MSNBC should DUMP JOE Scarborough asap!

[polichick]

Morning Joe was actually intelligent and watchable while he was away ~ it's once again worthless!

Anyone agree???

[BklynChick]

1. completely agree.

[high density]

2. They just reupped his contract until 2011

http://www.observer.com/2008/joe-scarborough-extends-contract-msnbc

[polichick]

6. Who is he sleeping with to pull that off?!

[jobycom]

10. The Republicans, therefore the corporate owners and advertisers.

Media 101--since deregulation, the media is owned by a handful of multi-national corporations who use their media departments to advertise for their parent corporation's interests, as well as the interests of their corporate sponsors. IIRC, Joe is on MSNBC, who is owned by GE, which was run by Jack Welsh, who campaigned aggressively for George Bush. GE, of course, is a large defense contractor who received Brazilians in tax cuts under Bush's plan.

So, Joe gets an extension.

And you've heard of the dead girl in his office, I hope?

[polichick]

13. Wasn't the case dropped without any charges filed?

I've never heard the details ~ what about her family? Were they satisfied with the outcome?

[jobycom]

22. I don't think he killed her.

She was found dead in his Florida office, shortly after Joe announced he was retiring from Congress and divorcing his wife amid allegations of an affair. The coroner and police chief announced that there were no signs of injury, and an autopsy would be performed. Meanwhile, the media began reporting that she had a history of heart problems and seizures. Her family quickly denied these rumors, saying she was in fact a runner who competed in marathons, and Joe came out and asked the media to stop reporting that, and criticized them for reporting rumors. The media then announced that Joe was the source of the rumors--he denied this, of course.

Soon after, the autopsy showed that she had died when a heart arrhythmia had caused her to faint and strike her head on the side of a desk hard enough to smash her brain against the opposite side of her skull, and as she lay for hours dying, a foam cone formed around her lips. When asked how she could have received such a blow without there being obvious signs of trauma to the body, the coroner proudly declared that the trauma was obvious, but they had lied about them, because they didn't want people asking a lot of questions about a dead woman with a head injury in a Congressman's office.

Turns out the coroner had been fired and had his license revoked in another state for lying on autopsies, specifically about head injuries.

I doubt Scarborough had her killed (he was in DC, so he didn't do it). Her family has not (that I've heard) blamed him. But there is no doubt that Scarborough interfered, got officials to lie, and spread false rumors to cover up any suspicion that he was involved. And despite fierce local coverage of a dead woman in a US Congresscritter's office, and intense national media at the exact same time of a missing intern for a Democratic Congresscritter (Gary Conditt/Chandra Levy), the national media never once reported the story, and apparently replied to all questions that they thought it was a non-story (despite ruining Condit's career over far less incriminating evidence).

And then there's the bigger question: was she murdered? The coroner's claim is that a healthy runner fainted, fell against a desk from less than 3' (she was about 5'8", the desk was three feet high) with enough force to kill her. Maybe that's true. Or maybe there was a murder, but the local officials and Joe decided Joe's reputation was more important, and did a cover up to protect him, letting a real murderer go free. We'll never know, because they don't think we have a right to know.

Ah, a walk down memory lane.

[polichick]

25. Wow - that's incredible! Thanks for getting me up to speed.

[Freddie Stubbs]

48. That certainly explains MSNBC's 8:00PM weeknight programming

[lisa58]

26. 2011?????? - back to Washington Journal

[Cleita]

3. Yes, I don't watch Morning Joe but when I have seen him on other

programs what I see is a stupid, poorly informed man, who can't shut up or let anyone else talk.

[polichick]

11. Yeah, what is that?! He cuts everyone off and drones on and on.

[jobycom]

4. No, I think Scarborough is honest, intelligent, objective, and charming.

:sarcasm:

Of course we all agree, that's why you're the only one watching him! :rofl:

[polichick]

5. Lol - I only tuned in for a few minutes after my vacation...

And thought "He's baaaaack. SHIT!"

[Fridays Child]

7. What I hate is how Mika Brzezinski lets them marginalize and debase her.

She whines and giggles like a school girl, on that show. I'm humiliated for her, just watching it. I only hope the position of brainless bimbo pays well, at M$NBC.

[polichick]

9. That really bothers me too - I thought it was telling that...

...she was terrified to interview her father on the show one morning ~ and, sure enough, he corrected her right off the bat!

[Youphemism]

35. He did more than correct her...

...at the end of the interview, with only Joe asking the questions, she finally asked him, "How did I do?"

He said, "You did very well. You were quiet."

For anyone else, that would have been terribly disrespectful. For her, it was spot on. I can't stand her.

[polichick]

42. That must've been a different time - Joe wasn't there when I saw it...

It's sad that Mika seems afraid of her own father ~ I've met him a few times and he was always very polite towards me, but it makes me wonder if he was an extremely demanding parent.

In any case, Mika doesn't deserve to be dissed by any of those guys.

[Born_A_Truman]

12. I agree

I happen to have insomnia last night and watched part of the show this morning and was disgusted at how he seems to stop and explain to Mika what he's talking about, as if she is a student and she can't grasp it on her own. I would be smacking him upside the head or kicking him under the desk if he pulled that with me. He's demeaning towards her to say the least.

[Cleita]

14. Maybe she doesn't want to end up dead under his desk. n/t

[butterfly77]

47. You hit that one right on the nose..

when the show began I thought Meka was holding her ground and standing up to his bull, but now I can't stand to watch her as well as him. She lets them run over her and when Joe's not there she seems to be acting like him or using his type of talking points...

[mzmolly]

8. I like Joe, though I disagree with him

he was one of the first "conservatives" to speak out against Bushy boy. That said, I never watch his show.

[SuperTrouper]

15. and they are considering him to replace Russert for MTP

as well as Andrea Mitchell, David Gregory, and Keith Olbermann. But Joke Scumborough would be terrible as a replacement. They should move Mika out of Morning Joke and have Rachel Maddow co-host with Scumborough and then you would see Morning Joe become Morning Fireworks!!

[NYCGirl]

16. No, you're mistaken. NBC is not considering any "cable personalities" to take

over MTP.

http://www.newser.com/story/30127.html

Newser) – Early word on Tim Russert's Meet the Press successor focused on in-house candidates, like Chris Matthews, David Gregory, or Joe Scarborough. But one insider now tells Variety that there’s “no way” a cable personality will land the gig. NBC’s broadcast division would rather stay “pristine”—free from the punditry that hovers around MSNBC.

Of the three, former correspondent Gregory is seen as having the best shot, because he earned his reputation on network news, and hasn’t been in the cable game long. It will in any case be hard to fill Russert’s shoes—as other networks' attempts to catch him in the ratings have shown. Russert's closest competitor, ABC's George Stephanopoulos, trailed him by an average 1 million viewers.

[SuperTrouper]

17. Thanks for the link, I do like David Gregory for the job.

Maybe Tom Brokaw as interim host.

[Youphemism]

41. God no. He's a twit.

I don't understand it. Russert asked *everyone* tough questions, and many people on this board slammed him. (No, he didn't let Bush off the hook. I watched that interview replayed over the weekend, and Bush needed to change his undershorts afterward. It was the toughest interview I've ever seen him subjected to.)

David Gregory is an arrogant narcissist, who really *does* seem to show he's coming from the right. But mostly, he shows that he thinks he's hot shit.

Joe shouldn't even be considered, because he isn't just on the right, he's *of* the right. Brokaw could do it temporarily, but I don't see anyone currently working there who could run that show correctly. They need to bring in someone new.

[Major Hogwash]

30. Thank gawd. Meet the Press is dead to me now. I don't care who gets that job.

I'm sick of hearing the MSM spin this shit about Bush being a nice guy, a great guy to have a beer with - as if that is how Presidents are supposed to be chosen - and that the Iraq war was started because of "group think".

No, it was a fucking conspiracy to overtake the region in the Middle East and it was promoted by the neocons even before Bush was in office and is known as the PNAC plan.

But, no one, not even Keith Olbermann, talks about the PNAC plan on fucking television.

And then those asshats wonder why we turned to the internet to get our news and find out what the fuck was really going on!!!

If it weren't for people on forums like DU, I wouldn't have a fucking clue what happened in the White House for the last 8 years - the MSM hardly even criticizes Bush. It's ridiculous.

[DianeK]

38. I would like to actually see it become Meet the Press

again..as opposed to Meet Tim Russert although Russert did an excellent job. I actually remember the Meet the Press of old when they actually had members of the media grilling guests...that was a good format and perhaps they would consider going back to that

[Robyn66]

18. Morning Joe is PAINFUL!

I switch between it and CNN in the morning. I wish there was a better alternative!!!!!!!!!! I wish we could talk KO into doing a morning show too!

[Eurobabe]

19. I agree wholeheartedly, Joe is a major douche bag

it was so nice not having him on the air those couple weeks. :eyes:

[Doctor_J]

20. Why don't you write them , and then

stop watching!!!!

:eyes:

[polichick]

23. I already did that - only watched again while he was gone...

Also told them to get rid of Pat Proud-to-be-a-Racist Buchanan. Apparently the powers that be at msnbc are into throwbacks!

[City Lights]

21. I couldn't agree more!

Too bad they won't. He's one of their stars. :eyes:

I've been joe-'dead-intern'-scarborough free for about three months now, and it feels great! :bounce:

[polichick]

27. Very cool Obama Peace design!!

[kentuck]

24. He's in the running for Tim's old job?

I hear.

[SuperTrouper]

28. it looks like he is out of the running

NYCGirl gave us the link where NBC insiders say that Russert's replacement will not be one "of the cable guys".

[ErinBerin84]

29. I don't think that he killed the intern or aide or whoever she was (as far as I know....)

but didn't he joke about her on the Imus radio show once? Or was he just trying to get a jab in at Bill Clinton? I don't get Joe's humor, so I don't know, but I read that Imus asked why he left Congress and Joe started laughing and said "Because I had sex with an intern" (which people read as a reference to the girl who died. I don't know).

Yeah, it's very uncomfortable watching him demean Mika, because lots of times, he isn't just joking around but gets visibly PISSED and looks kind of...scary? He gets the same look when he tries to argue with Rachel. His eyes become slits and he starts talking in the most condescending voice ever.

[polichick]

31. Exactly - it looks like he could fly into a rage when he feels threatened.

[ErinBerin84]

32. yeah, I give him the benefit of the doubt on the murder and everything

but that look he gets on his face just makes me go "Wow...that's kind of a ...Sleeping With the Enemy look you have on your face, Joe". The last time I watched that movie on tv, I pictured him on the boat, screaming "Laurrraaaaa". Haha. I feel badly for him in that his son has autism and his wife is having pregnancy complications...I am a full advocate of him taking as muchhhhhh time as he needs off from the show to spend time with them.

[City Lights]

33. I just can't shake him telling her, "Don't make me backhand you, Mika"

when he didn't like what she said. It makes me furious that his employment with MSNGE continues. :mad:

[polichick]

34. OMG - he didn't?!

[City Lights]

36. He did. Link below contains transcript and video:

http://mediamatters.org/items/200801300002

[polichick]

37. And yet they keep him on - unfreakinbelievable! I also can't believe that...

Mika would continue to work on the show!

[City Lights]

44. I know. Too bad she didn't take a stand.

Guess she thinks it's just one of those things women need to learn to lie back and enjoy. :puke:

[ErinBerin84]

39. I caught the end of the show today

(the stupid "What did we learn today segment") and Mika said "I learned that George Washington used to have a temper" and Joe said "How come you kept looking at me during that" and he raised his arms in the "backhand" motion and was laughing. Mika was laughing too and it was quick , but it still kind of makes me shudder whenever he does that.

[polichick]

40. The really sad part is women like that enable men like him. Chilling.

[butterfly77]

49. Your last paragraph explains him perfectly...

and this is what really angers me about him they will never put anyone on there who will challenge him to the max. I loved it on the day he left the set because he was angry with Rachel because she matched him point for point.

He really reminds of " Do it live!Do it live! I would love to see him and O'lielly going at it especially on something that they feel strongly about...

[AlinPA]

43. That program is garbage and almost like Fox "News". I can't watch that junk. nt

[Lucky 13]

45. Agree. I miss Mika. Back to Headline News for me.

[Blue_Roses]

46. and take Pat Buchanan with him

:kick: