by the administrators.

[hokies4ever]

71. YAWN!

:rofl:

[rodeodance]

77. true

[hokies4ever]

72. Probably following Terry McAuliffe's advice and listening to Fox News

They're the ones constantly pushing that talking point.

[blondeatlast]

56. Agreed. If they won't move forward, get them outta the way. If they can't do that,

it's time to make them.

I find that they begin to fall fast later in the day. My alert finger's a little sore but I think I'll be fine this afternoon...

[TBF]

47. Since you're offering... could you bring me a glass of milk too? Yum!

I don't care about the trolls - that is up to the mods. I just alert when I see them and that's all you can do. There are still a couple stumbling about, but many of the worst offenders are gone.

[Bake]

50. I'm alerting on you!!

You just shot my diet all to hell!!

:rofl:

Bake

[Symarip]

57. You know what goes really good with (special) brownies?

Red wine. Preferably merlot.

Man, no one would get tombstoned around here if we had (special) brownies and red, red wine for everyone.

[newmajority]

66. Red Red Wine...... goes to my head..... makes me forget....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKBFpmGVV6g

[Swamp Rat]

60. Did I miss something?

Have a Mrs. Fiel... McCain's Chocolate Chip cookie.

:D

[davidpdx]

61. Haha..a new twist on the old Al Gore invented the internet

Nice picture, but they both need devil's horns on their heads.

[truthisfreedom]

67. mmm... now if they only had walnuts...

mmm!

[comtec]

68. Yes it can, yes it can...

YES... it... can!!!!
mmmmmmmm browniessssssss
Would you believe there is no equivilent here in Holland for brownies?
and space cake is little more than pound cake :(
I really need to start edumicating these savages in the ways of proper confection :)
soon as im done with this fucking bug!

[bridgit]

69. Granite is so 2nd rate, so low rent; I seek a marble TS...

:thumbsup: