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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 05:21 PM
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"I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction,"
This is the kind of garbage that an associate at work threw at me, but I quickly pointed to him that his right wing hate source was a MISQUOTE taken out of context

The actual quote from the book is from page 261 and is as follows: "Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific reassurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

It is about Japanese American citizens who were interned during WWII.

An American Citizen IS AN AMERICAN. The American citizens who were Japanese during world war II had property taken away from them, and were put in internment camps

They are obviously very worried about the election, but with the amount of damage that the republicans have done the past 8 years, along with the number of Americans hurting because of that damage, they should be worried. The era of the neocons and PNACers is coming to an end



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jesus_of_suburbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 05:28 PM
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1. Everyone on this board should know the story behind this smear...
I've seen this one too.

If anyone tells you about this smear, tell them the TRUTH behind it.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 05:29 PM
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2. That is why I posted it. The outrageous lies of the republican hate machine is alive and well /nt
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Kber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 05:45 PM
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3. As a Jew with a grandmother who survived in Hitler's Europe
I stand with my Muslim brothers and sisters too.

If McCain is willing to say he wouldn't defend innocent people persecuted for their religion or race, then he's unwilling to defend the constitution and is unfit for office.

Imo

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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 06:12 PM
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4. Exactly /nt
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rufus dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 01:56 PM
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20. I got a few already and go through point by point
defining the errors and lack of critical thinking, since I am just through with these types I always end it with the joke below (found it here on DU)

Why does Laura always get on top with having sex with W?

Because W only knows how to fuck up!
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 02:24 AM
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5. I got the same thing recently.
When I hit "reply to all" with the truth, including page number and full context of the actual passage from Obama's book, I was called "a bigot" by return email.

Still haven't figured out how refuting a lie and telling the truth makes a person a bigot....

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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 03:38 AM
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6. There is no logic. It is so important that Obama started his web site to refute the lies
http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/fightthesmearshome/

There are many things in our favor though

People are actually being hurt because of the bush policies, and mccain is an extension of those policies

Essentially the last eight years have been controlled by the republicans, and even though many Democrats were not particularly courageous, it was the republicans show

Barr and Paul will hurt the mccain run

The Democrats are more united this time then they have ever been. The opposite is the situation with the republicans

It is still important to refute the lies, until the truth is expossed through the MSM






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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 12:46 PM
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7. Agreed.
I included in my "reply to all" that we (Democrats) will NOT sit still for lies and smears, but will refute every one, so they (GOP) would do well to start paying attention to facts and lay off the childish smear tactics.

I haven't heard anything since I asked for the sender's definition of "bigot," stating that, "I've been quite unable to find a definition of "bigoted" that includes "insisting on the truth;" "against lies and slander;" "upholding the 9th Commandment." (I included the last because the original sender is a militaristic Christian fundamentalist/dominionist, as are virtually all of her friends.)

I haven't heard from anyone on that email list since, except for the lone stranger who emailed to thank me. For those who will continue circulating the lies, I suspect that their email lists will get shorter and shorter, excluding anyone who challenges them.

Obama's "Fight the Smears" site is a wonderful tool for us. It will reduce the emailers to a much smaller number of those who insist on remaining shuttered from reality -- probably indistinguishable from BushCorp's rabidly loyal shrinking minority.

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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 12:51 PM
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8. You did a fantastic thing. I thank you for it. n/t
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 01:09 PM
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12. Just doing what needs to be done.
The reinforcement is always nice, though. Thanks. :hi:

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NatBurner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 12:53 PM
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9. u should save that distribution list
and hit 'em with some more random, "bigoted" emails in the future :)
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 01:08 PM
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11. Mmmmm... nah, I'll let it go.
Except for the original sender, the "reply to all" list are strangers to me, and I think spamming them like that could harm rather than help.

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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 12:55 PM
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10. Send it to Obama's fight the smear site. He's looking for this stuff!!
Edited on Wed Jun-18-08 12:55 PM by vaberella
And I'd like to thank you for clarifying. These repubs are out of control.
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Ysabel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 01:13 PM
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13. i only get penis enlargement stuff (thank goodness !? lol)...
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 01:20 PM
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14. Until recently, that's all I ever got too. And I don't even have one...
that's attached to ME, anyway. Mine is attached to my husband.
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Ysabel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 01:31 PM
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17. heh yeah same here (n/t)...
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 01:35 PM
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19. Only on one end.
:evilgrin:
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 01:57 PM
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21. Heh heh. I almost said something like that but chickened out. :) nt
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 01:23 PM
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15. Thanks for the information. I haven't gotten this one yet, but I'm sure
my in-laws will be sending it to me soon. They've sent me every other scum email that's out there. And I always reply all with the facts to debunk the rumors. I've bookmarked this so that when I DO get it, I can reply right away rather than having to search all over for the best response. K&R
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 01:28 PM
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16. BIG K&R and I totally stand beside Obama on this !
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 01:31 PM
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18. This item is covered on Obama's "Fight the Smears" website...
http://www.fightthesmears.com

I hope they continue to update that page.

:hi:
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Psst_Im_Not_Here Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 03:03 PM
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22. Another post added to the bookmark list
I've been bookmarking ammo posts for the coming nastiness on message boards, lists, etc. I have an ever growing arsenal of quotes, information and stats to back up many different items that will come up as we progress into the crazy season. I am ready to be a warrior and I encourage everyone to do the same. I'm not gonna let these crazies take over the boards with misinformation this time. We saw it all last time and I for one plan on many a battle, on the boards, emails etc. The stakes are much too high, I have 2 sons, 14 and 12 and they will forever be in my minds eye as I wage the battle. They will keep me more than motivated!

So, that being said, I introduce an addition to the K&R...a B.

K,R&B for this thread! Let's light 'em up!
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